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Re: The Truth About Trump
Reply #15 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 8:59am
 
Big Donger wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 8:42am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 6:38am:
so proud of Donald.

as you say, he means to destroy the power in washington, thereby putting the power back in the hands of the strong, powerful, dynamic and entrepreneurial american people.

i suppose washington will suffer
the washington hangers-on will suffer
the intellectual elite will be side-lined
those sucking on washingtons titties will be weaned off and have a little sook.

all in all, its just the most brilliant news i have ever heard .


Oh, I know. Mr Trump wants to cut health, education and welfare to increase the military.

One for the people, eh?

Quote:
US President Donald Trump has said he is seeking a "historic increase" in military spending of more than 9 per cent to be funded by cuts elsewhere in government.

Mr Trump will seek to boost Pentagon spending by $US54 billion ($70 billion) in his first budget proposal and slash the same amount from non-defence spending, including a large reduction in foreign aid, a White House budget official said.

The President does not have the final say on federal spending.

His plan to ramp up military spending is part of a budget proposal to Congress, which, while it is controlled by his fellow Republicans, will not necessarily follow his plans.

Mr Trump told state governors at the White House that his budget plan included a "historic increase in defence spending to rebuild the depleted military of the United States of America".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-28/trump-seeks-historic-increase-in-us-defens...



K

you would like trump to be a touchy feely sensitive type of guy.   you seem to get upset because trump pulls off a few dodgy deals, is a bit sly, is "rat cunning"
you would prefer him to be a bit of a plodder, a bit more methodical and beige, a bit like a highly paid 'civil servant", a bit cautious and more prone to naval gazing and consultation.

i admit, he is not your stereotypical politician.

But we must ask oursleves , whats best for "america". whats best for the "american family".

i would like you to go read the "art of war" and robert greens "48 laws of power".

If trump is sneaky, devious , cunning, wheels and deals and gets ahead by whatever means neccessary, then thats simply the best way to "play the game".

other nations are very "machievelian" and only interested in advancing their own position, by whatever means neccessary.  if trump seeks to throw out the rule book, at least this now puts america on an equal footing.

can you imagine the outcry if the USA started building islands in the south china sea and weaponising them. yet we accept this from the chinese because the chinese are just, well, pretty ruthless.

And if trump is a bit ruthless and cunning and out foxes them, then he is using all those business skills to "beat them at their own game"

he is far more likely to be successful at this then a career civil servant like Obama or a career intellectual like Hilary.

and , in the end, success is what the american people are used to and what they vibe with. they adore a winner and will not tolerate a loser
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Re: The Truth About Trump
Reply #16 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 12:25pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 8:59am:
K

you would like trump to be a touchy feely sensitive type of guy. 


Not at all, A. The American people would like Mr Trump to be a touchy feely kind of guy. Remember? He was going to bring government back to the people. He was going to smash the Establishment. He was going to make Amerika great again.

He's now saying he wants to cut funding to the American people and give it to the Pentagon Establishment. Just think, he wants to end nearly universal health care and pass the savings onto the biggest military power in history.

During the erection, Mr Trump claimed that his opponent was a war monger. He said she'd build up the US military and start invading other countries. Mr Trump said he was all about peace, about keeping Amerika out of the world's problems. He claimed he was going to be an isolationist.

Now I don't know about you, but if I was the American people, I'd feel a little cheated.

And being an Australian, I feel a little threatened. Mr Trump has questioned treaties like NATO and the ANZUS alliance, saying "all bets are off." He's suggested an alliance with Russia, neither a friend of Australia or our trading partners. When I look at the world, I'm not asking myself what's best for "America", I'm asking what's best for Australia.

And when I'm wondering what's best for the "American family", I've never considered the expansion of the Military Industrial Complex funded by cuts to social programs to be in its interest at all.

What does Robert Green's 48 Laws of power have to say about that?

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Reply #17 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 4:38pm
 
America needs to re-establish unchallenged technological superiority as a precondition for convincing Russia and China to behave responsibly. We should speak softly and carry a big stick. The problem is the stick. America's edge has eroded alarmingly during the past twenty years. The temptation is to shout shrilly and wave a small stick. That will get us nowhere].

Russia, China and America never will be friends; at best they will be peaceful competitors rather than warlike adversaries. To maintain the former rather than the latter circumstance is the proper goal of American policy.

It would be dangerous for America to pursue the Wilsonian (and neo-conservative) vision of internal transformation of Russia and China, with the goal of turning them into American-style democracies.

The second-most dangerous thing America could do would be to abandon the world stage. World stability depends on a strong America, that is, an America that is economically vibrant and technologically superior,




Read the rest here https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/01/09/america-should-speak-softly-and-carry-a-...
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Reply #18 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 4:48pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
America needs to re-establish unchallenged technological superiority as a precondition for convincing Russia and China to behave responsibly. We should speak softly and carry a big stick. The problem is the stick. America's edge has eroded alarmingly during the past twenty years. The temptation is to shout shrilly and wave a small stick. That will get us nowhere].

