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Re: Trump faces impreachment - ALREADY
Reply #30 - Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:28pm

Panther wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Source: The United States Constitution
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Amendment XXV (1967)

Section 1.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President;

otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Pays ta read.....dunnit!?

Don't ya hate that!

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You should have tried reading it yourself. It confirms what I said and that Congress would then support the motion.

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Re: President Trump faces Impeachment? - NOT AT ALL!
Reply #31 - Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:27pm:

Yes, the 25th amendment makes Cabinet able to remove a sitting president from office due to inability to perform the duties. Now try and work out how a President as uncontrollable, thin-skinned and unqualifed as Trump might be considered 'unfit to continue'.

Not that hard to imagine and btw, this was not my idea but rather that of a senior constitutional lawyer.

So, it is another way to protect the world from this crazy bastard.

Wrong.......Sorry, you've been busted again.... ... geez, today ain't your day......your lyin' ass is down fer the count yet again!

Source: The United States Constitution
Quote:

Amendment XXV (1967)

Section 1.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President;

otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Not an interpretation, but the actual law......read it.......you're absolutely wrong. It's temporary, not permanent.

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Re: President Trump faces Impeachment? - NOT AT ALL!
Reply #32 - Jan 24^th, 2017 at 5:43pm

Panther wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:27pm:

Yes, the 25th amendment makes Cabinet able to remove a sitting president from office due to inability to perform the duties. Now try and work out how a President as uncontrollable, thin-skinned and unqualifed as Trump might be considered 'unfit to continue'.

Not that hard to imagine and btw, this was not my idea but rather that of a senior constitutional lawyer.

So, it is another way to protect the world from this crazy bastard.

Wrong.......Sorry, you've been busted again....http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/busted.gif ... geez, today ain't your day......your lyin' ass is down fer the count yet again!

Source: The United States Constitution
Quote:

Amendment XXV (1967)

Section 1.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President;

otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Not an interpretation, but the actual law......read it.......you're absolutely wrong. It's temporary, not permanent.

Damn, you really are stupid. It states that the PResident can be removed if unfit for office until he becomes 'fit' again. If Trump were removed under that provision he would remain 'unfit' as he is incapable of change.

And once again, this is a constitutional authority speaking, not someone with access to Google.

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Re: President Trump faces Impeachment? - NOT AT ALL!
Reply #33 - Jan 24^th, 2017 at 6:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

Panther wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 4:27pm:

Yes, the 25th amendment makes Cabinet able to remove a sitting president from office due to inability to perform the duties. Now try and work out how a President as uncontrollable, thin-skinned and unqualifed as Trump might be considered 'unfit to continue'.

Not that hard to imagine and btw, this was not my idea but rather that of a senior constitutional lawyer.

So, it is another way to protect the world from this crazy bastard.

Wrong.......Sorry, you've been busted again....http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/busted.gif ... geez, today ain't your day......your lyin' ass is down fer the count yet again!

Source: The United States Constitution
Quote:

Amendment XXV (1967)

Section 1.

In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President;

otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Not an interpretation, but the actual law......read it.......you're absolutely wrong. It's temporary, not permanent.

Damn, you really are stupid. It states that the PResident can be removed if unfit for office until he becomes 'fit' again. If Trump were removed under that provision he would remain 'unfit' as he is incapable of change.

And once again, this is a constitutional authority speaking, not someone with access to Google.

Unless your unnamed "Constitutional Authority" is the SCOTUS, they have no Constitutional Authority, or the authority to have any final say on Constitution matters. All they have is an opinion, which weighs no more, no less than ours....period.

So, Damn.... if I'm stupid, you're irreversibly brain dead .....nowhere in this Amendment does it provide for a "removal" of a President!

Any replacement is only temporary, an acting President, unless the incapacity is so grave it is beyond being overcome (as in death...Trump's good, but...), which has never happened. Whenever the President determines he is fit is fit to return to duty, he will return replacing the acting President.

This is, & was, the reasoning behind this 25^th Amendment (do your research), not "removal" of a sitting President, & if necessary the Supreme Court will have the very final say, for the Supreme Court is the only body/group that can interpret the Constitution with any final authority.....Not Congress, not the VP, not any Cabinet, not any person. So if the Supreme Court wishes to decide that any Amendment reads any way it wishes it to read, it can, & nothing short of insurrection culminating in a firing squad can stop them.

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Re: Trump faces impreachment - ALREADY
Reply #34 - Jan 24^th, 2017 at 6:29pm

Geez, I left that wide open......Now you be creating some fantasy that the SCOTUS will conspire to "remove" the President. As I said, it's possible, but only you could find the logic for them to want to do it!

Far fetched?? Not really....

So far you suggested that his hand picked Cabinet can do it.......with the help of his hand picked VP.

Then you seem to allude to that a conspiring Republican Congress can do it, along with the VP!

So, why not the Pope in concert with the SCOTUS & Inspector Clouseau!?

You need to stop watching those Pink Panther reruns!!!

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Reply #36 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 3:58pm

Donald Trump blasts department store Nordstrom for dropping Ivanka's line, raising new concern on business ties

US President Donald Trump's Twitter attack on Nordstrom for dropping his daughter Ivanka's clothing line has raised concerns about the use of his White House platform for his family's businesses.

n response to the Twitter comment Mr Trump posted criticising the department store, White House spokesman Sean Spicer characterised the company's action as a "direct attack" on the president's policies.

