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Re: Trump gag order for government scientists
Reply #15 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 1:12pm

lee wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 11:32am:

Raven is right. Archives are not the same as the actual current website.

But the current website is for the current President. Capiche?

Why would an ex-President feature on a new President's website?

It is not pedantry; it is fact. See if you can find Carter's stuff on Clinton's website.

Why are you so desperate to find fault?

Raven said all reference to climate change have been removed from the website and then you said "no, because of archives. NOW you are saying it isnt on the website because it is... archived.

You might want to try a consistent message.

You are trying very hard to NOT find fault with Trump. Why is that so? after all, it isnt hard to do.

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Reply #16 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 1:15pm

lee wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 11:01am:

but they ARENT going through PR. They are now having to be processed by the WHite house. You dont think those messages might be largely discarded and the rest politically massaged?

And you don't think disgruntled employees would issue politically massaged messages? Cheesy

okay then... so moving to australia, you think absolutely no twitter, press releases, emails or any communication outside of any government department should be permitted until it has been approved by the Prime Ministers Department.

How do you think that would work out? I can tell you now what next months unemployment figure will be 3.0%. And our trade figures? MAGNIFICENT. Crime will be down and the budget will be in surplus.

And for all you know - or CAN know - that's the truth.

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Reply #17 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 1:12pm:

Raven said all reference to climate change have been removed from the website and then you said "no, because of archives. NOW you are saying it isnt on the website because it is... archived.

You might want to try a consistent message.

Yes. Raven is absolutely correct. Of course she didn't go on to say that the pages were archived. So skewing the story. Funny that.

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Reply #18 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 4:21pm

lee wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 1:12pm:

Raven said all reference to climate change have been removed from the website and then you said "no, because of archives. NOW you are saying it isnt on the website because it is... archived.

You might want to try a consistent message.

Yes. Raven is absolutely correct. Of course she didn't go on to say that the pages were archived. So skewing the story. Funny that.

nothing funny about it at all, trumpoid.

You and pecca should go on a date and complain endlessly and pointlessly about the meaning of the word 'date'.

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Reply #19 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:

nothing funny about it at all, trumpoid.

No there's not. Really sad trying too score political points. Edit: And missing.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:

You and pecca should go on a date and complain endlessly and pointlessly about the meaning of the word 'date'.

Maybe you could date yourself and convince yourself "shut it down" means "cripple". Wink

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Reply #20 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:46pm

lee wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:

nothing funny about it at all, trumpoid.

No there's not. Really sad trying too score political points. Edit: And missing.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:

You and pecca should go on a date and complain endlessly and pointlessly about the meaning of the word 'date'.

Maybe you could date yourself and convince yourself "shut it down" means "cripple". Wink

And you could convince yourself that being such an anti-environmentalist that he wants to close the EPA is even a sane policy. Can you really support such idiocy regardless of 'cripple' or 'shut it down'? You are purposely avoiding the question while laughingly denying your absolute and clearly unquestioning support for Trumpism and its dangerous actions.

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Reply #21 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

And you could convince yourself that being such an anti-environmentalist that he wants to close the EPA is even a sane policy.

1. You know nothing about me.

2. Is "close the EPA" the same as "shut it down"? Do you have any proof this time? Apart from the media that is. You know direct quotes?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61363 Here Gender:	Re: Trump gag order for government scientists Reply #22 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:53pm Why do conservatives not believe any science produced since the 1950's that isn't about weaponry ?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20193 Gender:	Re: Trump gag order for government scientists Reply #23 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:55pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Why do conservatives not believe any science produced since the 1950's that isn't about weaponry ? Did you mean Science or "Climate Science^TM"?
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Reply #24 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:08pm

lee wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

And you could convince yourself that being such an anti-environmentalist that he wants to close the EPA is even a sane policy.

1. You know nothing about me.

2. Is "close the EPA" the same as "shut it down"? Do you have any proof this time? Apart from the media that is. You know direct quotes?

you simply MUST be peccahead out of drag. Who else would try and debate the apparent difference between "close the EPA' and 'shut down the EPA'

Of course, a simple thing to do would be to say that you oppose the removal or significant degradation of environmental protections. You wont tho. Your King Trump has told you what to think.

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Reply #25 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

lee wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

And you could convince yourself that being such an anti-environmentalist that he wants to close the EPA is even a sane policy.

1. You know nothing about me.

2. Is "close the EPA" the same as "shut it down"? Do you have any proof this time? Apart from the media that is. You know direct quotes?

Will you believe if it comes out of Trumps mouth ??

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61363 Here Gender:	Re: Trump gag order for government scientists Reply #26 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:10pm lee wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:55pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:53pm: Why do conservatives not believe any science produced since the 1950's that isn't about weaponry ? Did you mean Science or "Climate Science^TM"? Have a look at the topic it's fairly obvious.
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Reply #27 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:11pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 5:53pm:

Why do conservatives not believe any science produced since the 1950's that isn't about weaponry ?

Dont be stupid DNA. You are acting as narrow-minded and ignorant as Trump when you talk like that. Surely by now you have worked out that not all conservatives are like Trump and in fact, the vast majority are not.

BTW, a majority of scientists are actually right-wing conservatives. The left tend to be more into humanities and Gender Studies. ACtually working in the Environmental Science arena, you could call Shorten a tosser in a room of such people and be lucky to get an objection. IN a gender studies class room of course, anyone right of Lee Rhiannon is considered and enemy. It would be problematic if any of these people actually did anything of note or effect. But they dont. They largely teach other people Gender studies.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20193 Gender:	Re: Trump gag order for government scientists Reply #28 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:42pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:10pm: Have a look at the topic it's fairly obvious. You do know the EPA doesn't do Climate Science? It gets its information from NOAA, GISS, NASA etc and then repeats it. So why the screams?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20193 Gender:	Re: Trump gag order for government scientists Reply #29 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:45pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 6:09pm: Will you believe if it comes out of Trumps mouth ?? "In almost every forum" doesn't sound like he is closing it down.
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