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Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy
Reply #30 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them.

Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA.

People from failed states are a total mystery.

Bingo.

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yes, I saw how effective they were against the perpetrators of 9/11 Grin

Actually....if the CIA had shared the info it got from the Saudi intelligence with the FBI, 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy Reply #31 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:09pm Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:07pm: Actually....if the CIA had shared the info it got from the Saudi intelligence with the FBI, 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened. so nothing to do with saudi intelligence then!
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Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy
Reply #32 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:09pm

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them.

Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA.

People from failed states are a total mystery.

Bingo.

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Same goes for some of the other countries. At least they have functioning security services that can share info.

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Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy
Reply #33 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:14pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

Actually....if the CIA had shared the info it got from the Saudi intelligence with the FBI, 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened.

so nothing to do with saudi intelligence then!

The inter-agency intel sharing protocols have been changed since 9/11, John.

Think hard, John. If US customs want to run a check on someone from Pakistan, KSA is can be easily done.

The counties listed in the ban, not so easily.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy Reply #34 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:20pm Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:14pm: KSA is can be easily done. wishful thinking there gordy. Depends on who the check is on ... a number of the extended royal family support the extremists ................ it all depends on who's checking on whom. .
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Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy
Reply #35 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:25pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

Of the 7 muslim countries whose citizens are now banned (including current legitimate visa holders), massive surprise [/sarc off] Saudi Arabia is left off the list. This is despite the fact that it is Jihad central and the heart of the backward Salafist ideology that drives Islamic terrorism. One is instantly reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when despite the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, no action was taken against this terrorist supporting nation, and bin Laden's own family was quietly whisked out of the US, despite the FBI's perfectly understandable desire to question them.

Trump is just confirming that he is the establishment shrill I always said he was. The establishment won't touch Saudi Arabia because they are firmly in their pocket financially. Trump is just dutifully playing along to this same song sheet - because he is a charlatan, who has no interest in shaking up the establishment like he always claims. He is the establishment, just doing more establishment stuff.

In defense of the Saudi (which I don't do very often) being able to travel to the USA, KSA has a very effective security service which cooperates with the USA, so any worrisome Saudis will probably be flagged on entry to USA.

People from failed states are a total mystery.

Bingo.

Correct answer.

yes, I saw how effective they were against the perpetrators of 9/11 Grin

Are you trying to suggest that this is only because of and in response to just 9/11?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy Reply #36 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:26pm Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:25pm: Are you trying to suggest that this is only because of and in response to just 9/11? how the fkk did you get that from my comment?
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Re: Trump's muslim ban - the hypocricy
Reply #37 - Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:34pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 29^th, 2017 at 1:14pm:

KSA is can be easily done.

wishful thinking there gordy. Depends on who the check is on ... a number of the extended royal family support the extremists ................ it all depends on who's checking on whom. .

Don't be so sure, there are 1000s of princes. One even dropped something important in chop chop square last year.

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