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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #135 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:16am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:15am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:12am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:05am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:03am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:00am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:56am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:54am:

That too.

Make up your mind! Catch 22 for men. Grin

No it's not. If men have sex, there is a likelihood that they will become fathers.

No catch 22.

Yes there is, the catch 22 is the woman's choice.

It' the woman's body. Of course it's her choice.

And the man's body has nothing to do with it... I could have sworn there was this little hard extension that matched this orifice ... but that was just an accident of nature....

Can the man put his life and body on the line by going through 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth and then everything that coms after?

No?

Then the scales are tipped.

By nature.

Everything that come after, yes, indeed. Childbirth is not that life threatening in Australia or the US. I gave you the AU numbers, yet you would feel compelled to cross how many roads a day without a thought, drive how many miles etc?

Death in childbirth is not a major factor in this debate.

I nearly died in both my childbirths. In the second pregnancy, i was told to get my affair in order.

It wsa a 21 week death watch.

The woman that had what i did before m died.

Don't you dare tell me its' easy.

Nearly is not good enough. You didn't. Missed by "" that much, so did my wife with her bleeding, we are talking about childbirth in Au and it's a pretty safe thing to do.

You think i'd go through that for someone else to be a parent?

You're tripping.

No - but you'd go through it for YOU to be a parent..........

Indeed. Me and my husband.

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #136 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:17am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:12am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:05am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:03am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:00am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:56am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:54am:

That too.

Make up your mind! Catch 22 for men. Grin

No it's not. If men have sex, there is a likelihood that they will become fathers.

No catch 22.

Yes there is, the catch 22 is the woman's choice.

It' the woman's body. Of course it's her choice.

And the man's body has nothing to do with it... I could have sworn there was this little hard extension that matched this orifice ... but that was just an accident of nature....

Can the man put his life and body on the line by going through 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth and then everything that coms after?

No?

Then the scales are tipped.

By nature.

Everything that come after, yes, indeed. Childbirth is not that life threatening in Australia or the US. I gave you the AU numbers, yet you would feel compelled to cross how many roads a day without a thought, drive how many miles etc?

Death in childbirth is not a major factor in this debate.

I nearly died in both my childbirths. In the second pregnancy, i was told to get my affair in order.

It wsa a 21 week death watch.

The woman that had what i did before m died.

Don't you dare tell me its' easy.

Argh.. some women are of a weaker strand... perhaps they are shown to not be worthy of child-bearing.... in days of yore you would not have made it without the intervention of men doctors and scientists..... argh, aye......

Get f####d.

NOOOOOOOOO! The ultimate sanction (or is it a blessing? Yummmm)... but if I did 'get f###ked, what are the chances of a pregnancy eventuating? And then the whole argument starts again....

(I love arguing with feminists and righties - they are soooooo easy......)

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17001 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions Reply #137 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am: Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am: 0.0068% is not dangerous. Are you seriously saying that pregnancy and childbirth are without complication? What I am saying is that childbirth is not the danger to the mother your argument needs. 0.0068%
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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #138 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:21am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:17am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:12am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:05am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:03am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:00am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:56am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:54am:

That too.

Make up your mind! Catch 22 for men. Grin

No it's not. If men have sex, there is a likelihood that they will become fathers.

No catch 22.

Yes there is, the catch 22 is the woman's choice.

It' the woman's body. Of course it's her choice.

And the man's body has nothing to do with it... I could have sworn there was this little hard extension that matched this orifice ... but that was just an accident of nature....

Can the man put his life and body on the line by going through 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth and then everything that coms after?

No?

Then the scales are tipped.

By nature.

Everything that come after, yes, indeed. Childbirth is not that life threatening in Australia or the US. I gave you the AU numbers, yet you would feel compelled to cross how many roads a day without a thought, drive how many miles etc?

Death in childbirth is not a major factor in this debate.

I nearly died in both my childbirths. In the second pregnancy, i was told to get my affair in order.

It wsa a 21 week death watch.

The woman that had what i did before m died.

Don't you dare tell me its' easy.

Argh.. some women are of a weaker strand... perhaps they are shown to not be worthy of child-bearing.... in days of yore you would not have made it without the intervention of men doctors and scientists..... argh, aye......

Get f####d.

NOOOOOOOOO! The ultimate sanction (or is it a blerssing? Yummmm)... but if I did 'get f###ked, what are the chances of a pregnancy eventuating? And then the whole argument starts again....

(I love arguing with feminists and righties - they are soooooo easy......)

You seriously think you've achieved something other than show yoursef to be a pig?

Hilarious.

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #139 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

0.0068% is not dangerous.

Are you seriously saying that pregnancy and childbirth are without complication?

What I am saying is that childbirth is not the danger to the mother your argument needs.
0.0068%

0.068% sorry. Point still stands.

What percentage of women die from crossing the road, driving a car, drowning etc. If you want to use death as an argument it has to be substantially better than that.

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #140 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:16am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:15am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:12am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:05am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:03am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:00am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:56am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:54am:

That too.

Make up your mind! Catch 22 for men. Grin

No it's not. If men have sex, there is a likelihood that they will become fathers.

