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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban' Reply #105 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:52am you might want to be Donald horseboy but I wouldn't swap a single day with him.
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Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Reply #106 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:02am

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

seems trump has pissed off some big players with his ban

Donald Trump faces major tech company backlash over travel ban

Silicon Valley has always kept at arm's length from the political realms of the US, but that's all starting to change.
So what's actually happened?

More than 100 tech businesses have stated their opposition to US President Donald Trump's immigration ban.

The companies have voiced their concerns over Mr Trump's executive order on banning people from seven Muslim-majority nations.

They say it's discriminatory and would have a negative impact on business.
Why is this such a big deal?

First, there are some pretty big names on the list of 127 companies, all of which account for thousands of employees throughout the United States and beyond.

Second, it's not just a petition.

What started out as just a few comments from tech industry leaders has now gone on to become a brief in the court case which will decide the fate of Mr Trump's travel ban.

The suit originally brought by Washington and Minnesota resulted in a nationwide hold on the ban.

They have filed what's called an "amicus brief", which is a legal document submitted to a court by non-litigants with a strong interest in the subject matter.

They are used to give additional information or arguments that courts can consider when making a decision.

Part of the brief reads:

"The Order represents a significant departure from the principles of fairness and predictability that have governed the immigration system of the United States for more than 50 years — and the Order inflicts significant harm on American business, innovation, and growth as a result.
The Order makes it more difficult and expensive for US companies to recruit, hire, and retain some of the world's best employees. It disrupts ongoing business operations.
And it threatens companies' ability to attract talent, business, and investment to the United States."

The brief also highlighted their concerns about the ban being expanded and lengthened from 90 days.

It also follows a meeting between Mr Trump and Silicon Valley executives last December to smooth over frictions ahead of his inauguration.
What companies have joined the list?

The big ones.

Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, LinkedIn and Twitter are on the list.

Other companies include eBay, Etsy, Airbnb, Dropbox, Netflix, Pinterest, Reddit, Yelp, Spotify, PayPal and Mozilla.

Some have taken it one step further with Airbnb launching a Super Bowl ad campaign with the hashtag #weaccept in a direct response to the travel ban.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-07/tech-company-backlash-over-trump-travel-ba...

good on em.

Trump is certainly making some pretty powerful enemies.

and gaining some powerful friends.

Like who? The Speaker of the British Parliament has BANNED Trump from attending there. The house of commons is literally debating a motion to ban Trump from visiting the Queen. Germany can't stand him and So do most of the rest of the world. Putin loves him of course, but we all know why that is!

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Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Reply #107 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:04am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 7:43am:

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ah, back to being reactive and emotional...this is the feminine frame.

the inferior man (john smith or gweg) has 2 options when presented with the superior man (Donald Trump).

1 he can admit that Donald is superior and just dwell in his superior leadership and prosper.

2 he can admire what Trump has achieved and aspire to become more like trump ( he can go on a journey of personal development).

if the inferior man just gets all sad and mad and emotional and butt hurt, how does this help him?

What would you know about 'superior men'. You spend all day on here. Clearly you know very little about anything.

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Reply #108 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:12am

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

Migrants on benefits in Switzerland 'use money to travel back to nations they're fleeing'

ERITREAN migrants claiming asylum in Switzerland are using their welfare benefits to travel back to the danger zones they have previously fled to take a holiday

Ban them for ever. Lying, dishonest, opportunistic scum.

Thanks for that.

I would like to pop this into my 'The British leadership are idiots' but this is another mob.

There just doesn't seem to be anyone in charge of these things.

The greater the idiocy we are witnessing now, the more hard-line the Rightwing party will be that eventually captures the public mood.

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Reply #109 - Feb 8^th, 2017 at 11:58am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 8^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Frank wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

Migrants on benefits in Switzerland 'use money to travel back to nations they're fleeing'

ERITREAN migrants claiming asylum in Switzerland are using their welfare benefits to travel back to the danger zones they have previously fled to take a holiday

Ban them for ever. Lying, dishonest, opportunistic scum.

Thanks for that.

I would like to pop this into my 'The British leadership are idiots' but this is another mob.

There just doesn't seem to be anyone in charge of these things.

The greater the idiocy we are witnessing now, the more hard-line the Rightwing party will be that eventually captures the public mood.

Zakly!

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Reply #110 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am

Donald Trump: US appeals court upholds suspension of travel ban

A US federal appeals court has ruled to uphold the suspension of President Donald Trump's travel ban that restricted travellers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

Mr Trump's ban temporarily suspended the nation's refugee program and immigration from countries that have raised terrorism concerns.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/us-appeals-court-rules-on-trumps-travel-ba...

oooh, thrumpys not having a good day today. I can't wait to see what stupid tweet he comes up with in response to this. Cheesy

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39731 Gender:	Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban' Reply #111 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 5:23pm It is hard to contemplate as being realistic, but is it possible he genuinely thought that if he won the Presidency, he became a King, completely unaccountable, and an all powerful dictator whose personal edict is Holy Writ?
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Reply #112 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 6:11pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

It is hard to contemplate as being realistic, but is it possible he genuinely thought that if he won the Presidency, he became a King, completely unaccountable, and an all powerful dictator whose personal edict is Holy Writ?

You are probably right. Trump knows zip about government and has spent his entire life as an autocrat. I have no doubt that he went in believing his word is law and no one would stand in his way. He is probably going to spend the X months he is in office fuming and screaming that people wont do what he demands or believe what he says. He will either get impeached, be found incompetent or have a breakdown. any outcome is okay as long as he is GONE.

