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Reply #60 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 8:49pm
 
What a great thread this is!

We're all taking the classy piss for a change!

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Reply #61 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:01pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 2:33pm:
Marla wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 2:09pm:
Big Donger wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 2:02pm:
No, Herb, the blacks, Hispanics, Latinos and whites in US jails are there because of the anti-drug laws designed to put them there. 


In other words: capitalism.


That, and the white power racism Herbie identified. Nixon started the war on drugs to manage the black ghettos. The war on drugs (and the drugs themselves) ended the black power movement of the 1970s. Successive law-and-order auctions by politicians have, in some counties, put entire communities behind bars.

Poor white crackers have been collateral damage in this war, and believe it: this is a war. The streets of many American neighbourhoods are patrolled by armoured troop carriers and cops in military uniforms carrying high-powered weapons, all surplus from the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Cops are encouraged to be trigger-happy. They see their job as a war too. The training and policies of many county police departments enforce a shoot-first-ask-questions-later policy, and this isn't coming from the communist party or the ACLU, it's coming from ex-cops themselves.

It should come as no surprise that, along with its incarceration rate, the US has the highest rate of shootings by police in the developed world. It should also be no surprise who those targets are.

Why do blacks insist on breaking the law in such disproportianatly huge numbers? Why not be law abiding? It is not hard or humiliating.
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Reply #62 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:05pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 11:26am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:53am:
I don't know why people bother fact checking Trump.

His supporters don't care and to them, the work done in fact checking only makes you come off as an intellectual nerd pushing a bias agenda (to Trump supporters) which only reinforces their belief in Trump's lies.


What's more worrying, perhaps, is the Republicans just ignoring Trump and getting on with business. This is already happening, particularly as Pence travels around the world smoothing things over with foreign leaders.

Some Republicans are a real worry, and as competent and sensible as Pence presents, I'd include his Bible Belt bent.

Trump is an urban liberal by nature. He's had to reverse many of his views to get through the Republican primaries. He's gone from soft on drugs to hard on drugs, pro-choice to pro-life, for sensible gun laws to against any reform whatsoever, advocating universal health care to smashing Obamacare. Trump's liberal bent has been twisted to fit the Republican agenda.

As for the "Establishment", Trump's staffed his administration with the most corporate-friendly Establishment Republicans he could find. He'll hand policy over to the big lobbyists as all Democrats and Republicans do - as the Bushes, Clinton and Obama did. Junk food, the pharmaceutical industry, weapons manufacturers, fossil fuels, the banks and hedge funds will continue to write their own rules, no matter what Trump says about making Amerika great again.

As Trump carries on about returning government to the people, the Republicans will continue to quietly cede power to their friends. When they retire from politics, they'll continue to be given jobs as highly-paid lobbyists. Trump's already started the process, demanding that for every new regulation proposed, two regulations be scrapped.

Wall Street and the banks - those who created the GFC - are loving it. They'll happily nod and chuckle over Trump's anti-globalist rhetoric. Corporate globalization is based in the US. With the US essentially running the World Trade Organization, headquartering the US patent office and the Therapeutic Drugs Administration, globalization is an Amerikan phenomenon.

Sure, American workers and consumers might not benefit from this; the corporations do. Sure, the US tax department might not benefit from this, the corporations do. And as Trump carries on about acting in the interest of America, his administration, the Congress, the Senate and all the federal agencies quietly get on with the business of lining the "globalists" pockets.

Meanwhile, Trump will carry on correcting the public record on everything from the size of his election win and his inauguration crowd to how he doesn't wear a wig. The Establishment, while hesitant at first, now know they've never had it so good.

Ten-hut... There's an adult on deck.
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Re: Fact check on Trump's Congress speech
Reply #63 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:10pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Big Donger wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 11:26am:
[quote author=sadkangaroo link=1488373094/19#19 date=1488412412]I don't know why people bother fact checking Trump.

His supporters don't care and to them, the work done in fact checking only makes you come off as an intellectual nerd pushing a bias agenda (to Trump supporters) which only reinforces their belief in Trump's lies.


What's more worrying, perhaps, is the Republicans just ignoring Trump and getting on with business. This is already happening, particularly as Pence travels around the world smoothing things over with foreign leaders.

Some Republicans are a real worry, and as competent and sensible as Pence presents, I'd include his Bible Belt bent.

Trump is an urban liberal by nature. He's had to reverse many of his views to get through the Republican primaries. He's gone from soft on drugs to hard on drugs, pro-choice to pro-life, for sensible gun laws to against any reform whatsoever, advocating universal health care to smashing Obamacare. Trump's liberal bent has been twisted to fit the Republican agenda.

As for the "Establishment", Trump's staffed his administration with the most corporate-friendly Establishment Republicans he could find. He'll hand policy over to the big lobbyists as all Democrats and Republicans do - as the Bushes, Clinton and Obama did. Junk food, the pharmaceutical industry, weapons manufacturers, fossil fuels, the banks and hedge funds will continue to write their own rules, no matter what Trump says about making Amerika great again.

As Trump carries on about returning government to the people, the Republicans will continue to quietly cede power to their friends. When they retire from politics, they'll continue to be given jobs as highly-paid lobbyists. Trump's already started the process, demanding that for every new regulation proposed, two regulations be scrapped.






Bollocks on deck as always,

President Donald Trump on Saturday put restrictions on the kind of lucrative lobbying gigs his White House aides and other administration officials can accept after they leave government.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-29/trump-puts-lobbying-restriction-on-adminis...
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Reply #64 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:19pm
 
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Reply #65 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:26pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:19pm:


I was actually born in Kenya, says Obama


BARACK Obama has admitted he was born in Kenya and ‘you can all go fcvk yourselves’.

