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Reply #30 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:15pm

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:19am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:07am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:01am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Where is sprint and mechanic? They are so in love with trump and he just told them to F-off!

So usa dumps the trade deal and China already has one in place and so everyone will simply join that and USA will be left out.

He can put 45% tariffs on all he wants but he seems to forget 30% of his cars from his own auto industry comes from overseas.

Excuse me, where in the transcript, did he even once mention 45% tariffs? Secondly -- and I realize that you don't know anything about the US government -- the President does not set tariffs or singlehandedly sign trade deals. Any treaties or pacts must be ratified by Congress.

So your saying that he was lying in his ingurgitation speech.

No. I'm saying he didn't mention 45% (or any percent) tariffs.

He;s mentioned it enough times before. Were you stupid and deaf as well?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118017 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Bloated Orange Groper threatens Australia Reply #31 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:21pm Johnny Rocco put him there:
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Re: Bloated Orange Groper threatens Australia
Reply #32 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:48pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:15pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:19am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:07am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:01am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Where is sprint and mechanic? They are so in love with trump and he just told them to F-off!

So usa dumps the trade deal and China already has one in place and so everyone will simply join that and USA will be left out.

He can put 45% tariffs on all he wants but he seems to forget 30% of his cars from his own auto industry comes from overseas.

Excuse me, where in the transcript, did he even once mention 45% tariffs? Secondly -- and I realize that you don't know anything about the US government -- the President does not set tariffs or singlehandedly sign trade deals. Any treaties or pacts must be ratified by Congress.

So your saying that he was lying in his ingurgitation speech.

No. I'm saying he didn't mention 45% (or any percent) tariffs.

He;s mentioned it enough times before. Were you stupid and deaf as well?

Thank you for once again proving that Johnny/Longy can't read, and gets his interpretation of current events from "Comedy Central" in between bongs.

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Reply #33 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:52pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:38am:

The Bloated orange groper uses his inauguration speech to threaten Australia.

Well I say just tell him to Phuk off. He apparently is going to drop the Trade deal well that would be a shame nobody here wanted it anyway. He does not get that it was a bad deal for Australia and that makes it a good deal for the US.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/us-president-donald-trump-issues-warning-to-...

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Donald Trump has used his first speech as US president to issue a warning to Australia and other nations around the world that a new era has begun with his arrival in the White House.

Old alliances, trade deals, relationships, no matter how strong, were put on notice.

Trump told the crowd at his inauguration as the 45th president of the US in Washington DC on Friday that every decision he makes in his four-year term will be "America first".

Speculation Trump would walk away from his inflammatory campaign promises and take a more statesman-like approach in the White House was shredded by a speech where he put Canberra and every other world capital on notice...............................................

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact championed by Obama between the US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and eight other Pacific nations is likely to be scrapped by Trump within days.

So let me get this straight, you are denigrating trump because he wants to drop a trade deal which is not to our advantage anyway. Huh

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AuntieM Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 444 Gender:	Re: Bloated Orange Groper threatens Australia Reply #34 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:53pm You are assuming there is sentience there...
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Bloated Orange Groper threatens Australia Reply #35 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:54pm AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:53pm: You are assuming there is sentience there... Its getting hard to find on this forum. Theres a at least half a dozen googling the word "sentience" as we speak.
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Reply #36 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:15pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:19am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:07am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 8:01am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:56am:

Where is sprint and mechanic? They are so in love with trump and he just told them to F-off!

So usa dumps the trade deal and China already has one in place and so everyone will simply join that and USA will be left out.

He can put 45% tariffs on all he wants but he seems to forget 30% of his cars from his own auto industry comes from overseas.

Excuse me, where in the transcript, did he even once mention 45% tariffs? Secondly -- and I realize that you don't know anything about the US government -- the President does not set tariffs or singlehandedly sign trade deals. Any treaties or pacts must be ratified by Congress.

So your saying that he was lying in his ingurgitation speech.

No. I'm saying he didn't mention 45% (or any percent) tariffs.

He's mentioned it enough times before. Were you stupid and deaf as well?

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Reply #37 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:42pm

rhino wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:38am:

The Bloated orange groper uses his inauguration speech to threaten Australia.

