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Re: ‘DESTABILIZATION CAMPAIGN’ Against Team Trump
Reply #45 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:58am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:04am:
the destabilisation campaign started when trump announced he was running as a candidate. it didn't work back then and it won't work now.



LOL,


Anyone reading the comments of , say, pecca , would know that he is a confirmed and self - admitted liar.
So if a liar says bad things about Trump, that makes Trmp go up in a sane persons estimation.

the left are trumps best friends.

i think people like gweg are on his pay roll


True, Aquascoot. Trump's worst friends are those Republicans in congress and the senate - people like John McCain, who has a career's experience in defence, foreign policy and national security.

These Republicans want to see Trump come to his senses, but if he doesn't, will act in the interests of the US. If Trump is found to be acting in his own interests alone, he won't be supported by his party. If he's found to be acting on behalf of Putin, or the white supremacists, or his own business, they'll fight Trump hard. Many are already circling their wagons.
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Reply #46 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:01am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 7:57am:
I'm sure that I'm not alone in wanting to understand this phenomenon.

Thanks


I'd like to believe you're interested in understanding, but past experience tells me thats not the case, so I'm not going to waste much breath.  Put it this way:

Quote:
"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." The term redpill refers to a human that is aware of the true nature of the Matrix.


Blue pill = mainstream/matrix
Red pill = Trump

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And this is why it's a waste of breath:

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'You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.'


I wish you bliss in your virtual reality world.
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Re: ‘DESTABILIZATION CAMPAIGN’ Against Team Trump
Reply #47 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:14am
 
Big Donger wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:04am:
the destabilisation campaign started when trump announced he was running as a candidate. it didn't work back then and it won't work now.



LOL,


Anyone reading the comments of , say, pecca , would know that he is a confirmed and self - admitted liar.
So if a liar says bad things about Trump, that makes Trmp go up in a sane persons estimation.

the left are trumps best friends.

i think people like gweg are on his pay roll


True, Aquascoot. Trump's worst friends are those Republicans in congress and the senate - people like John McCain, who has a career's experience in defence, foreign policy and national security.

These Republicans want to see Trump come to his senses, but if he doesn't, will act in the interests of the US. If Trump is found to be acting in his own interests alone, he won't be supported by his party. If he's found to be acting on behalf of Putin, or the white supremacists, or his own business, they'll fight Trump hard. Many are already circling their wagons.



those republicans, of whom you speak, are still part of the mainstream narrative, the socially conditioning forces for groupthink.
everyone acts out of self interest.
they have their little pension plans and their mistresses and their yachts just like trump.

And they dont want anyone messing with the "status quo".

Now Trump has gone to a paradigm of personal development that is above these scrubby citizens.

he hwas overdosed on mistresses and yachts and the good life and realised it didnt fulfil him and now he has gone into "contribution".

he wants to "make america great" he says , and i actually believe him.

if he just wants to be a fat pedo as the left paint him, he would stay in the shadows.

so its not that...it cant be.

i would back his motives as more ethical then some career republican who is cosy in the current status quo.

only the superior man embraces chaos, embraces change, tears up the rule book .

all entrepreneurs know that you have to bend or break the rules to create something different (something better).
if you dont, there can be no progress.

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Reply #48 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:24am
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:14am:
he wants to "make america great" he says , and i actually believe him.





GOod idea, but how is he going to do it?
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Reply #49 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:50pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:14am:
Big Donger wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:04am:
the destabilisation campaign started when trump announced he was running as a candidate. it didn't work back then and it won't work now.



LOL,


Anyone reading the comments of , say, pecca , would know that he is a confirmed and self - admitted liar.
So if a liar says bad things about Trump, that makes Trmp go up in a sane persons estimation.

the left are trumps best friends.

i think people like gweg are on his pay roll


True, Aquascoot. Trump's worst friends are those Republicans in congress and the senate - people like John McCain, who has a career's experience in defence, foreign policy and national security.

These Republicans want to see Trump come to his senses, but if he doesn't, will act in the interests of the US. If Trump is found to be acting in his own interests alone, he won't be supported by his party. If he's found to be acting on behalf of Putin, or the white supremacists, or his own business, they'll fight Trump hard. Many are already circling their wagons.



those republicans, of whom you speak, are still part of the mainstream narrative, the socially conditioning forces for groupthink.
everyone acts out of self interest.
they have their little pension plans and their mistresses and their yachts just like trump.

