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Trump accuses NSA and FBI
Feb 16^th, 2017 at 3:17am

Of giving out information illegally.

President Donald Trump has lashed out at the US intelligence community and media after new reports of contacts between members of his team and Russia.

Mr Trump accused the National Security Agency (NSA) and FBI of giving out information illegally.

Some US media say top Trump aides were in constant communication with Russian officials in the election campaign.

Intelligence officials previously said they believed Russia tried to influence the vote in favour of Mr Trump.

Moscow has dismissed the claim, describing it as based on unsubstantiated facts.

The allegations look set to reignite tensions between the president and his own intelligence services, which flared during the 2016 election campaign, says BBC Washington correspondent Gary O'Donoghue.

They come a day after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned amid a row over reports he discussed US sanctions with Russia before Mr Trump took office.

Leading Republicans have joined calls for a wide investigation into Mr Flynn's links with Russia.

Mr Trump appeared to attack the NSA and the FBI for what he described as leaks to the media about the contacts.

"Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?)," he tweeted.

This is the President of America accusing the FBI and NSA of deliberately undermining America.

How on Earth can his supporters accept this?

Yes ok, you've hitched your wagon to Trump, he won and well done but surely at the very least his actions raise an eyebrow.

He is essentially calling the FBI and NSA traitors by accusing them of leaking intelligence.

What more proof do you need that the man is unfit for the job?

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI Reply #1 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:38am are you ******* retarded?? either the security services are leaking information trying to white ant the Trump administration or everything that some of the media is saying is 100% Fake News.. which is it? I suppose you believe the "Golden Shower" stories as well.. fair dinkum.. what a halfwit..
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Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 7:27am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 6:38am:

are you ******* retarded??

either the security services are leaking information trying to white ant the Trump administration or everything that some of the media is saying is 100% Fake News..

which is it?

I suppose you believe the "Golden Shower" stories as well..

fair dinkum.. what a halfwit.. Angry

My thoughts exactly. That Flynn bizzo didn't leak itself.

This is another angle to undermine him - constant leaks, then if he says anything about it, the narrative will be "durrrh but u wuz fine wiv wikileaks leaking poo about the DNC"

Of course the nice person never-trumpers are well conditioned to dismiss anything he says, even things like this that are obvious.

He should "declassify" some documents that show exactly what sort of monster he has to tackle. They want to leak? The US government has got a whoooole lot more secrets than Trump does.

DRAIN THE SWAMP

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Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:00am

I just can't get over that so many people are siding with a nefarious network of unelected shadowy figures.

The "military industrial complex" that Eisenhower warned about.

The "secret societies" that Kennedy warned about.

All the smacking crappy dealings the US has been involved in over the last 60 years didn't start with Trump - it started with the network that you're now cheering on. All the protesting about Iraq, afghanistan, the 1% - all of this is dropped and forgotten as soon as the propaganda arm issues new orders.

Fair dinkum...I've said it before and I'll say it again - the only thing consistent about leftwads is that they'll consistently do what the idiot box tells them to.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:23am So is anyone denying that Flynn did the deed?
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bwood1946 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1598 Gender:	Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI Reply #5 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:31am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:23am: So is anyone denying that Flynn did the deed? What "deed" was that ?
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI Reply #6 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:34am Trump does not think carefully enough, before he speaks. It will probably be his downfall.
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Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI
Reply #7 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:47am

Raven wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 3:17am:

Of giving out information illegally.

Moscow has dismissed the claim, describing it as based on unsubstantiated facts.

An interesting choice of words... 'unsubstantiated facts'

Whats that adage? 'Many a slip between the cup and the lip'...

So its not a question of whether it is true (it seems the Russians know it is), just a matter of evidence (which it appears the FBI and CIA have).

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI Reply #8 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:48am bwood1946 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:31am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:23am: So is anyone denying that Flynn did the deed? What "deed" was that ? Ummm, talking with the Russian ambassador to overturn an Obama policy even bfore Trump got in power, then denying he ever did it.
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Reply #9 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:52am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:48am:

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:23am:

So is anyone denying that Flynn did the deed?

What "deed" was that Grin

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Ummm, talking with the Russian ambassador to overturn an Obama policy even bfore Trump got in power, then denying he ever did it.

OK good idea any idea that muzzi loving black b***std had should be over turned

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Reply #10 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:53am

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:48am:

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:23am:

So is anyone denying that Flynn did the deed?

What "deed" was that Grin

?

Ummm, talking with the Russian ambassador to overturn an Obama policy even bfore Trump got in power, then denying he ever did it.

OK good idea any idea that muzzi loving black b***std had should be over turned

Grin

So you agree with Russia then interfering in the US election?

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI Reply #11 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:53am Ever since Trump achieved the seemingly impossible, the media, the Hollywood celebrities, politicians, neighbours's dogs, EVERYTHING with a pulse has been hard at work digging for dirt in order to assassinate his presidency.
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Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI
Reply #12 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:55am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:53am:

Ever since Trump achieved the seemingly impossible, the media, the Hollywood celebrities, politicians, neighbours's dogs, EVERYTHING with a pulse has been hard at work digging for dirt in order to assassinate his presidency.

Digging for dirt implies theres nothing to be found.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Trump accuses NSA and FBI
Reply #13 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:59am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:53am:

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:48am:

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:31am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 16^th, 2017 at 8:23am:

So is anyone denying that Flynn did the deed?

What "deed" was that Grin

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Ummm, talking with the Russian ambassador to overturn an Obama policy even bfore Trump got in power, then denying he ever did it.

OK good idea any idea that muzzi loving black b***std had should be over turned

Grin

So you agree with Russia then interfering in the US election?

FFS THE YANKS HAVE BEEN INTERFERING IN OTHER COUNTRIES ELECTIONS FOR YEARS

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Trump makes unfortunate, but good move on Flynn
Reply #14 - Feb 16^th, 2017 at 9:00am

I applaud President Trump for demanding, & getting, the resignation of Flynn.......not because he was chatting with the Russians.....I'm fine with that......but, what I'm not fine with....& neither was the President ........I was not fine with Flynn lying to the Vice-President when asked about it....way more a problem than Flynn having general talks with the Russians.

So good on ya Mr. President.....for not permitting disloyalty & untrustworthiness within your Administration.......now, go out & hire yourself a more trustworthy adviser.

In the interim, Kellogg is a fine temporary replacement.

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