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Reply #90 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:43am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:27am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:57am:
All arguably true... But I was talking about acknowledging the existence of an American empire, not whether its a good or bad thing...


Rented Empire.

You forgot to say "rented empire".

Almost all of their bases are rented from the local governments.

Germany, Turkey ... etc.

'Rented' in the sense of a Scientology-esque '1 billion year contract'... The landlord doesn't get his property back in this peculiar case of tenancy...
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Reply #92 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:47am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:08am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 11:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 11:28pm:
The Roman Empire fell apart. The Holy Roman Empire fell apart (thanks, Napoleon!), the Third Reich fell apart, the Soviet Empire fell apart.  Time for the European Union to fall apart.

They always over-reach.


You forgot the Ottoman Empire, the (short-lived) Japanese Empire, the British Empire, the Soviet Union...

All empires overreach...

In the case of imperial overreach, the big question of our times is not 'has the EU overreached' but has the American Empire done so?

But, back to the OP... I'm starting to see that Trump's clownish deflections (does he really care that much about numbers?) may be a parody of a parody - A real life Michael Rimmer as in the Peter Cook comedy, 'The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer'...

The movie's plot is remarkably 'Trumpian'... Distract and irritate the people and the media with endless inanities and ultimately deceive them into handing him autocratic power...




There is no American Empire. 



But there's an EU one?


you fool.
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Reply #93 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:51am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:29am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:23am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:02am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:57am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:51am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:46am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:45am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 10:38pm:
Anyway, elsewhere in the world his inauguration is greeted:

Le Pen said:

"We are living through the end of one world, and the birth of another. We are experiencing the return of nation-states. 2016 was the year the Anglo-Saxon world woke up. 2017, I am sure, will be the year in which the peoples of the European continent rise up."

Wilders added:

"The world is changing. America is changing. Europe is changing. It started last year with Brexit, yesterday there was Trump and today the freedom-loving parties gathered in Koblenz are making a stand. The genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not. The people of the West are awakening. They are throwing off the yoke of political correctness."
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9810/trump-europe-establishment


That's what matters: the genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not.


Music to our ears.

Nationalism is at last beginning to come out of the coma that Leftwing politicians put it into somewhere around the mid-'50's.

Not Hitler's expansionist nationalism, but a reclaiming of ones own homeland from 60 years of inviting the Third World to colonise the West as ghetto communities.

I'm sick of hearing Arabic being yelled across the rooftops.



Bulldust: nationalism is a natural reaction to failing economics!
not always muppet.


Always. We're in the political climate we're in because of the GFC, just as the Great Depression ushered in fascism.
There was nationalism a thousand years ago before complex economic systems.


There were no nations or nationalism before capitalism, Homo.
Rome, Carthage , Persia were just the same.


They were not the same. These empires were merely strong armies that invaded and occupied foreign territories.

The concept of a sovereign nation goes back to the post-Napoleonic era. Previously, the world was ruled (and divvied up) by monarchs.
We could ague all day and night about it. So  do you still believe nationalism come purely out of bad economic situations?? Huh


No, hyper- nationalism, or fascism, can only come out of bad economic situations. Nationalist or racial-supremacists are rarely rich and powerful, Homo.

As you well know.
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Reply #94 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:18pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:18am:
Up to a point, North, sure. But military bases aren't usually used to police the countries they're in. The US doesn't use its German, Japanese or Australian bases to hold Germany, Japan or Australia.

The US currently doesn't need to... It would be 'unthinkable' for Germany, Japan or Australia to eject the US...

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:18am:
The US "empire" is not based on military force and occupation but, predominantly, bi-lateral trade, finance and development deals. There is also a lot of soft power used - something other countries don't have.

There are currently 400 US military bases surrounding China... That's some display of 'soft' power!

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Reply #95 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 2:20pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:29am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:23am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:02am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:57am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:51am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:46am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:45am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 10:38pm:
Anyway, elsewhere in the world his inauguration is greeted:

Le Pen said:

"We are living through the end of one world, and the birth of another. We are experiencing the return of nation-states. 2016 was the year the Anglo-Saxon world woke up. 2017, I am sure, will be the year in which the peoples of the European continent rise up."

Wilders added:

"The world is changing. America is changing. Europe is changing. It started last year with Brexit, yesterday there was Trump and today the freedom-loving parties gathered in Koblenz are making a stand. The genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not. The people of the West are awakening. They are throwing off the yoke of political correctness."
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9810/trump-europe-establishment


That's what matters: the genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not.


Music to our ears.

Nationalism is at last beginning to come out of the coma that Leftwing politicians put it into somewhere around the mid-'50's.

Not Hitler's expansionist nationalism, but a reclaiming of ones own homeland from 60 years of inviting the Third World to colonise the West as ghetto communities.

I'm sick of hearing Arabic being yelled across the rooftops.



Bulldust: nationalism is a natural reaction to failing economics!
not always muppet.


Always. We're in the political climate we're in because of the GFC, just as the Great Depression ushered in fascism.
There was nationalism a thousand years ago before complex economic systems.


There were no nations or nationalism before capitalism, Homo.
Rome, Carthage , Persia were just the same.


They were not the same. These empires were merely strong armies that invaded and occupied foreign territories.

The concept of a sovereign nation goes back to the post-Napoleonic era. Previously, the world was ruled (and divvied up) by monarchs.
We could ague all day and night about it. So  do you still believe nationalism come purely out of bad economic situations?? Huh


No, hyper- nationalism, or fascism, can only come out of bad economic situations. Nationalist or racial-supremacists are rarely rich and powerful, Homo.