No catch 22.

Yes there is, the catch 22 is the woman's choice.

It' the woman's body. Of course it's her choice.

And the man's body has nothing to do with it... I could have sworn there was this little hard extension that matched this orifice ... but that was just an accident of nature....

Can the man put his life and body on the line by going through 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth and then everything that coms after?

No?

Then the scales are tipped.

By nature.

Everything that come after, yes, indeed. Childbirth is not that life threatening in Australia or the US. I gave you the AU numbers, yet you would feel compelled to cross how many roads a day without a thought, drive how many miles etc?

Death in childbirth is not a major factor in this debate.

I nearly died in both my childbirths. In the second pregnancy, i was told to get my affair in order.

It wsa a 21 week death watch.

The woman that had what i did before m died.

Don't you dare tell me its' easy.

Nearly is not good enough. You didn't. Missed by "" that much, so did my wife with her bleeding, we are talking about childbirth in Au and it's a pretty safe thing to do.

You think i'd go through that for someone else to be a parent?

You're tripping.

No - but you'd go through it for YOU to be a parent..........

Indeed. Me and my husband.

Ah - equal desire, equal responsibility, equal rights.. now where were we with this discussion of pregnancy termination being a one-way street?

BED TIME! Night.....

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #141 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

0.0068% is not dangerous.

Are you seriously saying that pregnancy and childbirth are without complication?

What I am saying is that childbirth is not the danger to the mother your argument needs.
0.0068%

PREGNANCY and childbirth.

And i note you nver answered my earlier question.

Will the father be prepared to compensate the mother for the time she needs to take off work? For any employment opportunities or advancements that she may forgo by neding to takee time off work?

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #142 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:24am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:16am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:15am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:12am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:05am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:03am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:00am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:56am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:54am:

That too.

Make up your mind! Catch 22 for men. Grin

No it's not. If men have sex, there is a likelihood that they will become fathers.

No catch 22.

Yes there is, the catch 22 is the woman's choice.

It' the woman's body. Of course it's her choice.

And the man's body has nothing to do with it... I could have sworn there was this little hard extension that matched this orifice ... but that was just an accident of nature....

Can the man put his life and body on the line by going through 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth and then everything that coms after?

No?

Then the scales are tipped.

By nature.

Everything that come after, yes, indeed. Childbirth is not that life threatening in Australia or the US. I gave you the AU numbers, yet you would feel compelled to cross how many roads a day without a thought, drive how many miles etc?

Death in childbirth is not a major factor in this debate.

I nearly died in both my childbirths. In the second pregnancy, i was told to get my affair in order.

It wsa a 21 week death watch.

The woman that had what i did before m died.

Don't you dare tell me its' easy.

Nearly is not good enough. You didn't. Missed by "" that much, so did my wife with her bleeding, we are talking about childbirth in Au and it's a pretty safe thing to do.

You think i'd go through that for someone else to be a parent?

You're tripping.

No - but you'd go through it for YOU to be a parent..........

Indeed. Me and my husband.

Ah - equal desire, equal responsibility, equal rights.. now where were we with this discussion of pregnancy termination being a one-way street?

BED TIME! Night.....

Because it is a woman's body and her choice.

You're just going to have to come to terms with that.

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #143 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:26am

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

0.0068% is not dangerous.

Are you seriously saying that pregnancy and childbirth are without complication?

What I am saying is that childbirth is not the danger to the mother your argument needs.
0.0068%

PREGNANCY and childbirth.

And i note you nver answered my earlier question.

Will the father be prepared to compensate the mother for the time she needs to take off work? For any employment opportunities or advancements that she may forgo by neding to takee time off work?

Now that is something that can be negotiated! We are getting somewhere. Almost all women can work until the last 4 weeks so it shouldn't be too much of an impost.

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #144 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:27am

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:26am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

0.0068% is not dangerous.

Are you seriously saying that pregnancy and childbirth are without complication?

What I am saying is that childbirth is not the danger to the mother your argument needs.
0.0068%

PREGNANCY and childbirth.

And i note you nver answered my earlier question.

Will the father be prepared to compensate the mother for the time she needs to take off work? For any employment opportunities or advancements that she may forgo by neding to takee time off work?

Now that is something that can be negotiated! We are getting somewhere.

Oh get over yourslf. I raised that pages back.

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #145 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:27am

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:21am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:17am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:12am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:05am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:03am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:00am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:56am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:54am:

That too.

Make up your mind! Catch 22 for men. Grin

No it's not. If men have sex, there is a likelihood that they will become fathers.

No catch 22.

Yes there is, the catch 22 is the woman's choice.

It' the woman's body. Of course it's her choice.

And the man's body has nothing to do with it... I could have sworn there was this little hard extension that matched this orifice ... but that was just an accident of nature....

Can the man put his life and body on the line by going through 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth and then everything that coms after?

No?

Then the scales are tipped.

By nature.

Everything that come after, yes, indeed. Childbirth is not that life threatening in Australia or the US. I gave you the AU numbers, yet you would feel compelled to cross how many roads a day without a thought, drive how many miles etc?

