it is a good question. Why would any Australian support Donald Trump and his 'america first' policies? After all, Trump will not help us and if necessary, would crush our economy in an instant if it suited his purposes - and has said as much.

So why would any patriotic australian support a president who is rapidly becoming OUR ENEMY and the enemy of many other countries as well?

So sprint and mechanic et al... please explain your traitorous support for a president who is very clearly Australia's enemy.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:21am:


Brainwashing?

Nope, can't be that.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:21am:


Do you mean treacherous ? If so, you're a tool, it's a free country and the only treachery is the shite who stabbed Abbott in the back....and the fvvkwits who support them and Turnbull.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:38am:



Jeez I hope not, Australia is run by and infested by cowards, so we would be an easy mark if we were on our own.


Plus they won't because they really need Pine Gap.

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:54am:



The lefties know which side their bread is buttered on, Trump or any other president

Because Aussies are great lovers of masturbation.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:21am:


Because he has little time for the 'victimhood' and identity politics of the left. Culturally, things have gotten so far left that almost anything can be interpreted, or reinterpreted, as 'racist', 'sexist', 'xenophobic', 'homophobic', etc. Trump has shown he has no time for this idiocy. The Overton Window is shifting and hopefully, some time in the near future, people may be able to express their concerns without being shouted down. A shift in the U.S. usually means a shift here, sometime.

Evidence of what?

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:21am:


His 'America First' mantra does not mean isolationism, but a stricter control over raising the percentage gain for the American people with this being a sensible model for every other Western nation including Australia.

I'm waiting to see by how much Trump will reduce the idiocy of spending billions each year in Foreign Aid that has been used to placate and bribe the West's Third World haters.

Trump's Aussie support would vanish if they shared some of the fallout:  how would you feel if you were locked into a job you hated because you have a pre-existing medical condition? Under Obamacare, you were free to change jobs and get health insurance regardless of any pre-existing condition but things aren't looking so good for that "benefit" anymore ...

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:23pm:


Did Einstein make sense to the average person? 

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:


No.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:



And I'm done.

AiA wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:26pm:



"And you can keep your old insurance" - Obama

How did that go, just a flat out lie?

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Agnes wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:59pm:



agnes I have seen exactly what you are claiming about others.. on this very forum..

every word you say can be directed at anyone on this forum

how do you explain that????????

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 1:02pm:

x2

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:09pm:


And the liberals

Who are not at all liberal

Its not just the aussises that support trump its the thinking world at large, and its not just Trump they are supporting its the establishment and politically correct apologetic LQBTCH left wing types that they are not supporting that underlies this great victory, as was evident with brexit and locally with Pauline and a lot more to come.
To quote a two word slogan from Julia someone "moving forward".

I don't chant misogynist, just misguided.

I wish had your superior judgment.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
Same thing happened to Pauline Hanson.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:09pm:


Old man sound bytes but that is all it is.. he hasn't done anything yet and if he ever does.. bit prem there...it is clear he didn't really want to be king of the castle, his demeanour at his swearing in belied a thousand unsaid things to me..he was persuaded by Ivanka to stand..I think he will rue the day he  was talked into this and is already feeling the effects of the massive responsibilty..this is Goverment..he cannot say "your'e fired "and go for a Maccas- as in the Apprentice..he actually has to grow a set and face the challenge..he has't got it in him..he is old, deeply ignorant, too old to learn and tired..Trump is too tired for the job.

Well obviously we're talking about people, Einstein. It would be great if parties won the majority of votes but it's not necessary.  Trump received the votes that counted; are we crying about the unfairness of a system thats been around since George Washington? Is that where we've stooped?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 1:47pm:


And as such, you were wrong.

Again.

Women coming out in their pink pussy hats in their tens of thousands for an easy target such as Trump and ignoring the plight of millions of their sisters in north Africa Saudi Arabia Yemen etc shows the double standards of the lefts. gutless.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:38am:


Its not about 'growing a pair' but the recognition that in a world where we have a huge country with enormous resources, we also have very few people to protect it. The entire purpose of a treaty is about keeping yourself safe. I thought that was obvious.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 1:11pm:

  Obama was not an ignorant incompetent..otherwise I would have.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

LOL   

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Ok bone head, accept the results, the left has had their asses kicked back into the old days, and all you say is pure speculation  based on your narrow minded outlook, get with it or get left behind.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 2:37pm:


It isnt speculation, you retarded dimwit.  Read up a bit and you will find pretty much every country in the western world is horrified by this clown.

I see the problem... you need to 'read'.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:


because they would be displaying a vastly superior style of 'football'.

One our coaches should have taken up over  a decade ago.

We should do what they are doing.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:




Basically rationality left a long time ago and didnt leave a forwarding address.