As you well know.
In Serbia it was  hundreds of years of ethnic tension that ticked it off for them . The Germans because the Jews started to take over etc etc. Ethnic tension is behind all nationalism and economic situations tick it off. It isn't the other way around.
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Reply #97 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 2:59pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:44am:
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Reply #98 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 3:00pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 1:18pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:18am:
Up to a point, North, sure. But military bases aren't usually used to police the countries they're in. The US doesn't use its German, Japanese or Australian bases to hold Germany, Japan or Australia.

The US currently doesn't need to... It would be 'unthinkable' for Germany, Japan or Australia to eject the US...

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:18am:
The US "empire" is not based on military force and occupation but, predominantly, bi-lateral trade, finance and development deals. There is also a lot of soft power used - something other countries don't have.

There are currently 400 US military bases surrounding China... That's some display of 'soft' power!



You tell him. North.
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Reply #99 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 4:54pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 2:20pm:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:51am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:29am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:23am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 11:02am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:57am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:51am:
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:48am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:46am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:45am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 10:38pm:
Anyway, elsewhere in the world his inauguration is greeted:

Le Pen said:

"We are living through the end of one world, and the birth of another. We are experiencing the return of nation-states. 2016 was the year the Anglo-Saxon world woke up. 2017, I am sure, will be the year in which the peoples of the European continent rise up."

Wilders added:

"The world is changing. America is changing. Europe is changing. It started last year with Brexit, yesterday there was Trump and today the freedom-loving parties gathered in Koblenz are making a stand. The genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not. The people of the West are awakening. They are throwing off the yoke of political correctness."
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9810/trump-europe-establishment


That's what matters: the genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not.


Music to our ears.

Nationalism is at last beginning to come out of the coma that Leftwing politicians put it into somewhere around the mid-'50's.

Not Hitler's expansionist nationalism, but a reclaiming of ones own homeland from 60 years of inviting the Third World to colonise the West as ghetto communities.

I'm sick of hearing Arabic being yelled across the rooftops.



Bulldust: nationalism is a natural reaction to failing economics!
not always muppet.


Always. We're in the political climate we're in because of the GFC, just as the Great Depression ushered in fascism.
There was nationalism a thousand years ago before complex economic systems.


There were no nations or nationalism before capitalism, Homo.
Rome, Carthage , Persia were just the same.


They were not the same. These empires were merely strong armies that invaded and occupied foreign territories.

The concept of a sovereign nation goes back to the post-Napoleonic era. Previously, the world was ruled (and divvied up) by monarchs.
We could ague all day and night about it. So  do you still believe nationalism come purely out of bad economic situations?? Huh


No, hyper- nationalism, or fascism, can only come out of bad economic situations. Nationalist or racial-supremacists are rarely rich and powerful, Homo.

As you well know.
In Serbia it was  hundreds of years of ethnic tension that ticked it off for them . The Germans because the Jews started to take over etc etc. Ethnic tension is behind all nationalism and economic situations tick it off. It isn't the other way around.


No, in Serbia it was the dissolution of the USSR and the loss of former markets. In Germany, it was the Great Depression and the burden of its war reparations.

In your own case, it's the loss of manufacturing jobs in Western Sydney and your unsuccessful transition to the service economy.

Ethnic tension does not exist as a thing in itself. It must be sparked. If there were no ethnicities, people would find other reasons to fight when their economic conditions are threatened.
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If Trump wins, I will leave this forum forever.

I guarantee it.



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Reply #101 - Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:36pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 3:42pm:
Yesterdays  march...millions marched against Trump- not just in washington but globally..



... because we all know the problems only began on the 20th of January.   Roll Eyes
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"Donald Trump ... gained nearly three million fewer votes than his opponent.

"The margin of 2.86 million ballots was the biggest popular vote disparity in US history for a candidate who has gone on to become President, significantly greater than the 544,000-vote gap between George W Bush and Al Gore in 2000."

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Reply #103 - Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:43pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:03am:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 10:03am:
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America First - and the pink-haired Americans get triggered.
No illegal immigration - triggered.
Time for empty talk is over - triggered.
American carnage’ of gangs, drugs stops now - triggered.
A nation exists to serve its citizens - triggered.
Loyalty to their own country - triggered.


They reacted to the election of Reagan in a very similar way. A hundred years earlier the election of Lincoln triggered the Civil War.

Lincoln, Reagan, Trump - Republicans. The millions of Americans who didn't vote for Obama  (ie republicans) didn't make such clowns of themselves.



And of course it's the same elsewhere - Thatcher, Fraser, Howard, Abbott - the Left gets very emotional and triggered when they are defeated at elections. They only like democracy if they get elected, otherwise they go apeshite.

What is it about the Left? Why so emotionally unstable?



Many of the protesters didn't even vote.



Why not?? They couldn't be fagged to vote in a secret ballot but they are keen to virtue signal and carry on like idiots in the streets.

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/7c8876f1b66a9c825b7b3cac2a1ccaef?.jpg



Karnal is sarcastic.



He is not sarcastic. He is stating a fact.



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Reply #104 - Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:38pm:
"Donald Trump ... gained nearly three million fewer votes than his opponent.

"The margin of 2.86 million ballots was the biggest popular vote disparity in US history for a candidate who has gone on to become President, significantly greater than the 544,000-vote gap between George W Bush and Al Gore in 2000."

Grin Grin Grin



Clinton has been in American politics for 30 years, she got more votes an still lost.

Who would want someone like THAT as president???


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