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Reply #113 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

Donald Trump: US appeals court upholds suspension of travel ban

A US federal appeals court has ruled to uphold the suspension of President Donald Trump's travel ban that restricted travellers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

Mr Trump's ban temporarily suspended the nation's refugee program and immigration from countries that have raised terrorism concerns.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/us-appeals-court-rules-on-trumps-travel-ba...

oooh, thrumpys not having a good day today. I can't wait to see what stupid tweet he comes up with in response to this. Cheesy

He will win this, trump.

It just makes sense to ban the bastards. he should ban more nationalities.

Any 'refugee' who travels back to the country he 'fled' should have his return entry permit cancelled pronto. Family reunion back in the old country.

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Big Donger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101699	Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban' Reply #114 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:16am I say, old boy, how about the Danes? Should he ban them too? Anyone for herring?
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Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Reply #115 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:25am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

It is hard to contemplate as being realistic, but is it possible he genuinely thought that if he won the Presidency, he became a King, completely unaccountable, and an all powerful dictator whose personal edict is Holy Writ?

You are probably right. Trump knows zip about government and has spent his entire life as an autocrat. I have no doubt that he went in believing his word is law and no one would stand in his way. He is probably going to spend the X months he is in office fuming and screaming that people wont do what he demands or believe what he says. He will either get impeached, be found incompetent or have a breakdown. any outcome is okay as long as he is GONE.

Either that, or he could learn.

Pretty expensive learning curve though, eh? Thousands detained, federal circuit and appeals courts tied up, and government lawyers galore - all so Trump could have a "victory" in his first month in office.

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Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Reply #116 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

Donald Trump: US appeals court upholds suspension of travel ban

A US federal appeals court has ruled to uphold the suspension of President Donald Trump's travel ban that restricted travellers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

Mr Trump's ban temporarily suspended the nation's refugee program and immigration from countries that have raised terrorism concerns.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/us-appeals-court-rules-on-trumps-travel-ba...

oooh, thrumpys not having a good day today. I can't wait to see what stupid tweet he comes up with in response to this. Cheesy

He will win this, trump.

It just makes sense to ban the bastards. he should ban more nationalities.

Any 'refugee' who travels back to the country he 'fled' should have his return entry permit cancelled pronto. Family reunion back in the old country.

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

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Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Reply #117 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

Donald Trump: US appeals court upholds suspension of travel ban

A US federal appeals court has ruled to uphold the suspension of President Donald Trump's travel ban that restricted travellers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

Mr Trump's ban temporarily suspended the nation's refugee program and immigration from countries that have raised terrorism concerns.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/us-appeals-court-rules-on-trumps-travel-ba...

oooh, thrumpys not having a good day today. I can't wait to see what stupid tweet he comes up with in response to this. Cheesy

He will win this, trump.

It just makes sense to ban the bastards. he should ban more nationalities.

Any 'refugee' who travels back to the country he 'fled' should have his return entry permit cancelled pronto. Family reunion back in the old country.

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

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Re: The Truth About Trump's 'Muslim Ban'
Reply #118 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:49am

Richdude wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

Donald Trump: US appeals court upholds suspension of travel ban

A US federal appeals court has ruled to uphold the suspension of President Donald Trump's travel ban that restricted travellers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

Mr Trump's ban temporarily suspended the nation's refugee program and immigration from countries that have raised terrorism concerns.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/us-appeals-court-rules-on-trumps-travel-ba...

oooh, thrumpys not having a good day today. I can't wait to see what stupid tweet he comes up with in response to this. Cheesy

He will win this, trump.

It just makes sense to ban the bastards. he should ban more nationalities.

Any 'refugee' who travels back to the country he 'fled' should have his return entry permit cancelled pronto. Family reunion back in the old country.

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

VET... your own word. But Trumps idea was nothing more than a BLANKET BAN. do you even know the difference?

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Ban Everyone, then admit only who you see fit!
Reply #119 - Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 7:49am:

Richdude wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:52am:

Big Donger wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 2:28am:

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 12:48am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

Donald Trump: US appeals court upholds suspension of travel ban

A US federal appeals court has ruled to uphold the suspension of President Donald Trump's travel ban that restricted travellers from seven predominantly Muslim nations.

Mr Trump's ban temporarily suspended the nation's refugee program and immigration from countries that have raised terrorism concerns.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/us-appeals-court-rules-on-trumps-travel-ba...

oooh, thrumpys not having a good day today. I can't wait to see what stupid tweet he comes up with in response to this. Cheesy

He will win this, trump.

It just makes sense to ban the bastards. he should ban more nationalities.

Any 'refugee' who travels back to the country he 'fled' should have his return entry permit cancelled pronto. Family reunion back in the old country.

They're not refugees, dear. Many who were held had green cards.

You know, a bit like your visa to Australia.

Let me explain.

America has a proxy war with these countries. It makes sense to vet people coming in from these countries.

Logic confuses liberals.

VET... your own word. But Trumps idea was nothing more than a BLANKET BAN. do you even know the difference?

Whatever words you use, whatever dictionaries you use, how you parse your words, etc...etc...etc

Any Sovereign & Independent Country has the perfect & legitimate right as such, to "VET" any non-citizen, or even Citizen upon entry or reentry into the said Sovereign & Independent Country, in any way they deem fit &/or necessary for National Security.

They don't need, nor should they permit, World Intrusion, Approval, or Consensus on how to construct their laws or implement their procedures especially when dealing with potential National Security issues. One's National Security is non-negotiable, nor is it legally subject to scrutiny from any other Nation or Organization outside it's own borders.

And, in the end, if they see fit to "BAN" any group or entity, they have the perfect right to do so without any external approval.....as long as they are doing so in the best security interests of their own People/Citizens as a whole, for whom they have a complete & ultimate responsibility to.

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