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Re: Science under attack under Trump
Reply #105 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:59am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:54am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:52am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:32am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:23am:
Raven wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 10:50pm:
lee wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Raven wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
The President is a profoundly anti-intellectual man, someone who has no idea what wind is, who thinks vaccines cause autism, and who often thought that climate change is an international conspiracy specifically designed to hurt the United States.

That last one would make a good movie.

97% of the world's scientists come up with the global warming hoax but are exposed by a plucky band of billionaires and oil companies.


Yeah, but you believe the 97% mantra


Yeah because it's backed up by science.

Does this mean you fall in the 3%?


The '97%' claim has long since been debunked and a more thorough - and peer-reviewed - study found the figure at around 30%. The rest simply state that they dont know.



But didnt a large proportion of those say it was likely?


no the vast majority said they simply didnt know. I dont remember the source, but Ive given up saving these things because the climate hysterics disbelieve anything they dont like so the purpose in showing proof is limited.

Also, given the massive failure of climate predictions  it would make sense most reputable scientists would back away from making strong claims that would be most likely proven wrong. we simply dont know .1% of what we need to know to make accurate predictions and to lay blame.



What I was trying to intimate is that its an example of Dunning-Kruger. IN that scientists who know a fair bit know that there are automatically some errors and things we dont know, so don't express certainty.

The less you know the more confident you are.


It is actually some of this arrogance about 'the science is settled' that was the first clue that they didnt know much at all.  I research in an area of psychology and whenever I think I am about to grasp some basic principle, it splits up into yet more subcategories.
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Reply #106 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 3:57pm
 
Raven wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 10:50pm:
Yeah because it's backed up by science.

Does this mean you fall in the 3%?



Perhaps you can tell us which 97% claim you like?

Cook?

Anderegg?

Doran & Zimmerman?

Each has its own flaws.
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