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Reply #30 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:38pm

Agnes wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 5:31pm:

The man is a combative fool. The worst example I can find of a President absolutely determined to put everybody offside from day one. Can you imagine the idiocy of spending the very first press conference to lamblast and abuse the media? The media is essential to any government in getting its message across and gaining support. All he has done is create absolutely implacable enemies that will never support him, actively oppose him and destroy his presidency.

The man is an absolute clown, the likes we have not seen before.

I find his behaviour not simply disgraceful but astonishingly foolish. He will end up impeached for sure, because his party already doesnt like him and he does nothing but create enemies.

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Reply #31 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 8:34pm

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:19pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Bigger than both of Clinton's though ...

Bill Clinton, 1997 - 250,000
Clinton, 1993 - 800,000

Not anymore. By using his first press briefing to throw a hissy fit about press reporting on the size of his crowd, Trump's just gone down in history as the world's biggest w@nker.

As if numbers are going to matter now.

By the way, Black, they don't sell tickets. The numbers quoted are estimates by journalists.

He is putting the media on notice from day one that misrepresentation and anti-Trump bias is noticed and is not tolerated.

This is the media that has relentless written him off as a no-chance for the nomination and then a no-chance to win the presidency. It is the media, after all, that was near unanimous about pegging his chances to be elected around the 10% mark. Bollocking them on day one is the least he could do. Now he is president and the first thing he is telling the media is to either stop the slanting or he will deny them access - see CNN.

And quite right too. He doesn't have to go along with the all-too-obvious slanting of the mainstream media reporting. He knows how the media works and he is telling them that he is onto them, from day one. The media has been sticking it to him in quite a hostile way, now it was his turn to give them a huge bollocking. Go Trump.

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Reply #32 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 9:08pm

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 8:34pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:19pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Bigger than both of Clinton's though ...

Bill Clinton, 1997 - 250,000
Clinton, 1993 - 800,000

Not anymore. By using his first press briefing to throw a hissy fit about press reporting on the size of his crowd, Trump's just gone down in history as the world's biggest w@nker.

As if numbers are going to matter now.

By the way, Black, they don't sell tickets. The numbers quoted are estimates by journalists.

He is putting the media on notice from day one that misrepresentation and anti-Trump bias is noticed and is not tolerated.

This is the media that has relentless written him off as a no-chance for the nomination and then a no-chance to win the presidency. It is the media, after all, that was near unanimous about pegging his chances to be elected around the 10% mark. Bollocking them on day one is the least he could do. Now he is president and the first thing he is telling the media is to either stop the slanting or he will deny them access - see CNN.

And quite right too. He doesn't have to go along with the all-too-obvious slanting of the mainstream media reporting. He knows how the media works and he is telling them that he is onto them, from day one. The media has been sticking it to him in quite a hostile way, now it was his turn to give them a huge bollocking. Go Trump.

Chucking a hissy fit and crying about the media was just stupid and made them look small - again.

It is not the media's fault that Trump is a clown.

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Reply #33 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 9:13pm

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 8:34pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:19pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Bigger than both of Clinton's though ...

Bill Clinton, 1997 - 250,000
Clinton, 1993 - 800,000

Not anymore. By using his first press briefing to throw a hissy fit about press reporting on the size of his crowd, Trump's just gone down in history as the world's biggest w@nker.

As if numbers are going to matter now.

By the way, Black, they don't sell tickets. The numbers quoted are estimates by journalists.

He is putting the media on notice from day one that misrepresentation ...

There's no misrepresentation.

The alleged child rapist is a compulsive lair.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61363 Here Gender:	Re: Biggest ever inaugural crowd? No, but... Reply #34 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 9:24pm Quote: Biggest ever inaugural crowd? No, but... Maybe not but certainly by far the biggest anti President rallies ever, in fact I can't think of another President where there was an anti president Rally on day 1.
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Reply #35 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:05pm

America First - and the pink-haired Americans get triggered.
No illegal immigration - triggered.
Time for empty talk is over - triggered.
American carnage’ of gangs, drugs stops now - triggered.
A nation exists to serve its citizens - triggered.
Loyalty to their own country - triggered.

They reacted to the election of Reagan in a very similar way. A hundred years earlier the election of Lincoln triggered the Civil War.

Lincoln, Reagan, Trump - Republicans. The millions of Americans who didn't vote for Obama (ie republicans) didn't make such clowns of themselves.

And of course it's the same elsewhere - Thatcher, Fraser, Howard, Abbott - the Left gets very emotional and triggered when they are defeated at elections. They only like democracy if they get elected, otherwise they go apeshite.

What is it about the Left? Why so emotionally unstable?

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Biggest ever inaugural crowd? No, but... Reply #36 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:22pm Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:05pm: The millions of Americans who didn't vote for Obama (ie republicans) didn't make such clowns of themselves. Trump himself (for years insisting Obama was a foreigner)? The Tea party? The 'Birthers'?
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Reply #37 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:38pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:22pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:05pm:

The millions of Americans who didn't vote for Obama (ie republicans) didn't make such clowns of themselves.

