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"..for nature cannot be fooled."
Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 11:37am

Inevitably however, in the world of science at least, those who seek to employ misdirection and disinformation as a means to further their own ideological ends are doomed to eventual failure. In the closing paragraph to his “Personal
observations on the reliability of the Shuttle”, the late, great Richard Feynman used a phrase that should be seared into the consciousness of anyone writing about climate science, especially those who are economical with the truth…

For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

Remember that final phrase – “nature cannot be fooled”, even if vast numbers of voters can be!

source: http://greatwhitecon.info/2016/03/how-to-make-a-complete-rss-of-yourself/

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21678 Gender:	Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled." Reply #1 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 4:13pm TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 11:37am: For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Yep. But humans can infer all kinds of thing from models and statistics. Not necessarily factual.
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Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Reply #2 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 5:52pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 11:37am:

Inevitably however, in the world of science at least, those who seek to employ misdirection and disinformation as a means to further their own ideological ends are doomed to eventual failure. In the closing paragraph to his “Personal
observations on the reliability of the Shuttle”, the late, great Richard Feynman used a phrase that should be seared into the consciousness of anyone writing about climate science, especially those who are economical with the truth…

For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

Remember that final phrase – “nature cannot be fooled”, even if vast numbers of voters can be!

source: http://greatwhitecon.info/2016/03/how-to-make-a-complete-rss-of-yourself/

Richard Feynman a great physicist and teacher.

Since you like him DRAH, listen to the video below, its only 60 seconds I'm sure your attention span will just be able to handle it.

NOW listen GOOD.................!!!!!

Warming by the end of this century

IPCC computer models projected warming……… +2.78° C / Century

Observations the last 25 years………………………….. +1.01° C / Century

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Reply #3 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 5:55pm

lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 4:13pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 11:37am:

For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

Yep. But humans can infer all kinds of thing from models and statistics. Wink

Not necessarily factual.

Lol, that's a statement that will never go away Roll Eyes

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21678 Gender:	Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled." Reply #4 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:06pm TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 5:55pm: Lol, that's a statement that will never go away A variation on a theme. Quote: The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell
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Reply #5 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:09pm

Or

"Statistics are supposed to make something easier to understand but when used in a misleading fashion can trick the casual observer into believing something other than what the data shows. That is, a misuse of statistics occurs when a statistical argument asserts a falsehood. In some cases, the misuse may be accidental. In others, it is purposeful and for the gain of the perpetrator. When the statistical reason involved is false or misapplied, this constitutes a statistical fallacy.

The false statistics trap can be quite damaging to the quest for knowledge. For example, in medical science, correcting a falsehood may take decades and cost lives.

Misuses can be easy to fall into. Professional scientists, even mathematicians and professional statisticians, can be fooled by even some simple methods, even if they are careful to check everything. Scientists have been known to fool themselves with statistics due to lack of knowledge of probability theory and lack of standardization of their tests."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_statistics

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled." Reply #6 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm ajax and lee, sitting in a tree ajax and lee, sitting in a tree ajax and lee, sitting in a tree ajax and lee, sitting in a tree ajax and lee, sitting in a tree i ajax and lee, sitting in a tree
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21678 Gender:	Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled." Reply #7 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm Yes. We know well when you are out of your depth.
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled." Reply #8 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:27pm lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm: Yes. We know well when you are out of your depth. What, because you said something about lies, damned lies and statistics? Wow- you must be on mega bucks bra
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Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled."
Reply #9 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 7:00pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:27pm:

lee wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm:

Yes. We know well when you are out of your depth.

What, because you said something about lies, damned lies and statistics? Wow- you must be on mega bucks bra Grin

Nope. When your reply was -

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

ajax and lee, sitting in a tree Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: "..for nature cannot be fooled." Reply #10 - Feb 22^nd, 2017 at 7:02pm only lee
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