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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20203 Gender:	Re: Journalists exposes voter fraud conspiracy Reply #30 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:40am: and it is also garbage. Anyone who has ever invested ALWAYS looks at past performance. it is no guarantee, but it is certainly INDICATIVE. Nope. Just imagine if you had invested in Enron, no indication it would go bust.
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Reply #31 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 2:44pm

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:14pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:40am:

and it is also garbage. Anyone who has ever invested ALWAYS looks at past performance. it is no guarantee, but it is certainly INDICATIVE.

Nope. Just imagine if you had invested in Enron, no indication it would go bust.

and imagine if you have invested in any of two million other companies whose past performance WAS indicative of future performance. While investment rules make it law to say such a thing, it is almost universally ignored because the ONLY measure we have of future success is past success. everythign else is guesswork.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20203 Gender:	Re: Journalists exposes voter fraud conspiracy Reply #32 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 2:48pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 2:44pm: While investment rules make it law to say such a thing, it is almost universally ignored because the ONLY measure we have of future success is past success. everythign else is guesswork. It is all guesswork.
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Reply #33 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:25pm

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 2:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 2:44pm:

While investment rules make it law to say such a thing, it is almost universally ignored because the ONLY measure we have of future success is past success. everythign else is guesswork.

It is all guesswork. Wink

Tell that to the rich investers like Buffet. guesswork, my ass.

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Reply #34 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:25pm:

Tell that to the rich investers like Buffet. guesswork, my ass.

Buffet does a lot of research, but he still fails.

"Warren Buffett Admits To 5 Big Mistakes"

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/warren-buffett-admits-to-5-big-mistakes-2012-2...

from 2012

"7 Investing Mistakes Warren Buffett Regrets"

https://www.gobankingrates.com/personal-finance/7-investing-mistakes-warren-buff...

in 2015

So two more errors in 3 years.

You can do the best research possible on what is publicly available, it ultimately is still guesswork whether an investment will succeed or not.

Of course insider trading is illegal, but it reduces the risk, not eliminates it.

Because people lie. Sometimes to pump up the price, sometimes to force a crash in the price.

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Reply #35 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:41pm

There have been just four documented cases of voter fraud in the 2016 election

No one denies that voter fraud exists. Trump's voter fraud expert is himself registered in three states.

But Trumps allegations of fraud involving millions is inconceivable. It would involve a conspiracy of hundreds of official electors all over the country.

Trump is just sore he lost the popular vote, his ego can't abide that so he throws out these allegations to soothe his bruised ego

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Reply #36 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:44pm

Raven wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:41pm:

No one denies that voter fraud exists.

Tapper did.

Raven wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Trump is just sore he lost the popular vote, his ego can't abide that so he throws out these allegations to soothe his bruised ego

And what of the Democrats crying fraud? Perhaps Hilary's ego couldn't handle it. Wink

Of course that was probably looking at amateur hour attempts. What about sophisticated attempts?

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Reply #37 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:53pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 7:05pm:

Raven wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

“President Trump is claiming, and the White House is reaffirming, the fiction that millions of illegal votes were cast in the 2016 election,” Tapper said at the top of his broadcast. “It is, empirically, a stunning allegation for which the White House is providing no evidence. And there is a reason they are providing no evidence: There is no evidence. It is not true,” Tapper said flatly.

And Tapper knows this how?

and you claiming trump released evidence that tapper isn't aware off? Cheesy

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20203 Gender:	Re: Journalists exposes voter fraud conspiracy Reply #38 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:02pm John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:53pm: and you claiming trump released evidence that tapper isn't aware off? Nope. But both Raven and LW have admitted there was voter fraud. How was Tapper unaware?
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Reply #39 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:07pm

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:53pm:

and you claiming trump released evidence that tapper isn't aware off?

Nope. But both Raven and LW have admitted there was voter fraud. How was Tapper unaware?

tapper isn't referring to the odd person voting twice here or there, he's referring to trumps claim of 3 million votes. There has never been voter fraud anywhere near that scale before. If there were there would be a mountain of evidence. I know you like trump but you don't need to make a fool of yourself trying to defend him.

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Reply #40 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:21pm

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:25pm:

Tell that to the rich investers like Buffet. guesswork, my ass.

Buffet does a lot of research, but he still fails.

"Warren Buffett Admits To 5 Big Mistakes"

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/warren-buffett-admits-to-5-big-mistakes-2012-2...

from 2012

"7 Investing Mistakes Warren Buffett Regrets"

https://www.gobankingrates.com/personal-finance/7-investing-mistakes-warren-buff...

in 2015

So two more errors in 3 years.

You can do the best research possible on what is publicly available, it ultimately is still guesswork whether an investment will succeed or not.

Of course insider trading is illegal, but it reduces the risk, not eliminates it.

Because people lie. Sometimes to pump up the price, sometimes to force a crash in the price.

$50B is hard to ignore. He is doing a whole lot more RIGHT than WRong. and rather obviously so.

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Reply #41 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:22pm

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:53pm:

and you claiming trump released evidence that tapper isn't aware off?

Nope. But both Raven and LW have admitted there was voter fraud. How was Tapper unaware?

I believe he assumed that the reader would work out that FOUR examples of fraud - all republicans - was not in the same universe as '3-5 million' as per Trumps insane assertion.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20203 Gender:	Re: Journalists exposes voter fraud conspiracy Reply #42 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:45pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:21pm: $50B is hard to ignore. He is doing a whole lot more RIGHT than WRong. and rather obviously so. Yes. As I said he does a lot of research. It doesn't change the fact that even he can get it wrong.
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Reply #43 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:22pm:

I believe he assumed that the reader would work out that FOUR examples of fraud - all republicans - was not in the same universe as '3-5 million' as per Trumps insane assertion.

Which of course disregards the Democrats who believe in the voter fraud the other way.

So Tapper was speaking with a broad perspective that excluded the Democrats concerns?

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Reply #44 - Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:47pm

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:53pm:

and you claiming trump released evidence that tapper isn't aware off?

Nope. But both Raven and LW have admitted there was voter fraud. How was Tapper unaware?

He was addressing Trump's claims of millions of people committing fraud, never in the history of the US has this happened and it hasn't happened now. You wouldn't be able to hide that scale of fraud for long.

Trump knows this which is why he hasn't pulled the trigger on an investigation. If there was even a shred of evidence Trump would be derelict in his duties if he didn't make the investigation the number one priority of his administration. It threatens the very foundation of American democracy.

Trump spent months insulting the intelligence of Americans and getting away with it. He will continue to do so.

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