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Reply #90 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 1:47am
 
Panther wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:58pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 2:41pm:
But Panther. Two FBI enquiries said she didn't do any of those things.

Trump is using his POTUS Twitter account to conduct private business and vandettas.

Is this allowed in your constitution?


I don't know if there is anything in our Australian Constitution covering that, but so far in the US Constitution I can't find anywhere it's expressly not permitted?......Can you?   If so, specifically where?

BTW....can you link to those specific tweets, you know, precisely where he is, as you claim, he is actually conducting "Private Business" &/or Personal "Vendettas", if they exist, which as of late you can understand me having some "minor" doubts as to their existence?

Hey, I'm sure most everyone would like to see them.......find them & post them here for us all to peruse. Thanks Wink


Good heavens, you're not an Amerikan?
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Reply #91 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 7:46am
 
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We now have 6 pages of them doing just that.
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Reply #92 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:36pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
I'm just astonished how so many thing that made Clinton utterly unelectable and the most corrupt and dishonest politician ever are not only acceptable but defending when they are actions Trump takes.

Clearly those are not the reasons to vote against Clinton or not support her, something else must be at play.

At the same time, the moment Trump took the oath people were claiming he'd already made America great again.  He did nothing at that point.

Again, something else must be at play.

I know what it looks like from the outside observer, but it can't really be that simple, can it?


people will ignore imperfections if they feel their leader (in whatever context you want to put them) are addressing their concerns. obama supporters overlooked, or didn't care, that obama was supporting rebels and bombings in foreign countries. how many deaths due to obama and clinton meddling, a few thousand? in short, that was a small price to pay for the 'diversity' paradise at home.
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Reply #93 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 2:31pm
 
Panther wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 10:23am:
[size=11][font=Georgia][i]IMHO....No, that's completely different. Mishandling Classified Information....information that didn't belong to her, information that belonged to the Government....thereby, the People. They're talking possible espionage.....the laws she has been said to have broken, had nothing whatsoever to do with the basic Freedom of Speech contained in the First Amendment to the US Constitution, & if they prosecuted her by existing espionage law, she wouldn't stand much of a chance....



You do realise that the previous politicians they checked - the two previous Secretary of state had both effectively done the same thing. They were frightened to investigate the rest of the US politicians because they knew what they were going to find.

They very likely had all breached email security regulations. - all of them.
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Reply #94 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:03pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 2:31pm:
Panther wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 10:23am:
IMHO....No, that's completely different. Mishandling Classified Information....information that didn't belong to her, information that belonged to the Government....thereby, the People. They're talking possible espionage.....the laws she has been said to have broken, had nothing whatsoever to do with the basic Freedom of Speech contained in the First Amendment to the US Constitution, & if they prosecuted her by existing espionage law, she wouldn't stand much of a chance....




You do realise that the previous politicians they checked - the two previous Secretary of state had both
effectively done the same thing.........



Glad you didn't research on this one either Daffy!

Did you know that the law changed before SHillary Clinton became Secretart of State?

Why?

Could it be that when something is broke, sometimes they try to fix it......in this case for National Security Reasons?

JFYI, the laws were changed, & not only that, Clinton knew it, & ignored it completely, only to later deny knowing it, & to then later on admit she knew, but like you saw nothing wrong with it because others did it before her......unfortunately she had already admitted to knowing the laws were changed......
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So
....Not effectively the same thing...




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As an employee of the People, as Sec. of State, she had the responsibility of protecting Classified information, work product that does not belong to her personally, nor ever belonged to her personally, from people who may have motives not in the best interests of America, & its People (her employers), from accessing that Classified Information.

This never was about her personal emails, say to her daughter, or her husband, to her Uncle Fred.

This was always about how she stored, & where she stored Classified Information vital to National Security, subjecting these materials, & her work product, to the peering eyes of anyone able to break into her unsecured server(s).....to the detriment of the American People & her Government.

Clinton chose not only to disregard that responsibility, but decided to co-mingle her personal correspondence with her Work Product & Classified Correspondence, in a flagrant display of indifference, even though she was, by her own Congressional testimony & eventual admission, she was completely aware that it was inappropriate to do so. Her reasoning that years before her that it was done by  another Secretary of State, but later admitted that she was aware that subsequently, new laws had since been put in place to guard against using "Personal Servers" which may lead to housing Classified Information insecurely & illegally.

Now, any of her personal correspondence, not related to her duties as Secretary of State would be perfectly fine on the server she decided to use, but by law she was aware she needed to keep America's Classified Information, & all her work product, separate, & secure on government servers.

It's not, & never was a Freedom of Speech issue.....& for the life of me, I can not honestly understand how anyone in their right minds can confuse her activity, with how President Trump spoke freely about what he did, & as he did on Twitter.

It's like comparing his using a strong mouth wash, with her using caustic drain cleaner, both with different end results.



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Reply #95 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:03pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 2:31pm:
Panther wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 10:23am:
[size=11][font=Georgia][i]IMHO....No, that's completely different. Mishandling Classified Information....information that didn't belong to her, information that belonged to the Government....thereby, the People. They're talking possible espionage.....the laws she has been said to have broken, had nothing whatsoever to do with the basic Freedom of Speech contained in the First Amendment to the US Constitution, & if they prosecuted her by existing espionage law, she wouldn't stand much of a chance....



You do realise that the previous politicians they checked - the two previous Secretary of state had both effectively done the same thing. They were frightened to investigate the rest of the US politicians because they knew what they were going to find.

They very likely had all breached email security regulations. - all of them.


This just Black Panther thinking that he has a grip on US consitutional law. He has a grip alright... and his is usually engaged in 'gripping' when he posts.
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Reply #96 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #97 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:10pm
 
Panther wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



'gripping' now, right?
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Reply #98 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:16pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:10pm:
Panther wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



'gripping' now, right?


No, that's your M.O., I was just wondering how the caught out lil leftist girlie I intellectually bitch-slapped recently was doing.....& here you are she is....recover from your intellectual bitch-slapping yet, or just back for more???   Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #99 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 10:09pm
 
Panther wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:10pm:
Panther wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



'gripping' now, right?


No, that's your M.O., I was just wondering how the caught out lil leftist girlie I intellectually bitch-slapped recently was doing.....& here you are she is....recover from your intellectual bitch-slapping yet, or just back for more???   Grin Grin Grin


you've never bitch slapped anyone. Your blatant racism and ignorance prevents you from making any dent in anyones arguments.
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