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Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order (Read 2881 times)
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Reply #15 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 12:45pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:15am:
the American Forum is further down the board dickhead...


And you are here to deliver yet more personal abuse.
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Reply #16 - Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:09pm
 
Trump reinstated the Mexico City policy, also known as the global gag rule, which was first put in place by President Ronald Reagan in 1984.
It prohibits giving U.S. funding to international nongovernmental organizations that offer or advise on a wide range of family planning and reproductive health options if they include abortion ―
even if U.S. dollars are not specifically used for abortion-related services.


So,what affect does this actually have on abortion legislation/law/policy in America itself.?

Correct me if I am wrong but the nub issue appears to be Trump stating to overseas Organisations that "I will not give you any funding for family planning and associated issues if your advice includes abortions".

Don't we want the best advice on how to prevent conception before abortion is an option?    Do we want to include abortion as a valid method of preventing conception and family planning?  I would imagine that most of this funding is to 2nd and 3rd world countries where the current conception methods are crude (withdrawal before ejaculation) and possibly have a high failure rate - if it can bring alternate methods of conception for both men and women, surely that must be a winner?
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Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order
Reply #17 - Jan 27th, 2017 at 9:06am
 
Vic wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
Trump reinstated the Mexico City policy, also known as the global gag rule, which was first put in place by President Ronald Reagan in 1984.
It prohibits giving U.S. funding to international nongovernmental organizations that offer or advise on a wide range of family planning and reproductive health options if they include abortion ―
even if U.S. dollars are not specifically used for abortion-related services.


So,what affect does this actually have on abortion legislation/law/policy in America itself.?

Correct me if I am wrong but the nub issue appears to be Trump stating to overseas Organisations that "I will not give you any funding for family planning and associated issues if your advice includes abortions".

Don't we want the best advice on how to prevent conception before abortion is an option?    Do we want to include abortion as a valid method of preventing conception and family planning?  I would imagine that most of this funding is to 2nd and 3rd world countries where the current conception methods are crude (withdrawal before ejaculation) and possibly have a high failure rate - if it can bring alternate methods of conception for both men and women, surely that must be a winner?



You are talking common sense. But this is a Trump administration, so no common sense applies.
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Re: Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order
Reply #18 - Jan 27th, 2017 at 9:20am
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 25th, 2017 at 10:52pm:
The arrogance of the Trump administration-  men who want to control women's fertility-  wrong on so many level's. Men want to control what they don't understand and so it goes- regardless of who it hurts.


There is truth in what you wrote here.

However, when considering the national issue of abortion (not contraception) and how large a population oppose abortion, including women, it is reasonable to oppose funding out of general revenue.
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Reply #19 - Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:54pm
 
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"It's now illegal to ejaculate unless it's for reproduction"
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