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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: CNN on the outer Reply #15 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:17pm Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:16pm: Nobody likes a biased news service. didn't stop you cheering for murdoch when gillard was in govt.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: CNN on the outer Reply #16 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:17pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:16pm: Nobody likes a biased news service. didn't stop you cheering for murdoch when gillard was in govt. I dislike the media muppet.
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Reply #17 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:11pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:07pm:

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

rubbish

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory. They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

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Reply #18 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:23pm

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:11pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:07pm:

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

rubbish

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory. They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

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Reply #19 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:26pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:23pm:

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:11pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:07pm:

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

rubbish

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory. They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? Grin

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Reply #20 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:26pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:23pm:

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:11pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:07pm:

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

rubbish

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory. They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

Okay. So why would they be in "desperation" if their needs and concerns had been addressed by the previous administration?

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Reply #21 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:27pm

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:16pm:

Well actually it isn't rubbish John. Have a little look at the States in Middle America where Trump crucified Clinton..right there..that's where she lost the election.

PS If you want the truth then go to the social networks. That's the only place you will find the truth these days. Main stream media are a team of sh.t

Aren't they ever.

Nothing but propaganda agencies for liberal-progressive socialist ideologies.

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Reply #22 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:43pm

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory.

Name them (no Google) and then Google gerrymandering.

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Pretty sure she did. Hippie.

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Reply #24 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:23pm

The Democrats most certainly did not take them for granted, Honky. From Bill Clinton on, their mantra has been, "it's the economy, stupid". Since the GFC, unemployment under Obama dropped from over 10% to less than 5%.

The US has been working on a policy framework similar to Keating's back in the 1990s. With free trade, manufacturing jobs go, but service jobs are created. Keating and both Clintons have promoted the creation of a "smart economy", promoting education to get people away from repetitive, low-skilled manufacturing jobs.

From an economic/GDP point of view, it makes no sense to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US. Higher skilled work produces more wealth per capita. Trump's infrastructure plans make far more sense. If done properly, this will bring economic growth, but this rely on free trade to make use of those highways and bridges. Infrastructure brings economic growth if it allows more people have access to more goods and services.

Tariffs are the last thing Trump's voters will want. They would raise prices of imported goods by up to a third.

Trump's plans are not fully spelt out. Some are good and some are bad. Before he joined the Republicans, he campaigned to raise income taxes on the rich back to pre-Reagan levels of 50-60%. This would also be a good plan - if he does it.

It remains to be seen whether Trump does get the economy going, or if he just plans to be a president for the billionaires' club he belongs to.

My money's on the latter. In the US, the Democrats are seen as the more fiscally responsible party. Clinton created a surplus that Bush blew with foreign wars and more tax cuts for the rich.

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Reply #26 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:27pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:23pm:

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:11pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:07pm:

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

rubbish

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory. They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

So believe in voting for the people who have done nothing for you? Grin

fkkk you're an idiot ................ so what did Trump do for them to earn their vote?

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Reply #27 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:27pm

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

Ah. They're gerrymandered, yet for some reason the democrats still took them for granted. Not very clever.

Either a rookie mistake by Hilarys campaign, complete bullshit on your part or a bit of both.

But why? What are you mad about?

Am I mad? News to me.

You on the other hand are full of complete poo.

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Reply #28 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:29pm

Marla wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:27pm:

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:56pm:

Ah. They're gerrymandered, yet for some reason the democrats still took them for granted. Not very clever.

Either a rookie mistake by Hilarys campaign, complete bullshit on your part or a bit of both.

But why? What are you mad about?

Am I mad? News to me.

You on the other hand are full of complete poo.

Cool. So the rust belt states didn't flip red and Donald Trump isn't president?

News to me.

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Re: CNN on the outer
Reply #29 - Feb 1^st, 2017 at 3:29pm

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:23pm:

... wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:11pm:

red baron wrote on Feb 1^st, 2017 at 2:07pm:

Trump's campaign resonated in areas of America which have been left to die on the vine by the Democrats.

rubbish

The so called "rust belt" states were the ones that flipped to Trump, delivering him victory. They weren't even visited by the Clinton campaign because they took them for granted.

Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

they flipped to trump because he was different. He wasn't a politician. they turned to him in desperation ............. but doing things in desperation often leads you into more trouble.

Okay. So why would they be in "desperation" if their needs and concerns had been addressed by the previous administration?

their needs and concerns hadn't been met by ANY administration, democrat or republic.

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