And they dont want anyone messing with the "status quo".

Now Trump has gone to a paradigm of personal development that is above these scrubby citizens.

he hwas overdosed on mistresses and yachts and the good life and realised it didnt fulfil him and now he has gone into "contribution".

he wants to "make america great" he says , and i actually believe him.

if he just wants to be a fat pedo as the left paint him, he would stay in the shadows.

so its not that...it cant be.

i would back his motives as more ethical then some career republican who is cosy in the current status quo.

only the superior man embraces chaos, embraces change, tears up the rule book .

all entrepreneurs know that you have to bend or break the rules to create something different (something better).
if you dont, there can be no progress.



Alas, dear, those Republicans are well out of the mainstream narrative, which focuses on silly ideological point-scoring between left and right. The mainstream narrative - the one that sells newspapers and TV and radio and generates readers online - is drama: political intrigue, security threats, terrorism, but most importantly, conflict. Conflict, after all, is the essence of drama.

And this is why Trump has done so well. He understands drama. He was, remember, the star of a reality TV show.

The Establishment does not work this way. It usually shuns the limelight. The Establishment is motivated by continuity, stability, and order. This is not a left/right thing, which Trump understands all too well. He has donated and campaigned for both Democrats and Republicans as this is how you do business. Trump, you see, is the Establishment. His real estate business requires stability and order, but this conflicts with his celebrity business - Trump's "branding" - which requires controversy and drama to compete for airtime. An interesting irony.

As head of state, the US presidency is the very embodiment of the Establishment. It's not a role for wreckers. There are clear limits on its powers, as Trump's disastrous attempt to ban Muslims has shown. This is not about left and right, but the separation of powers - the constitution, which Trump is sworn to uphold.

The Republican Establishment will go along with Trump only for as long as this is in their interests to do. They can't possibly support a president who fights the Establishment. They understand Trump's rhetoric to be merely populist, calculated to capture a certain segment of the electorate. In other words, they think he's all bluff.

But If Trump goes against their interests, they'll turn. They will have to - they won't get funded and re-elected if they don't.

Trump understands this. He's good at reading people's motives. For the most part, his fighting words are indeed all bluff - this is, at least, what his kids have indicated. And as Trump himself has shown, he believes he merely needs to give the appearance of following through on his ridiculous election promises. You know, an attempt to ban people from a handful of Muslim countries, build a Mexican fence, fake a Mexican payment plan, and on and on.

But Trump is now finding that even symbolic gestures are impossible to achieve within the complex difusion of power in the US. Remember this, Aquascoot, it's important. We warned of this prior to Trump's election, and the reality of the presidency - a job Trump's always said he'll leave for others - has dawned upon him.

The role of president is not a job for a fighter, it's a job for those who bring people together.


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Reply #50 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:56pm
 
... wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:01am:
I wish you bliss in your virtual reality world.


I appreciate the response.

So, the short version is, you think Trump is the answer to all our (well, the US) problems, or is it that only the truth can come from him?

I am actually genuinely interested in understanding what you cryptic movie quote reponse to such an important question actually means.

I really would like to know why Trump keeps getting such special treatment. 

Clearly there must be a reason why any and all ways that his opponents are bad don't apply to him.  He must be bringing something to the table in the mind of his supporters to justify the hypocrisy, I just want to know what that is.

It has to be more than him simply being "anti-establishment" in their minds.
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Reply #51 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:03pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:04am:
the destabilisation campaign started when trump announced he was running as a candidate. it didn't work back then and it won't work now.



LOL,


Anyone reading the comments of , say, pecca , would know that he is a confirmed and self - admitted liar.
So if a liar says bad things about Trump, that makes Trmp go up in a sane persons estimation.

the left are trumps best friends.

i think people like gweg are on his pay roll


Trump is a self-confessed sexual predator. Fact.

Trump doesn't pay his taxes. Fact.

Trump doesn't pay his contractors. Fact.

Trump didn't earn his first millions. Fact.

Trump owes billions to hundreds of creditors. Fact.

Trump is an alleged child rapist. Fact.

aquascoot continues to defend a self-confessed sexual predator,  who doesn't pay taxes, doesn't pay contractors, isn't a self-made millionaire, is in debt up to his orange eye balls, and is an alleged child rapist. Fact.

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Reply #52 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:17pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:14am:
only the superior man embraces chaos, embraces change, tears up the rule book .