Well I say just tell him to Phuk off. He apparently is going to drop the Trade deal well that would be a shame nobody here wanted it anyway. He does not get that it was a bad deal for Australia and that makes it a good deal for the US.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/us-president-donald-trump-issues-warning-to-...

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Donald Trump has used his first speech as US president to issue a warning to Australia and other nations around the world that a new era has begun with his arrival in the White House.

Old alliances, trade deals, relationships, no matter how strong, were put on notice.

Trump told the crowd at his inauguration as the 45th president of the US in Washington DC on Friday that every decision he makes in his four-year term will be "America first".

Speculation Trump would walk away from his inflammatory campaign promises and take a more statesman-like approach in the White House was shredded by a speech where he put Canberra and every other world capital on notice...............................................

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact championed by Obama between the US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and eight other Pacific nations is likely to be scrapped by Trump within days.

So let me get this straight, you are denigrating trump because he wants to drop a trade deal which is not to our advantage anyway. Huh

A lot of smarter people than you say otherwise. ANY trade deal brings out the usual suspects who claim it is bad but it is meant to be a DEAL - not a one-way rip-off. and thes trade deals have for decades now lead to the highest standard of living in history.

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Reply #38 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:45pm

rhino wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:54pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:53pm:

You are assuming there is sentience there...

Its getting hard to find on this forum. Theres a at least half a dozen googling the word "sentience" as we speak.

sentience. Something out of scifi and normally something you would assume in posters. Although you could replace green-snot with a random-generator. You could replace JS with the exact opposite of what I say on any topic. Sprint could be replaced with a Tea Party policy manual and mechanic could be replaced with a defective sex doll.

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Reply #39 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:37pm

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 11:49am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 11:30am:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 9:05am:

Ok. I don't recall hearing that one. Until Sanders was buggered over by the DNC, I was only focused on getting him elected.
Could you please provide the quote? Source? In context?

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/29/us-presidential-election-news-trumps-tariff-plan-...

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I was only focused on getting him elected

You really wanted a sexual predator as President ? Unbelievable.

DNARever, you have still not offered support for your claim. However, you have edited my posts. Thanks and goodbye.

To you a clip with Trump saying it is insufficient proof.

I edited no part of your post, I copied it in full and then later extracted the section I was commenting on to make it easy for you to understand. No words in your post were altered and no part of the meaning was changed in any way.

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Reply #40 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:42pm:

rhino wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:38am:

The Bloated orange groper uses his inauguration speech to threaten Australia.

Well I say just tell him to Phuk off. He apparently is going to drop the Trade deal well that would be a shame nobody here wanted it anyway. He does not get that it was a bad deal for Australia and that makes it a good deal for the US.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/us-president-donald-trump-issues-warning-to-...

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Donald Trump has used his first speech as US president to issue a warning to Australia and other nations around the world that a new era has begun with his arrival in the White House.

Old alliances, trade deals, relationships, no matter how strong, were put on notice.

Trump told the crowd at his inauguration as the 45th president of the US in Washington DC on Friday that every decision he makes in his four-year term will be "America first".

Speculation Trump would walk away from his inflammatory campaign promises and take a more statesman-like approach in the White House was shredded by a speech where he put Canberra and every other world capital on notice...............................................

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact championed by Obama between the US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and eight other Pacific nations is likely to be scrapped by Trump within days.

So let me get this straight, you are denigrating trump because he wants to drop a trade deal which is not to our advantage anyway. Huh

A lot of smarter people than you say otherwise. ANY trade deal brings out the usual suspects who claim it is bad but it is meant to be a DEAL - not a one-way rip-off. and thes trade deals have for decades now lead to the highest standard of living in history.

Im not claiming it was not to our advantage, that was his claim. I know little about it.

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Reply #41 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:44pm

rhino wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 2:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:42pm:

rhino wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 12:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 7:38am:

The Bloated orange groper uses his inauguration speech to threaten Australia.

Well I say just tell him to Phuk off. He apparently is going to drop the Trade deal well that would be a shame nobody here wanted it anyway. He does not get that it was a bad deal for Australia and that makes it a good deal for the US.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/us-president-donald-trump-issues-warning-to-...

