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Reply #60 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 12:47pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 9:40am:

i think it literally pisses a lot of guys off to see some (well in their mind) arrogant douche bag who maybe isnt even good looking, be able to immediately go physical with a girl.

Ah yes...

Pretty women out walking with gorillas down my street...

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Reply #61 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 12:52pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 9:40am:

i think it literally pisses a lot of guys off to see some (well in their mind) arrogant douche bag who maybe isnt even good looking, be able to immediately go physical with a girl.

Ah yes...

Pretty women out walking with gorillas down my street...

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Reply #62 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:03pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 11:34am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 8:31am:

Back to the discussion about science.

You mean like the recently thoroughly debunked Karl et al "Pausebuster" paper? Where they used a new experimental statistical model that turns out is no good. One that had never been approved for use.

They are having to redesign it and it is still not fit for purpose.

That kind of science?

"There are Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics."

Not sure how when every right wing web site says its debunked, that it means its debunked. If the model is flawed, surely thats for a statistician to say isn't it?

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Reply #63 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:04pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

That will often be the case.

So never trumpers have an emotional hissyfit against him, leading to his supporters emotionally defending him.

An impasse. How does this get resolved? .

We drop alternate facts and concentrate on facts. When Trump tells the truth we acknowledge it. When he lies, we acknowledge that.

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Reply #64 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:08pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 9:40am:

North, dont get caught up in this alpha and beta thing.
But recognise that men are attracted by looks and this can be instantaneous and that women are attracted by behaviour and this can be instantaneous.

i think it literally pisses a lot of guys off to see some (well in their mind) arrogant douche bag who maybe isnt even good looking, be able to immediately go physical with a girl. this is because most guys have brought into the group think that being tall and dark and handsome and having a nice watch is really important...it isnt.
it is the behaviour that is important.

cocky confident behaviour is very attractive to women.

they may say they want a gentleman...yes they do, to "provide' for them.

but they (not all but a lot) will become instantaneously aroused by some cocky confident guy who just acts entitled.

you know how if a woman looks a certain way, she just looks sexy.
if a man ACTS a certain way, it has the same effect.
and Trump does act that way, he justs acts indifferent, entitled and like he couldnt give a sh*t. and women WANT the validation from the guy who doesnt give a sh*t. they dont want the validation from the gentleman, they already know he wants her. hot women get hit up all day by "nice guys", they are totally numb to it. But when they get hit up by some guy who has those icey and indifferent behaviours...now they suddenly want what they dont have.
its just human nature.

i better search for a journal article for bojack...from the journal of "what works in the field" perhaps

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You're a sycophant yet well hidden for some reason: in other words you're a fascist!

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Reply #65 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 9:40am:

i think it literally pisses a lot of guys off to see some (well in their mind) arrogant douche bag who maybe isnt even good looking, be able to immediately go physical with a girl.

Ah yes...

Pretty women out walking with gorillas down my street...

Footy heroes?

One of the best songs ever Wink

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Science under attack under Trump Reply #66 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:09pm What constitutes a fact as oposed to an alternative fact? That discernment is at the mercy of "the elephant".
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Science under attack under Trump Reply #67 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:14pm ... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:09pm: What constitutes a fact as oposed to an alternative fact? That discernment is at the mercy of "the elephant". Well for instance the Bowling Green massacre is an alternative fact right?
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Re: Science under attack under Trump
Reply #69 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:36pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

See - theres that elephant again.

The rider would recognise a mistake by another person, the elephant demands it be called a malicious lie attributable directly to President Trump.

I'd recognise it as a mistake if it was done once. Kellyanne Conway gave two more interviews where she mentioned the same massacre. Then there was an attempt to say well they caused a massacre in Iraq.

Additionally the list of terrorist attacks that werent supposedly given media attention.

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Reply #70 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:37pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

See - theres that elephant again.

The rider would recognise a mistake by another person, the elephant demands it be called a malicious lie attributable directly to President Trump.

You're talking about approximation method!

Therefore I find it has it's merits as an argument, for sure! (If not an argumentive method, to be more for sure!)

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Reply #71 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:49pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

See - theres that elephant again.

The rider would recognise a mistake by another person, the elephant demands it be called a malicious lie attributable directly to President Trump.

You're talking about approximation method!

Therefore I find it has it's merits as an argument, for sure! (If not an argumentive method, to be more for sure!)

Yes, the way i see it is that for meaning to be conveyed, while the speaker obviously needs to make every effort to clearly express themselves, but also the reader needs to want to understand.

Sadly, most are just looking for a green light to remain fixed in their preconceptions. Its the real life equivalent of throwing out an argument in its entirety because of a spelling mistake or a misplaced apostrophe, which we see all the time online.

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Reply #72 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:51pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:03pm:

Not sure how when every right wing web site says its debunked, that it means its debunked. If the model is flawed, surely thats for a statistician to say isn't it?

So you don't think that reworking a model that is unstable and not fit for purpose, is proof enough? Interesting, but stupid. (Laugh In)

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Reply #73 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:56pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:36pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

See - theres that elephant again.

The rider would recognise a mistake by another person, the elephant demands it be called a malicious lie attributable directly to President Trump.

I'd recognise it as a mistake if it was done once. Kellyanne Conway gave two more interviews where she mentioned the same massacre. Then there was an attempt to say well they caused a massacre in Iraq.

Additionally the list of terrorist attacks that werent supposedly given media attention.

Even though you can easily figure out what she meant, you chose not to entertain the thought.

Elephant on the rampage.

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Re: Science under attack under Trump
Reply #74 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:58pm

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:56pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:36pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

See - theres that elephant again.

The rider would recognise a mistake by another person, the elephant demands it be called a malicious lie attributable directly to President Trump.

I'd recognise it as a mistake if it was done once. Kellyanne Conway gave two more interviews where she mentioned the same massacre. Then there was an attempt to say well they caused a massacre in Iraq.

Additionally the list of terrorist attacks that werent supposedly given media attention.

Even though you can easily figure out what she meant, you chose not to entertain the thought.

Elephant on the rampage.

Because from a spokesman for a President we expect better. PLus just admit the mistake not the sidetracking and obfuscation.

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