The problem with that way of thinking is that firstly he alone can't do that under the Republican Control we see today, and secondly, you want an ethical man of good principles to be tearing up the rule book and writing a new one.  Even that isn't enough, but it shouldn't even be considered unless they meet that criteria.

And Trump doesn't not by a mile.

He'll do what he's always done and make the rules to suit himself, only this time rather than being a bully willing to silence critics through lawsuits, twitter attacks and continually lying by painting a false narrative until he gets his way, he is actually in a position of power to make the changes.

Sure he's still lying, tweeting and painting a false narratives, but that doesn't change the big shift in the power dynamic.  If he was capable of such change are we being told he is, surely he'd change his ways now that he holds all the cards?

And given that his actions in his transition to politics haven't shown in any way that he's changed his spots nor moving into team "contribution", we can only take his word for it. 

And for years, only strengthened by his campaign and few weeks in office, his word alone means nothing.

Absolutely nothing. 

His motive and what's in it for him is the only sign of how likely he is to follow through with any given claim and even then the end goal is all that matters.  He may claim he'll follow all environmental guidelines in building say a Golf Course.  At the end of the day, he brings in his own environmental advisors and follows their guidelines, builds the course and that's that.  End result sure, but how he got there was nothing like his claims. 

He just tells people what he thinks they want to here and for all his "Crooked Hillary" he can't help by lie when he does it, then double down when confronted with the proof of it.  It's still happening today.

All of that said, I do want him to succeed.  I would like him to "MAGA", but to that I'd also like to know what he means by that. 

It's a great slogan but without goal posts it means nothing, just like his word.

Yes it would be nice for the forgotten people to have a voice and that going a step further and being more than talk and have some real action in improving the outcomes of all Americans, but again, the question is "how"?

But before you can get to "how" we need to know what his vision is, where he sees the goal posts.  I understand from a businessman point of view you'd want to hold some things close to your chest lest they be stolen the cheap knock offs beating you to market, but from the point of view of running the country, it just comes off as there being no plan and the man and his team have no direction and are hopelessly out of their depth.

These are why some of these questions that they've unable to answer are so important.

Haters will always find a way to hate, but he and his supporters need to be able to identify and separate the attempts to undermine him from those at wanting to know what is happening so they can even form an opinion of him.

And they should help people with that.  The objective opinion anyone can form of him is that he is a thin skinned man baby who only cares about himself and will exploit the people like he has always done throughout his life to achieve his end.  The problem is, his end was to become President, not do anything as president.

He may be better than some of the existing politicians, especially if you take his character assessment of them vs his inflated self image, but that simply isn't enough.  He needs to prove himself, not simply claim to be better than everyone else, just as they would have had to do the same if they occupied the Oval Office.

So far, he's played things far too close to his chest and revealing such little detail it comes of as utter incompetence and at best, faking it until he makes it.

That's not good enough from the highest office in the free world.
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Reply #53 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Fact.


Much of that is documented fact, but the child rapist thing, until there is any evidence is a step to far for me.

That said, this is why I strive to understand why people support him and what it is he is doing, or claiming he will do, that allows them to push all the things aside like those you've listed (plus many more things) when even lesser things are enough to attack his opponents, critics or even those who simply don't support him.

I just want to understand what that is because I can't see it for myself.
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Reply #54 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:14am:
Big Donger wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:16am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:04am:
the destabilisation campaign started when trump announced he was running as a candidate. it didn't work back then and it won't work now.



LOL,


Anyone reading the comments of , say, pecca , would know that he is a confirmed and self - admitted liar.
So if a liar says bad things about Trump, that makes Trmp go up in a sane persons estimation.

the left are trumps best friends.

i think people like gweg are on his pay roll


True, Aquascoot. Trump's worst friends are those Republicans in congress and the senate - people like John McCain, who has a career's experience in defence, foreign policy and national security.

These Republicans want to see Trump come to his senses, but if he doesn't, will act in the interests of the US. If Trump is found to be acting in his own interests alone, he won't be supported by his party. If he's found to be acting on behalf of Putin, or the white supremacists, or his own business, they'll fight Trump hard. Many are already circling their wagons.



those republicans, of whom you speak, are still part of the mainstream narrative, the socially conditioning forces for groupthink.
everyone acts out of self interest.
they have their little pension plans and their mistresses and their yachts just like trump.

