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Reply #15 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:48am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:42am:
Arent CIVIL rights supposed to be FOR ALL?

What was the civil rights movement in the 60s all about??

Some of you routinely miss the point while demonstrating your basic racism, sexism and general ignorance.



We are a country that does not believe in codified civil rights for anyone; so I don't see how we get to have any say about a country that does.

Anything we have to say is invalid.
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Reply #16 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am
 
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 1:44pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    Roll Eyes



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Reply #18 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    Roll Eyes


it is 100% refreshing.

A leader who puts his own countries citizens above illegals
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Reply #19 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 2:12pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    Roll Eyes


it is 100% refreshing.

A leader who puts his own countries citizens above illegals


Yes, very refreshing.....Not only a leader who puts his own country's citizens above illegals, but is taking specific steps about keeping them out, & not allowing them to come back unless they get to the back of the queue, & do it 100% legally!

Not only illegals, no it doesn't stop there, he is also taking specific steps about keeping Islamic Terrorists out too!

Protecting his people......that's partly why they hired him.......President Donald John Trump, America's Employee of the Month.

And he'll be working on the Employee of the Decade too!
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Reply #20 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:32pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:48am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 8:42am:
Arent CIVIL rights supposed to be FOR ALL?

What was the civil rights movement in the 60s all about??

Some of you routinely miss the point while demonstrating your basic racism, sexism and general ignorance.



We are a country that does not believe in codified civil rights for anyone; so I don't see how we get to have any say about a country that does.

Anything we have to say is invalid.


Thats not much of an argument. Not having a codified list of civil rights does not mean they do not exist as out near 200 years of existence proves.

And in neither case, does that prohibit or devalue our opinion on americans or their idiot President defining one group of citizens as less deserving of civil rights.
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Reply #21 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:32pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    Roll Eyes


Thats not what he is doing at all. He is putting some PEOPLE ahead of others - people that already live there.
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Reply #22 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:52pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:32pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 10:14am:
Shocking.  Finally a leader who is actually trying to put his country before that of others.   Shameful    Roll Eyes


Thats not what he is doing at all. He is putting some PEOPLE ahead of others - people that already live there.


which people?

the people who entered illegally under Obama??  Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:24pm
 
What are Civil Rights?



Quote:
Plural Noun: civil rights

The rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.


Quote:
Noun: civil rights

(law) rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality




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Definition of civil rights

the nonpolitical rights of a citizen; especially :  the rights of personal liberty guaranteed to U.S. citizens by the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution and by acts of Congress <was charged with violating the victim's civil rights>

First Known Use: circa 1614



Being we are discussing Civil Rights being preferentially defended in America, the most authoritative American definitions of Civil Rights from American sources, pertain to the Rights of  Citizens.....not to non-citizens.

Illegals (short for illegal aliens), by definition, are not citizens, therefore they are not guaranteed "Civil Rights", as defined above, anywhere in America, or to anyone but American Citizens.


Now, if you wish to define Civil Rights otherwise, then noting where the definition emanates from is particularly important, because, as we know some Countries enumerate the Rights of their citizens in their most Revered  Documents & Laws, while other Countries seem reluctant to codify their Citizen's Rights .... possibly out of fear .......fear that their government's Supreme Monarchical Power over the people may be diminished, or even, God forbid, questioned.

Countries that do not have their Citizen's Rights codified in their written law, & stated as rights, bestow, or grant rights to their citizens, but they are not actually Rights.....they are granted privileges, removable at will, by the government that granted or bestowed them.  These citizens, therefore, have no actual enforceable Civil Rights.









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Reply #24 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:53pm
 
Panther wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:24pm:
What are Civil Rights?



Quote:
Plural Noun: civil rights

The rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.


Quote:
Noun: civil rights

(law) rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality




Source:      
Merriam Websters Dictionary
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Definition of civil rights

the nonpolitical rights of a citizen; especially :  the rights of personal liberty guaranteed to U.S. citizens by the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution and by acts of Congress <was charged with violating the victim's civil rights>

First Known Use: circa 1614



Being we are discussing Civil Rights being preferentially defended in America, the most authoritative American definitions of Civil Rights from American sources, pertain to the Rights of  Citizens.....not to non-citizens.

Illegals (short for illegal aliens), by definition, are not citizens, therefore they are not guaranteed "Civil Rights", as defined above, anywhere in America, or to anyone but American Citizens.


Now, if you wish to define Civil Rights otherwise, then noting where the definition emanates from is particularly important, because, as we know some Countries enumerate the Rights of their citizens in their most Revered  Documents & Laws, while other Countries seem reluctant to codify their Citizen's Rights .... possibly out of fear .......fear that their government's Supreme Monarchical Power over the people may be diminished, or even, God forbid, questioned.







The worst thing of all is that you actually believe it. You are absolutely and unashamedly racist. You hold different rights and different vales for different ethnic groups. You are inherently and utterly racist. Worse, tstil, you are proud of that fact.
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Reply #25 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:25pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:53pm:
Panther wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 4:24pm:
What are Civil Rights?



Quote:
Plural Noun: civil rights

The rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.


Quote:
Noun: civil rights

(law) rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality




Source:      
Merriam Websters Dictionary
       Quote:
Definition of civil rights

the nonpolitical rights of a citizen; especially :  the rights of personal liberty guaranteed to U.S. citizens by the 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution and by acts of Congress <was charged with violating the victim's civil rights>

First Known Use: circa 1614



Being we are discussing Civil Rights being preferentially defended in America, the most authoritative American definitions of Civil Rights from American sources, pertain to the Rights of  Citizens.....not to non-citizens.

Illegals (short for illegal aliens), by definition, are not citizens, therefore they are not guaranteed "Civil Rights", as defined above, anywhere in America, or to anyone but American Citizens.


Now, if you wish to define Civil Rights otherwise, then noting where the definition emanates from is particularly important, because, as we know some Countries enumerate the Rights of their citizens in their most Revered  Documents & Laws, while other Countries seem reluctant to codify their Citizen's Rights .... possibly out of fear .......fear that their government's Supreme Monarchical Power over the people may be diminished, or even, God forbid, questioned.







The worst thing of all is that you actually believe it. You are absolutely and unashamedly racist. You hold different rights and different vales for different ethnic groups. You are inherently and utterly racist. Worse, tstil, you are proud of that fact.


I accept your white flag.....because rather than meaningfully & intellectually discussing the issues, you resort to name calling, a sure sign of your failure, especially when you're losing....losing bad....In poker it's called your "tell". ...

The one thing that's obvious about Left Wing Progressives like yourself, verifiable facts, like those I quote,  to your lot is like what holy water is to vampires!  ...

You think that I personally care what name you call me? Absolutely not.....You wish to call me a Racist, or a Bigot, or a homophobe, or a Xenophobe, or a Islamophobe, made up names....etc....etc.... feel free.....they've been bandied about so often by the extreme Left, that their original meanings have become totally unimportant, & have been rendered ineffectual.

The Trump victory has signaled to the World that Political Correctness is no more.....Political Correctness is dead, & calling people names no longer holds the power to claim victory, or a sense of personal moral superiority, in discussion as it once might have.

Well, NO Longer! ...

Oh, & BTW.....JFYI.....I have never, nor will I ever, do guilt.... So ......
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