Trump himself (for years insisting Obama was a foreigner)? The Tea party? The 'Birthers'?

Not at his inauguration.

Anyway, elsewhere in the world his inauguration is greeted:

Le Pen said:

"We are living through the end of one world, and the birth of another. We are experiencing the return of nation-states. 2016 was the year the Anglo-Saxon world woke up. 2017, I am sure, will be the year in which the peoples of the European continent rise up."

Wilders added:

"The world is changing. America is changing. Europe is changing. It started last year with Brexit, yesterday there was Trump and today the freedom-loving parties gathered in Koblenz are making a stand. The genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not. The people of the West are awakening. They are throwing off the yoke of political correctness."
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9810/trump-europe-establishment

That's what matters: the genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not.

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Reply #38 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:05pm

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:38pm:

Le Pen said:

"We are living through the end of one world, and the birth of another. We are experiencing the return of nation-states. 2016 was the year the Anglo-Saxon world woke up. 2017, I am sure, will be the year in which the peoples of the European continent rise up."

That's what matters: the genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not.

Irony much?

The birth of a new world by returning to what it once was?

If Le pen is right, then its not a birth but a reincarnation!

It seems that genies can go back into bottles, if only to reinvent themselves using old world ideas and reemerge as an atavist of the old masquerading as the new.

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Reply #39 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:28pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:05pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 10:38pm:

Le Pen said:

"We are living through the end of one world, and the birth of another. We are experiencing the return of nation-states. 2016 was the year the Anglo-Saxon world woke up. 2017, I am sure, will be the year in which the peoples of the European continent rise up."

That's what matters: the genie will not go back into the bottle again, whether you like it or not.

Irony much?

The birth of a new world by returning to what it once was?

If Le pen is right, then its not a birth but a reincarnation!

It seems that genies can go back into bottles, if only to reinvent themselves using old world ideas and reemerge as an atavist of the old masquerading as the new.

The Roman Empire fell apart. The Holy Roman Empire fell apart (thanks, Napoleon!), the Third Reich fell apart, the Soviet Empire fell apart. Time for the European Union to fall apart.

They always over-reach.

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Reply #40 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:34pm

Spicer said blatantly untrue things in his press conference. But that is just par for the course for this administration.

Trump spent months insulting the intelligence of Americans and got away with it. So why shouldn't Spicer insult their intelligence.

He said magnetometers kept crowds off the Mall in Washington (not true) and that newfangled, never-before-used ground coverings made the empty spaces look more sparse (also not true).

Spicer added that “this was the largest audience to ever witness the inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe.” (Again not true)

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Reply #41 - Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:49pm

Frank wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:28pm:

The Roman Empire fell apart. The Holy Roman Empire fell apart (thanks, Napoleon!), the Third Reich fell apart, the Soviet Empire fell apart. Time for the European Union to fall apart.

They always over-reach.

You forgot the Ottoman Empire, the (short-lived) Japanese Empire, the British Empire, the Soviet Union...

All empires overreach...

In the case of imperial overreach, the big question of our times is not 'has the EU overreached' but has the American Empire done so?

But, back to the OP... I'm starting to see that Trump's clownish deflections (does he really care that much about numbers?) may be a parody of a parody - A real life Michael Rimmer as in the Peter Cook comedy, 'The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer'...

The movie's plot is remarkably 'Trumpian'... Distract and irritate the people and the media with endless inanities and ultimately deceive them into handing him autocratic power...

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Reply #42 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 7:41am

Trump is quite the fool. Imagine being quite so foolish as to make a scene and throw a tantrum about crowd numbers!! He has significantly lower numbers and no amount of trumpish wankery will change that. To literally claim otherwise and then go on and on and on about it like a small child is appallingly juvenile.

It is hard to imagine that his presidency will survive given that pretty much everyone distrusts him - and with good reason.

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Reply #43 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 8:14am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 11:49pm:

Trump's clownish deflections (does he really care that much about numbers?) may be a parody of a parody - A real life Michael Rimmer as in the Peter Cook comedy, 'The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer'...

The movie's plot is remarkably 'Trumpian'... Distract and irritate the people and the media with endless inanities and ultimately deceive them into handing him autocratic power...

And the Rimmer parody continues... And throw Orwellianism into the plot... 'Alternative' facts?

Will Conway's defence one day be 'I was only following orders'?

The US and the world are being taken for ride...

Trump administration had presented “alternative facts” to counter low inauguration crowd estimates.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/white-house-senior-adviser-kellyanne...

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Biggest ever inaugural crowd? No, but... Reply #44 - Jan 23^rd, 2017 at 8:25am Melanias purse wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2017 at 7:19pm: [quote By the way, Black, they don't sell tickets. The numbers quoted are estimates by journalists. Exactly ... and we all know there's no political bias in the media, don't we? Own goal.
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