"My daughter Ivanka has been treated so unfairly by @Nordstrom. She is a great person — always pushing me to do the right thing! Terrible!" Mr Trump tweeted.

It was re-tweeted more than 6,000 times in less than an hour, including from the official, taxpayer-funded @POTUS account.

Nordstrom shares dropped 0.7 per cent after the tweet but later recovered to trade up 3.7 per cent on the New York Stock Exchange.

Nordstrom said its decision to drop Ivanka Trump branded merchandise from its stores and online was based on the brand's performance.

"Over the past year, and particularly in the last half of 2016, sales of the brand have steadily declined to the point where it didn't make good business sense for us to continue with the line for now."

Nordstrom said it informed Ivanka Trump about its decision in early January.

A day after Nordstrom's statement, luxury retailer Neiman Marcus Group also said it had stopped selling Ivanka Trump's jewellery line on its website and a store in New Jersey, according to Yahoo News.

The move by the retailers comes amid an ongoing campaign called #GrabYourWallet, which encourages shoppers to boycott products with ties to President Trump, his family and his donors.

'Totally inappropriate': Democrats flag ethics office

The President's comments underscore the complicated relationship that the wealthy New York real estate developer has with his sprawling family business interests amid criticism from Democrats and others about the ethics and legality of the arrangement.

During a White House briefing, Mr Spicer painted Nordstrom's action as an attack on the President's daughter.

"For someone to take out their concern with his policies on a family member of his is just not acceptable — the President has every right as a father to stand up to them," Mr Spicer said.

Ivanka Trump ran a clothing and jewellery business bearing her name, in addition to other work for the Trump Organisation, before saying she would resign when her father was sworn in as president last month.

A spokeswoman for the Ivanka Trump brand declined to comment.

The Republican President's complaint, however, drew swift criticism from Democrats.

US House of Representatives' minority leader Nancy Pelosi said the tweet was inappropriate, but that it was typical of Mr Trump.

"I think it's inappropriate, but he's a totally inappropriate President, so it's totally in keeping with who he is," Ms Pelosi said.

"What I think is more inappropriate, though, is for him to refer to a judge who made a ruling that he didn't agree with as a 'so-called judge'. Now we're talking about the separation of power, not the thin skin of an incompetent president," she said.

Senator Bob Casey, a Democrat, in a tweet indicated that the matter should be referred to the Office of Government Ethics.

The President has declined to sell off his businesses despite calls to do so from critics, instead turning his empire over to his adult sons.

Mr Trump's web of international companies remains a bit opaque since he has refused to release his tax returns, which experts have said would provide a clearer view of his business interests.

Since winning the US presidential election on November 8, Mr Trump has targeted specific companies on Twitter. But this is his first tweet criticising a business tied to his family since the victory.

It is also not the first time Mr Trump's tweets have at least temporarily affected a stock.

US carmakers, Boeing and Carrier have also suffered after his comments on Twitter.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-09/donald-trump-tweets-that-nordstrom-treated...

tick tock dickhead, your impeachment is fast approaching. Cheesy

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump faces impreachment - ALREADY Reply #38 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 4:10pm ... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 4:05pm: What kind of monster sticks up for his daughter? he's having a tantrum, not sticking up for her. As a businessman trump should understand that if a product isn't selling, it goes.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151124 Gender:	Re: Trump faces impreachment - ALREADY Reply #39 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 4:11pm ... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 4:05pm: What kind of monster sticks up for his daughter? Up, or it up?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Trump faces impreachment - ALREADY Reply #40 - Feb 9^th, 2017 at 4:21pm another day, another tantrum.
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Reply #41 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:37am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 12:13am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 6:22pm:

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"What is unconstitutional is for anyone holding a position of trust within the United States Government to be receiving profits and other benefits from dealing with foreign governments and companies controlled by foreign governments," Mr Painter told 7.30.

Unconstitutional? Yes, according to Mr Painter. He says other constitutional lawyers support his view.

So why are the lefties silent about the Saudis and Qatar giving money to Hillary, did they buy the DemocRATS to help with the sunni vs shia war in Yemen?

Since Clinton isn't President its irrelevant, we're talking about the current Presidents misdemeanours.

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Reply #42 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:38am

John Smith wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 4:10pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2017 at 4:05pm:

What kind of monster sticks up for his daughter?

he's having a tantrum, not sticking up for her.

As a businessman trump should understand that if a product isn't selling, it goes.

PLus he has to get on with the fact, he is no longer a businessman.

Interesting to see Kellyanne Conway may have broken the law over this today.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump faces impreachment - ALREADY Reply #43 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:05am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:38am: Interesting to see Kellyanne Conway may have broken the law over this today. I think thrump is incapable of separating his business/private life from his role as president. That then leads to his minions crossing boundaries they shouldn't cross.
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Reply #44 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:07am

John Smith wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 9:05am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 10^th, 2017 at 8:38am:

Interesting to see Kellyanne Conway may have broken the law over this today.

I think thrump is incapable of separating his business/private life from his role as president.

That then leads to his minions crossing boundaries they shouldn't cross.

Indeed, from what I saw on 4 corners, I also wouldn't be surprised if its also cause he doesn't have complete faith in his kids to run the business

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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