And they dont want anyone messing with the "status quo".

Now Trump has gone to a paradigm of personal development that is above these scrubby citizens.

he hwas overdosed on mistresses and yachts and the good life and realised it didnt fulfil him and now he has gone into "contribution".

he wants to "make america great" he says , and i actually believe him.

if he just wants to be a fat pedo as the left paint him, he would stay in the shadows.

so its not that...it cant be.

i would back his motives as more ethical then some career republican who is cosy in the current status quo.

only the superior man embraces chaos, embraces change, tears up the rule book .

all entrepreneurs know that you have to bend or break the rules to create something different (something better).
if you dont, there can be no progress.




I think his motives are more ethical then almost all other politicians and he is capable of getting things done.
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Reply #55 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:49pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Fact.


Much of that is documented fact, but the child rapist thing, until there is any evidence is a step to far for me.

That said, this is why I strive to understand why people support him and what it is he is doing, or claiming he will do, that allows them to push all the things aside like those you've listed (plus many more things) when even lesser things are enough to attack his opponents, critics or even those who simply don't support him.

I just want to understand what that is because I can't see it for myself.

The Mexican border is the hot issue: the Americans are scared isis will come through there and the logical chain of thought can't dismiss the possibility!

The election campaign wrote itself: someone just had to be crazy enough to say it!
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Reply #56 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:05pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:17pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:14am:
only the superior man embraces chaos, embraces change, tears up the rule book .


The problem with that way of thinking is that firstly he alone can't do that under the Republican Control we see today, and secondly, you want an ethical man of good principles to be tearing up the rule book and writing a new one.  Even that isn't enough, but it shouldn't even be considered unless they meet that criteria.

And Trump doesn't not by a mile.

He'll do what he's always done and make the rules to suit himself, only this time rather than being a bully willing to silence critics through lawsuits, twitter attacks and continually lying by painting a false narrative until he gets his way, he is actually in a position of power to make the changes.

Sure he's still lying, tweeting and painting a false narratives, but that doesn't change the big shift in the power dynamic.  If he was capable of such change are we being told he is, surely he'd change his ways now that he holds all the cards?

And given that his actions in his transition to politics haven't shown in any way that he's changed his spots nor moving into team "contribution", we can only take his word for it. 

And for years, only strengthened by his campaign and few weeks in office, his word alone means nothing.

Absolutely nothing. 

His motive and what's in it for him is the only sign of how likely he is to follow through with any given claim and even then the end goal is all that matters.  He may claim he'll follow all environmental guidelines in building say a Golf Course.  At the end of the day, he brings in his own environmental advisors and follows their guidelines, builds the course and that's that.  End result sure, but how he got there was nothing like his claims. 

He just tells people what he thinks they want to here and for all his "Crooked Hillary" he can't help by lie when he does it, then double down when confronted with the proof of it.  It's still happening today.

All of that said, I do want him to succeed.  I would like him to "MAGA", but to that I'd also like to know what he means by that. 

It's a great slogan but without goal posts it means nothing, just like his word.

Yes it would be nice for the forgotten people to have a voice and that going a step further and being more than talk and have some real action in improving the outcomes of all Americans, but again, the question is "how"?

But before you can get to "how" we need to know what his vision is, where he sees the goal posts.  I understand from a businessman point of view you'd want to hold some things close to your chest lest they be stolen the cheap knock offs beating you to market, but from the point of view of running the country, it just comes off as there being no plan and the man and his team have no direction and are hopelessly out of their depth.

These are why some of these questions that they've unable to answer are so important.

Haters will always find a way to hate, but he and his supporters need to be able to identify and separate the attempts to undermine him from those at wanting to know what is happening so they can even form an opinion of him.

And they should help people with that.  The objective opinion anyone can form of him is that he is a thin skinned man baby who only cares about himself and will exploit the people like he has always done throughout his life to achieve his end.  The problem is, his end was to become President, not do anything as president.

He may be better than some of the existing politicians, especially if you take his character assessment of them vs his inflated self image, but that simply isn't enough.  He needs to prove himself, not simply claim to be better than everyone else, just as they would have had to do the same if they occupied the Oval Office.

So far, he's played things far too close to his chest and revealing such little detail it comes of as utter incompetence and at best, faking it until he makes it.

That's not good enough from the highest office in the free world.