Death in childbirth is not a major factor in this debate.

I nearly died in both my childbirths. In the second pregnancy, i was told to get my affair in order.

It wsa a 21 week death watch.

The woman that had what i did before m died.

Don't you dare tell me its' easy.

Argh.. some women are of a weaker strand... perhaps they are shown to not be worthy of child-bearing.... in days of yore you would not have made it without the intervention of men doctors and scientists..... argh, aye......

Get f####d.

NOOOOOOOOO! The ultimate sanction (or is it a blerssing? Yummmm)... but if I did 'get f###ked, what are the chances of a pregnancy eventuating? And then the whole argument starts again....

(I love arguing with feminists and righties - they are soooooo easy......)

You seriously think you've achieved something other than show yoursef to be a pig?

Hilarious.

Tut, tut - hold up your end of the discussion and leave out the personal stuff... we've got Longie and a few others to do that, and I expect better from you. I value and respect your views and position, but I retain the right to argue against some of them, without rancour....

I'm not a pig - I'm a descendant of a long line of Ancient Kings.... Irish and Scottish... and perhaps some German werewolves or similar.... but primarily I'm a Great Plains Indian in my worldview. Some great-grand-mere there.... she had no trouble birthing babies, it seems.....

Good night..... got to go to bed...

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #146 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:28am

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:26am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

0.0068% is not dangerous.

Are you seriously saying that pregnancy and childbirth are without complication?

What I am saying is that childbirth is not the danger to the mother your argument needs.
0.0068%

PREGNANCY and childbirth.

And i note you nver answered my earlier question.

Will the father be prepared to compensate the mother for the time she needs to take off work? For any employment opportunities or advancements that she may forgo by neding to takee time off work?

Now that is something that can be negotiated! We are getting somewhere.

Oh get over yourslf. I raised that pages back.

Oh, but I am all over myself! Grin

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #147 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:29am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:21am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:17am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:12am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:10am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:05am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:03am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:01am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:00am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:56am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 1:54am:

That too.

Make up your mind! Catch 22 for men. Grin

No it's not. If men have sex, there is a likelihood that they will become fathers.

No catch 22.

Yes there is, the catch 22 is the woman's choice.

It' the woman's body. Of course it's her choice.

And the man's body has nothing to do with it... I could have sworn there was this little hard extension that matched this orifice ... but that was just an accident of nature....

Can the man put his life and body on the line by going through 9 months of pregnancy and then childbirth and then everything that coms after?

No?

Then the scales are tipped.

By nature.

Everything that come after, yes, indeed. Childbirth is not that life threatening in Australia or the US. I gave you the AU numbers, yet you would feel compelled to cross how many roads a day without a thought, drive how many miles etc?

Death in childbirth is not a major factor in this debate.

I nearly died in both my childbirths. In the second pregnancy, i was told to get my affair in order.

It wsa a 21 week death watch.

The woman that had what i did before m died.

Don't you dare tell me its' easy.

Argh.. some women are of a weaker strand... perhaps they are shown to not be worthy of child-bearing.... in days of yore you would not have made it without the intervention of men doctors and scientists..... argh, aye......

Get f####d.

NOOOOOOOOO! The ultimate sanction (or is it a blerssing? Yummmm)... but if I did 'get f###ked, what are the chances of a pregnancy eventuating? And then the whole argument starts again....

(I love arguing with feminists and righties - they are soooooo easy......)

You seriously think you've achieved something other than show yoursef to be a pig?

Hilarious.

Tut, tut - hold up your end of the discussion and leave out the personal stuff... we've got Longie and a few others to do that, and I expect better from you. I value and respect your views and position, but I retain the right to argue against some of them, without rancour....

I'm not a pig - I'm a descendant of a long line of Ancient Kings.... Irish and Scottish... and perhaps some German werewolves or similar.... but primarily I'm a Great Plains Indian in my worldview. Some great-grand-mere there.... she had no trouble birthing babies, it seems.....

Good night..... got to go to bed...

.

LOL! You just told me i was a weak woman who in other ages would be dead.

Pig.

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Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions
Reply #148 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:29am

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:27am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:26am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:23am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:20am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:19am:

Setanta wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:18am:

0.0068% is not dangerous.

Are you seriously saying that pregnancy and childbirth are without complication?

What I am saying is that childbirth is not the danger to the mother your argument needs.
0.0068%

PREGNANCY and childbirth.

And i note you nver answered my earlier question.

Will the father be prepared to compensate the mother for the time she needs to take off work? For any employment opportunities or advancements that she may forgo by neding to takee time off work?

Now that is something that can be negotiated! We are getting somewhere.

Oh get over yourslf. I raised that pages back.

Oh, but I am all over myself! Grin

Careful. You'll go blind.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17001 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: New Law Lets Dads Veto Abortions Reply #149 - Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:32am mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2017 at 2:29am: LOL! You just told me i was a weak woman who in other ages would be dead. Pig. I think you are a bit of a tough and well mannered cookie, we'd fight all night! And it'd be fun! Are you off too?
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