Russia, China and America never will be friends; at best they will be peaceful competitors rather than warlike adversaries. To maintain the former rather than the latter circumstance is the proper goal of American policy.

It would be dangerous for America to pursue the Wilsonian (and neo-conservative) vision of internal transformation of Russia and China, with the goal of turning them into American-style democracies.

The second-most dangerous thing America could do would be to abandon the world stage. World stability depends on a strong America, that is, an America that is economically vibrant and technologically superior,




Read the rest here https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/01/09/america-should-speak-softly-and-carry-a-...


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Reply #19 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 3:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
America needs to re-establish unchallenged technological superiority as a precondition for convincing Russia and China to behave responsibly. We should speak softly and carry a big stick. The problem is the stick. America's edge has eroded alarmingly during the past twenty years. The temptation is to shout shrilly and wave a small stick. That will get us nowhere].

Russia, China and America never will be friends; at best they will be peaceful competitors rather than warlike adversaries. To maintain the former rather than the latter circumstance is the proper goal of American policy.

It would be dangerous for America to pursue the Wilsonian (and neo-conservative) vision of internal transformation of Russia and China, with the goal of turning them into American-style democracies.

The second-most dangerous thing America could do would be to abandon the world stage. World stability depends on a strong America, that is, an America that is economically vibrant and technologically superior,




Read the rest here https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/01/09/america-should-speak-softly-and-carry-a-...



America has always has and retains significant military superiority over Russia. To pretend otherwise is simply wrong. The russian military is poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly motivated. The last generation of Russian ICBMs were so unreliable that half of them would never fly and the other half couldnt find the right country, nevermind the right target.  Maybe NOW they can find the right country, but that's about it.
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Re: The Truth About Trump
Reply #20 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 8:01am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 3:45pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
America needs to re-establish unchallenged technological superiority as a precondition for convincing Russia and China to behave responsibly. We should speak softly and carry a big stick. The problem is the stick. America's edge has eroded alarmingly during the past twenty years. The temptation is to shout shrilly and wave a small stick. That will get us nowhere].

Russia, China and America never will be friends; at best they will be peaceful competitors rather than warlike adversaries. To maintain the former rather than the latter circumstance is the proper goal of American policy.

It would be dangerous for America to pursue the Wilsonian (and neo-conservative) vision of internal transformation of Russia and China, with the goal of turning them into American-style democracies.

The second-most dangerous thing America could do would be to abandon the world stage. World stability depends on a strong America, that is, an America that is economically vibrant and technologically superior,


Read the rest here https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/01/09/america-should-speak-softly-and-carry-a-...



America has always has and retains significant military superiority over Russia. To pretend otherwise is simply wrong. The russian military is poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly motivated. The last generation of Russian ICBMs were so unreliable that half of them would never fly and the other half couldnt find the right country, nevermind the right target.  Maybe NOW they can find the right country, but that's about it.


Russia is still big and strong enough to make trouble in Europe. China is the new global competitor with hegmonic ambitions in Asia and beyond.

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Reply #21 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 8:05am
 
YOU  WANT THE TRUTH PEC?  YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH
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Reply #22 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 11:39am
 

Karnal nails it again:

What's more worrying, perhaps, is the Republicans just ignoring Trump and getting on with business. This is already happening, particularly as Pence travels around the world smoothing things over with foreign leaders.

Some Republicans are a real worry, and as competent and sensible as Pence presents, I'd include his Bible Belt bent.

Trump is an urban liberal by nature. He's had to reverse many of his views to get through the Republican primaries. He's gone from soft on drugs to hard on drugs, pro-choice to pro-life, for sensible gun laws to against any reform whatsoever, advocating universal health care to smashing Obamacare. Trump's liberal bent has been twisted to fit the Republican agenda.

As for the "Establishment", Trump's staffed his administration with the most corporate-friendly Establishment Republicans he could find. He'll hand policy over to the big lobbyists as all Democrats and Republicans do - as the Bushes, Clinton and Obama did. Junk food, the pharmaceutical industry, weapons manufacturers, fossil fuels, the banks and hedge funds will continue to write their own rules, no matter what Trump says about making Amerika great again.

As Trump carries on about returning government to the people, the Republicans will continue to quietly cede power to their friends. When they retire from politics, they'll continue to be given jobs as highly-paid lobbyists. Trump's already started the process, demanding that for every new regulation proposed, two regulations be scrapped.

Wall Street and the banks - those who created the GFC - are loving it. They'll happily nod and chuckle over Trump's anti-globalist rhetoric. Corporate globalization is based in the US. With the US essentially running the World Trade Organization, headquartering the US patent office and the Therapeutic Drugs Administration, globalization is an Amerikan phenomenon.

Sure, American workers and consumers might not benefit from this; the corporations do. Sure, the US tax department might not benefit from this, the corporations do. And as Trump carries on about acting in the interest of America, his administration, the Congress, the Senate and all the federal agencies quietly get on with the business of lining the "globalists" pockets.

Meanwhile, Trump will carry on correcting the public record on everything from the size of his election win and his inauguration crowd to how he doesn't wear a wig. The Establishment, while hesitant at first, now know they've never had it so good.


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