At a White House press conference, the soon to be former president confirmed he had thoroughly enjoyed his time in office and had been lying about his birth certificate all along.

He said: “Job done. Got to live here for eight years. It is a seriously nice place. I also had a huge plane and a helicopter and I could play golf whenever I wanted.”

He added: “Anyway, enjoy this total shitfest. I’m going to become a professor, or head of some big UN thing.”

President Obama then laughed and went back to watching a marathon session of Salvage Hunters and looking at a brochure for ‘one of those massive Audis’.

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Reply #66 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:26pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:19pm:


I was actually born in Kenya, says Obama


BARACK Obama has admitted he was born in Kenya and ‘you can all go fcvk yourselves’.

At a White House press conference, the soon to be former president confirmed he had thoroughly enjoyed his time in office and had been lying about his birth certificate all along.

He said: “Job done. Got to live here for eight years. It is a seriously nice place. I also had a huge plane and a helicopter and I could play golf whenever I wanted.”

He added: “Anyway, enjoy this total shitfest. I’m going to become a professor, or head of some big UN thing.”

President Obama then laughed and went back to watching a marathon session of Salvage Hunters and looking at a brochure for ‘one of those massive Audis’.

Grin Grin Grin

Herbert... Here's another beaut for that psych ward you were talking about...

Teach him the way... Get him a spot in that home.
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Reply #67 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 10:13pm
 
No no, North, the old boy already has a bed - and a life-support machine. He hasn't been conscious for months.

He wrote these posts a few years back.

Memories.
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Reply #68 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 10:48pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 10:13pm:
No no, North, the old boy already has a bed - and a life-support machine. He hasn't been conscious for months.

He wrote these posts a few years back.

Memories.

So... He's... what?... Projecting himself from his ward bed like... Patrick?

(I knew that film was a documentary)...

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Reply #69 - Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:17am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:01pm:
Why do blacks insist on breaking the law in such disproportianatly huge numbers? Why not be law abiding? It is not hard or humiliating.



Sociology, not race - is the answer.

The social dynamics of black enclaves has its own cultural imperatives and demands which if ignored and rejected can see the individual and his family being demonised and threatened for not subscribing to the sub-community gang's 'code'.

It's just the same with Whites in parts of the UK. Council housing estates used to be notorious for gang criminality and intimidation of which there have been several movies made on this theme - one of the most haunting was the 1958 'Violent Playground' with Stanley Baker and David McCallum.


Committing a crime was a rite of passage in these places, and gave you credibility as one of the tribe.




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Reply #70 - Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:22am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Big Donger wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 10:13pm:
No no, North, the old boy already has a bed - and a life-support machine. He hasn't been conscious for months.

He wrote these posts a few years back.

Memories.

So... He's... what?... Projecting himself from his ward bed like... Patrick?

(I knew that film was a documentary)...


Grin Grin Grin

Be careful, I'm also psycho-kinetic and can move heavy furniture to slam into your feeble body when you least expect it.
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Reply #71 - Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:23am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:17am:
Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:01pm:
Why do blacks insist on breaking the law in such disproportianatly huge numbers? Why not be law abiding? It is not hard or humiliating.



Sociology, not race - is the answer.

The social dynamics of black enclaves has its own cultural imperatives and demands which if ignored and rejected can see the individual and his family being demonised and threatened for not subscribing to the sub-community gang's 'code'.


Very sociological of you, Herbie. Black enclaves don't have a lot of jobs or opportunities, so the individual and his family rely on one of three things:

1. Drugs
2. Sport
3. Rap music

If you want to get out of the ghetto, these are your options.

Economics 101, innit.
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Reply #72 - Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:24am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:17am:
Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:01pm:
Why do blacks insist on breaking the law in such disproportianatly huge numbers? Why not be law abiding? It is not hard or humiliating.



Sociology, not race - is the answer.

The social dynamics of black enclaves has its own cultural imperatives and demands which if ignored and rejected can see the individual and his family being demonised and threatened for not subscribing to the sub-community gang's 'code'.

It's just the same with Whites in parts of the UK. Council housing estates used to be notorious for gang criminality and intimidation of which there have been several movies made on this theme - one of the most haunting was the 1958 'Violent Playground' with Stanley Baker and David McCallum.


Committing a crime was a rite of passage in these places, and gave you credibility as one of the tribe.







I bet it would all stop if we just chucked money at them... lets give all these poor people loads of money...

we know chucking money at climate change will fix it....dont we???>..so why wouldnt it fix this problem...

these poor people should get double everything...

lets try it see how it goes..
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Reply #73 - Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:25am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Big Donger wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 10:13pm:
No no, North, the old boy already has a bed - and a life-support machine. He hasn't been conscious for months.

He wrote these posts a few years back.

Memories.

So... He's... what?... Projecting himself from his ward bed like... Patrick?

(I knew that film was a documentary)...



We're waiting to get the old boy into the freezer. We might bring him round some time in the future.

Or not.
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Reply #74 - Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:26am
 
Big Donger wrote on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:23am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 8:17am:
Frank wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:01pm:
Why do blacks insist on breaking the law in such disproportianatly huge numbers? Why not be law abiding? It is not hard or humiliating.



Sociology, not race - is the answer.

The social dynamics of black enclaves has its own cultural imperatives and demands which if ignored and rejected can see the individual and his family being demonised and threatened for not subscribing to the sub-community gang's 'code'.


Very sociological of you, Herbie. Black enclaves don't have a lot of jobs or opportunities, so the individual and his family rely on one of three things:

1. Drugs
2. Sport
3. Rap music

If you want to get out of the ghetto, these are your options.

Economics 101, innit.



not at all double their welfare double everything..

it will fix everything....


trust me!


empty jails will help pay for it.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


just sayin!
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