That's just typical of the leftard mentality that's being blowtorched out of existence all of the western world. When you don't like the answer to a question you just attack the messenger.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:



X 2

What you mean is, "Say something I agree with". You'll have to find yourself another dancing bear, champ. Let me suggest Mothra or John Smith.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:05pm:

The problem is you and yours alike have lost touch with reality, "pretty much every country", conceded nicely..
You nor anybody else can deny the tide of public opinion has turned against you lot and all the tantrums and hissy fits only serve to ensure the world is on the right track.

That's like a football team blaming the playing field; ie loser talk.

de terte
putin
trump
brexit
le penn
gurt wilders

people are herd animals.
herd animals thrive when they feel able to graze peacefully, safe in the knowledge that a powerful, strong , resolute, courageous, alpha male has got their back.

people have not had this sort of leadership for a while.
my sense is that there is a "refridgerator humm" of anxiety and fearfulness running thru a large percentage of the population owing to the very 'weak sauce" and 'soft cock " leaders we have had.

they dont come more soft cock then the likes of obama, blair and cameron, rudd and gillard, hollande, merkel, gorbachov and yeltsin.

people are now voting to restore people with the behaviours of the alpha male.

and not before time.

we may have left nature but our reptilian brain is still alive and well and lefties dont understand how much the mob is in a durrr state. the mob is more in a reptilian state then my quarterhorse and my kelpies who are fairly switched on.
the mob is totally disengaged, they are just being run by a lot of biological impulses and thoughts that social conditioning put in their disengaged brains.

of course it would end up this way.
only a leftard living in a fantasy world could not see this coming .

so there will be chaos.

excellent...this will force people to re engage with life.
how joyful

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:


Who is saying I hate Americans, dumbass? I very much like America and Americans. Trump however, I despise. And this basic message is something you and your fellow inmates dont seem to get. The world is not railing against America, it is railing against TRUMP.

Is that any clearer?

Johnnie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:


That doesnt even make sense. Naturally as a Trump supporter you are an illterate, ignorant clown, but surely you can at least TRY to make some sense in your rants.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

I don't think he has too many supporters in Australia: but they all recognised he had the support of the Americans who wanted change from their dire conditions as most Aussies have been to America and seen it's a big lonely place if you haven't got a job!

Getting to know who was likely to become President became important, not necessarily supporting him.

If he is going to melt the MYI then obviously he is mad, but what was the alternative?

People did support the way he told the media to smoke it.... but apart from that know one really knows what he stands for because he just lies and people recognise that a hypocrital and lying media can't call him out on anything because they have lied to the public for decades and represent the most pure form of hypocrisy imaginable.

Therefore only to throw a cat amongst the pigeons can be the only reason anyone would support him.

--> it would seem he knew his brand years ago but whether that is worth supporting is another question. Talk about a dirty world!!

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:




can you think of a better one..

you know all we do is criticise
yet someone came up with these voting ideas...
if they are old it means they were meant for another era..

come up with a far better system

you could make a fortune..

no one ever talks about change do they?

they only complain when the system appears to go against them... if your the winner the system works..lolol

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:46pm:


your hero for one


http://time.com/4532679/donald-trump-election-rigged/

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:21am:


no it is not...

and if you have to ask it just shows your ignorance..

so I'm not going to explain everything that I've put on this part of the forum over the past 12 months just because you are a johnnies come lately.. .

[color=#ff00ff][/color]Panther wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:34pm:


It's not lies; it's bull s.h.i.t.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:22pm:

longy is all false argument: the true scotsman fallacy is his favourite,... like all capital "L"iberal tryhards who think they have business acumen but are really just shysters who pretend they know something because their Dad set them up for a life of talking crappola for a bit of fun...

This country is just full of spastics in McMansions!

aquascoot wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:55pm:


Not a word.

John Smith wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 5:05pm:



Fine, but we don't have it in OZ so if you would like the US to change theirs, would you want majority vote here?

I assume you're talking about First Past the Post when you say "majority vote"

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:


We've already got Rolf Harris.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:



That'd be right, go off on a tangent

Despising Trump means also despising those who voted for him, ain't that right? millions of Americans voting for what they believe in, different to your beliefs. Trump took over the White House by himself without going through the electoral process perhaps. Is that the way you want to think about it?


Read this again longy ...
If you want to be looked upon favorable, accept the result and keep any criticism within a "friendship" paradigm.
To almost hate Americans and then crawl to them to save your ass militarily if it gets to that, what's that make you, a crawling sanctimonious hypocrite?

Pecker shredded the last of his credibility with that little stunt.

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:


I don't care what the US does. I was asked what system would be better and I gave my opinion. As far as I'm concerned the US can do what they like, I'm only interested in the entertainment value of their politics.

And majority vote means majority vote. I don't mind preferential voting, as long as the person with the most votes at the end, wins. There is something seriously wrong with democracy when the majority of people vote one way and they still lose.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:




No if you had said people voted for Trump because they are concerned about losing their jobs and think he could get them back, thats a reasonable argument to make. But the cultural Marxism drivel?


Thats why you arent taken seriously.

I hope no one has confused ridicule of Drongoes with support of Trump.