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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	This is why InfoWars is not a source Feb 24^th, 2017 at 11:02am
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #1 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 11:37am It is amazing that ANYONE swallows his garbage. Sadly, it is in indictment on just how many truly stupid people are around.
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #2 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 12:03pm Reddit users are not a source either
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20366 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #3 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 1:25pm Nor Snopes and many others.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #4 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 2:47pm lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 1:25pm: Nor Snopes and many others. Wouldnt it have been easier to simply agree that Infowars is garbage, lee-trumpoid? You just refuse to criticise the orange-dictator.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #5 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 2:52pm Plus I'd argue Snopes is believable since they either find sources and confirm or deny myth or so we have no sources and leave it uncofrimed
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #6 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 3:53pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 2:52pm: Plus I'd argue Snopes is believable since they either find sources and confirm or deny myth or so we have no sources and leave it uncofrimed Lee-trumpoid needs to deflect from infowars and so he brings in snopes despite its very good reputation.
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Reply #7 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 4:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 2:52pm:

Plus I'd argue Snopes is believable since they either find sources and confirm or deny myth or so we have no sources and leave it uncofrimed

Lee-trumpoid needs to deflect from infowars and so he brings in snopes despite its very good reputation.

perhaps you can point to where I have used Infowars, so that i would need to deflect. Wink

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Reply #8 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 7:43pm

lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 3:53pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 2:52pm:

Plus I'd argue Snopes is believable since they either find sources and confirm or deny myth or so we have no sources and leave it uncofrimed

Lee-trumpoid needs to deflect from infowars and so he brings in snopes despite its very good reputation.

perhaps you can point to where I have used Infowars, so that i would need to deflect. Wink

you deflected in classic trump-style, firstly by lying (snopes is a credible source) and secondly, by nor repudiated a clearly fake news site.

you are trumpoid from top to bottom.

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Reply #9 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 9:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

you deflected in classic trump-style,

So you have nothing. Thank you.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

firstly by lying (snopes is a credible source)

A matter of opinion.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

and secondly, by nor repudiated a clearly fake news site.

Is that supposed to make sense?

Cheesy

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #10 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 10:30pm lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 1:25pm: Nor Snopes and many others. You are comparing Snopes to InfoWars? So laf
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20366 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #11 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 10:32pm AiA wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 10:30pm: lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 1:25pm: Nor Snopes and many others. You are comparing Snopes to InfoWars? So laf And many others.
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #12 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 10:36pm lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 10:32pm: AiA wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 10:30pm: lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 1:25pm: Nor Snopes and many others. You are comparing Snopes to InfoWars? So laf And many others. So laf
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22701 A cat with a view	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #13 - Feb 24^th, 2017 at 10:43pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2017 at 11:02am: Stephen [POST TRUTH] Colbert eh ? Stephen Colbert makes an appearance in this YT too ! -------- > When People Laughed At The Idea Of Trump Actually Being Elected President! [Compilation] https://youtu.be/zT0Rjc6jKCg
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Reply #14 - Feb 25^th, 2017 at 8:22am

Yadda, Trump lies. Trump lies all the time. Trump lies when there is no need to do so. Trump is a conspiracy theorist. He believe vaccines cause austim. He believes the Apollo missions were faked and he thinks the earth is flat.

It is time for you to start recognising that Trump is a sick, damaged and dangerous person.

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Reply #15 - Feb 25^th, 2017 at 11:29am

Re Snopes- perhaps you remember this?-

"On 4 February 2017, the British tabloid Mail on Sunday (and the Daily Mail‘s online site) published an article by David Rose — a longtime proponent of climate change conspiracy theories whose analyses the scientific community widely regards as flawed and deceptive — alleging that scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) used misleading data in order to rush publication of a groundbreaking climate study and thereby “dupe” world leaders:"

http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/08/noaa-scientists-climate-change-data/

In the Mail on Sunday -

"This newspaper has learnt that NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend.

The land temperature dataset used by the study was afflicted by devastating bugs in its software that rendered its findings ‘unstable’."

"A final, approved version has still not been issued."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manip...

Now nowhere in the Snopes piece does it address the fact that both the land and and sea datasets are unusable. Or that both need replacing. Instead they insist it was a mere oversight that the data wasn't archived. It makes no difference if the data wasn't archived if both datasets are faulty.

You would think that Snopes would address this very basic issue.

As for the Karl et al 2015 paper it has a self-admitted significance of 0.1. A good significance is 0.01, a reasonable one is 0.05. 0.1 is crap.

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Reply #16 - Feb 25^th, 2017 at 11:33am

lee wrote on Feb 25^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

Re Snopes- perhaps you remember this?-

"On 4 February 2017, the British tabloid Mail on Sunday (and the Daily Mail‘s online site) published an article by David Rose — a longtime proponent of climate change conspiracy theories whose analyses the scientific community widely regards as flawed and deceptive — alleging that scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) used misleading data in order to rush publication of a groundbreaking climate study and thereby “dupe” world leaders:"

http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/08/noaa-scientists-climate-change-data/

In the Mail on Sunday -

"This newspaper has learnt that NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend.

The land temperature dataset used by the study was afflicted by devastating bugs in its software that rendered its findings ‘unstable’."

"A final, approved version has still not been issued."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manip...

Now nowhere in the Snopes piece does it address the fact that both the land and and sea datasets are unusable. Or that both need replacing. Instead they insist it was a mere oversight that the data wasn't archived. It makes no difference if the data wasn't archived if both datasets are faulty.

You would think that Snopes would address this very basic issue.

As for the Karl et al 2015 paper it has a self-admitted significance of 0.1. A good significance is 0.01, a reasonable one is 0.05. 0.1 s crap.

Remember the Fish People? We are screwed people!

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #17 - Feb 25^th, 2017 at 4:55pm and lee wants to include Snopes in with the infowars garbage? WHAT ARE YOU???
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20366 Gender:	Re: This is why InfoWars is not a source Reply #18 - Feb 25^th, 2017 at 8:20pm longweekend58 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2017 at 4:55pm: and lee wants to include Snopes in with the infowars garbage? WHAT ARE YOU??? Perhaps you could critique what Snopes wrote about Bates and Karl.
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