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kemal

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Will
Feb 4^th, 2017 at 4:12pm

Gandalf prove that this divine fatwah is in fact erroneous. As he is the only one on this forum that can read Arabic scrawl.

Will he tell porkies to protect his Abramatic faith.

Over to you Gandalf.

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فتوى غريبة: زنا المحارم يغفر
فتوى غريبة: زنا المحارم يغفر
تاريخ النشر : 2017-01-31 خ- خ+

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رام الله - دنيا الوطن
أفتى الشيخ السعودي عبدالله السويلم، فتوى غريبة بأن زنا المحارم يغفر ، أما ترك صلاة الفجر ذنبا لا يغتفر.

وأكد أن من اغتصب ابنته او اخته ومات يجوز غسله والصلاة عليه ومن ترك صلاة الفجر لا يجوز غسله والصلاة عليه بعد موته.

في هذا السياق، اعتبر الاستاذ المصري الدكتور عبد المنعم فؤاد أستاذ العقيدة و الفلسفة في جامعة الأزهر، أن الفتوى تتعارض مع المنطق.

وقال فؤاد حول الفتوى: "هذا غلو من قبل المفتي السعودي و الإسلام نهانا عن الغلو، وهذه الفتوى تتعارض مع المنطق و تحدث بلبلة بلا داعي".

وأكد أن ترك الصلاة يحتاج للاستغفار أما زنا المحارم فهو تعدٍ علي الاخلاق و القيم و هتك للعرض والله لا يقبل ذلك

المزيد على دنيا الوطن ..

What is your interpretation of this Gandalf?

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kemal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 606 Gender:	Re: Will Reply #1 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 5:03pm Does it mean, If a guardian rapes his sister or daughter he can be forgiven but if you fail to attend morning prayers it's a sin that cannot be forg.... Over to Gandalf.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Will Reply #2 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:24pm You realise you're quoting a professor of Islam pointing out the logical inconsistency of the fatwa right?
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Will Reply #3 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:30pm Professor Grand Moofta Alf.
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kemal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 606 Gender:	Re: Will Reply #4 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:32pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:24pm: You realise you're quoting a professor of Islam pointing out the logical inconsistency of the fatwa right? Gandalf, I am unable to decipher third world squiggles but thought you may be able to, so what is true?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Will Reply #5 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:50pm kemal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Gandalf, I am unable to decipher third world squiggles Thats a shame.
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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Will Reply #6 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 7:51pm It translates to digression of mankind through religious beliefs with one religion trying its hardest. They come, they saw, they tried to conquer they failed, 4billion people praying five times a day doesn't seem to have them any good. god is great.
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Reply #7 - Feb 5^th, 2017 at 8:34am

Or you could explain this...
Islamic Affairs/strange opinion: incest incest bizarre opinion: forgive forgive publication date: 2017-01-31 x-SM listen RAM Allah-Sheikh Abdullah decreed home minimum Swailem, a strange opinion that incest forgive, either leave Fajr unforgivable sin. It was raping his daughter or sister and Matt prayer may be laundered and leave the Fajr prayer cannot be laundered it after his death. In this context, the Egyptian Professor Dr Abdul Munim Fouad Professor of religion and philosophy at Al Azhar University, the opinion inconsistent with logic. Fuad said about the opinion: ' this hyperbole by the Mufti of Saudi Arabia and Islam forbade us from hyperbole, this opinion contradict logic and uncertainty for no reason '. He stressed that praying needs forgiveness either incest is longer on ethics and values, and HTC to offer and Allah does not accept that more on low country.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Will Reply #8 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 1:00pm Johnnie wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:30pm: Professor Grand Moofta Alf. lol! laughing very quietly
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kemal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 606 Gender:	Re: Will Reply #9 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 7:29pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:50pm: kemal wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 6:32pm: Gandalf, I am unable to decipher third world squiggles Thats a shame. Obviously your in the same boat.
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