Very true, Sad. Of course it's early days, but to date, Trump has only stuffed things up in office. This only highlights his lack of planning and advice.

Imagine, Trump's Labor Secretary has just been outed as having had an illegal immigrant employed as a servant. How's that for an administration that appeals to the "average American". This is Trump's choice as secretary for LABOR.

We will make Amerika great again, no?
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Reply #57 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:26pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
So, the short version is, you think Trump is the answer to all our (well, the US) problems, or is it that only the truth can come from him?


"The chosen one" business is a bit too movie cliche for me, he's simply the first major politician to address the bigger issue that disenfranchises regular people from politics.

Maybe nothing will come from it, but if you don't give support, or actively undermine him while he is facing immensely powerful enemies, failure becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. 


SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
I really would like to know why Trump keeps getting such special treatment. 



Special treatment from whom?  The propaganda assault against him has certainly been the greatest I've ever seen, but you're not asking why.  Until you learn that the corporate media are not your
friends, that they only tell you want they want you to know, in the way they want you to know it, you're going to stay confused.   

One expects the propaganda arm of your enemy to attack the leader of a movement against it - that's exactly what they're supposed to do. 

It's when they don't attack that you worry, and they haven't let up for a minute.
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Reply #58 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm
 
Not once do you touch on an issue as to why he won. You skirt around.

Big Donger wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:50pm:
Alas, dear, those Republicans are well out of the mainstream narrative, which focuses on silly ideological point-scoring between left and right. The mainstream narrative - the one that sells newspapers and TV and radio and generates readers online - is drama: political intrigue, security threats, terrorism, but most importantly, conflict. Conflict, after all, is the essence of drama.

And this is why Trump has done so well. He understands drama. He was, remember, the star of a reality TV show.


Yawn. It's all about drama.

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The Establishment does not work this way. It usually shuns the limelight. The Establishment is motivated by continuity, stability, and order. This is not a left/right thing, which Trump understands all too well. He has donated and campaigned for both Democrats and Republicans as this is how you do business. Trump, you see, is the Establishment. His real estate business requires stability and order, but this conflicts with his celebrity business - Trump's "branding" - which requires controversy and drama to compete for airtime. An interesting irony.


Yawn. It's all about his real estate business.

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As head of state, the US presidency is the very embodiment of the Establishment. It's not a role for wreckers. There are clear limits on its powers, as Trump's disastrous attempt to ban Muslims has shown. This is not about left and right, but the separation of powers - the constitution, which Trump is sworn to uphold.


Muddled thinking (and irrelevant). It's about the Establishment. No, wait, it's about the powers of the Establishment. No, wait, it's about the separation of powers. Yawn.

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The Republican Establishment will go along with Trump only for as long as this is in their interests to do. They can't possibly support a president who fights the Establishment. They understand Trump's rhetoric to be merely populist, calculated to capture a certain segment of the electorate. In other words, they think he's all bluff.


It's about the Establishment. No, wait, it's about populism. No, wait, he's bluffing. Yawn.


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Trump understands this. He's good at reading people's motives. For the most part, his fighting words are indeed all bluff - this is, at least, what his kids have indicated. And as Trump himself has shown, he believes he merely needs to give the appearance of following through on his ridiculous election promises. You know, an attempt to ban people from a handful of Muslim countries, build a Mexican fence, fake a Mexican payment plan, and on and on.


It's all about appearances. Hang on, so why is he going through with his election promises? Yawn.

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But Trump is now finding that even symbolic gestures are impossible to achieve within the complex difusion of power in the US. Remember this, Aquascoot, it's important. We warned of this prior to Trump's election, and the reality of the presidency - a job Trump's always said he'll leave for others - has dawned upon him.


It's all about symbolic gestures. Yawn.

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The role of president is not a job for a fighter, it's a job for those who bring people together.


Like when identity politics went full retard under Obama and every other leftist 'leader'? And why Obama supported rebels and bombings in foreign countries, destablising the entire region. Yawn.

Lefties are done for because they simply won't reflect on why they lost. It might take a decade or more, but the left are finished. They are like a stupid animal that is being attacked but has no idea why they are being attacked, let alone how to push back against the attack. The only way for Trump and non-leftists to lose the culture war now is to massively stuff up.
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Re: ‘DESTABILIZATION CAMPAIGN’ Against Team Trump
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Lefties. Identity politics. Culture war.

Yawn. Yawn. Yawn.
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