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Donald Trump has used his first speech as US president to issue a warning to Australia and other nations around the world that a new era has begun with his arrival in the White House.

Old alliances, trade deals, relationships, no matter how strong, were put on notice.

Trump told the crowd at his inauguration as the 45th president of the US in Washington DC on Friday that every decision he makes in his four-year term will be "America first".

Speculation Trump would walk away from his inflammatory campaign promises and take a more statesman-like approach in the White House was shredded by a speech where he put Canberra and every other world capital on notice...............................................

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact championed by Obama between the US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and eight other Pacific nations is likely to be scrapped by Trump within days.

So let me get this straight, you are denigrating trump because he wants to drop a trade deal which is not to our advantage anyway. Huh

A lot of smarter people than you say otherwise. ANY trade deal brings out the usual suspects who claim it is bad but it is meant to be a DEAL - not a one-way rip-off. and thes trade deals have for decades now lead to the highest standard of living in history.

Im not claiming it was not to our advantage, that was his claim. I know little about it.

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I know little about it.

Yes but it never stops you from commenting, which is ok in my opinion.

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Reply #42 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:42pm:

A lot of smarter people than you say otherwise. ANY trade deal brings out the usual suspects who claim it is bad but it is meant to be a DEAL - not a one-way rip-off. and thes trade deals have for decades now lead to the highest standard of living in history.

A mountain of people involved in economics have canned this deal, it does little of benefit for us.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/transpacific-partnership-w...

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Australia stands to gain almost nothing from the mega trade deal sealed with 11 other nations including United States, Japan, and Singapore, the first comprehensive economic analysis finds.

Prepared by staff from the World Bank, the study says the so-called Trans-Pacific Partnership would boost Australia's economy by just 0.7 per cent by the year 2030...........

The annual boost to growth would be less than one half of one 10th of 1 per cent.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-29/verrender-dont-expect-ftas-to-live-up-to-t...

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And just like the Australia US Free Trade Agreement (AUSFTA to the cognoscenti) signed a little over a decade ago, the Trans Pacific Partnership has the potential to seriously compromise Australian sovereignty while delivering almost nothing in economic terms...............

Bureaucrats don't usually take to criticising government achievements, but commission chairman Peter Harris wasn't mincing words as he took a microscope to the furious round of recent signings.

Preferential trade deals, according to the report, add to the cost and complexity of international trade.

This wasn't a new message. In 2010, the Commission penned a wide-ranging report into our bilateral and regional trade deals that should have been compulsory reading for our politicians. Sadly, it seems, they took no notice.

The best way a nation can benefit from free trade is to dismantle its own trade barriers, the report concluded. Australia has already done just that............................

The TPP is being driven by America. Like most of these deals, it is politically driven. Fearful of China's rise, America wants to corral its allies under a trade umbrella. In the process, it also wants to further the interests of American corporations and American workers.

Specifically, it wants copyright laws and patents tightened and extended. These are agreements that offer protection to corporations and investors, usually justified on the grounds that innovation requires a reward.

The problem is, protection is the antithesis of free trade. Only a slippery politician could come with a strategy of strengthening protection under the auspices of a free trade deal.

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Reply #43 - Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:45pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 3:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2017 at 1:42pm:

A lot of smarter people than you say otherwise. ANY trade deal brings out the usual suspects who claim it is bad but it is meant to be a DEAL - not a one-way rip-off. and thes trade deals have for decades now lead to the highest standard of living in history.

A mountain of people involved in economics have canned this deal, it does little of benefit for us.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/transpacific-partnership-w...

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Australia stands to gain almost nothing from the mega trade deal sealed with 11 other nations including United States, Japan, and Singapore, the first comprehensive economic analysis finds.

Prepared by staff from the World Bank, the study says the so-called Trans-Pacific Partnership would boost Australia's economy by just 0.7 per cent by the year 2030...........

The annual boost to growth would be less than one half of one 10th of 1 per cent.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-29/verrender-dont-expect-ftas-to-live-up-to-t...

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And just like the Australia US Free Trade Agreement (AUSFTA to the cognoscenti) signed a little over a decade ago, the Trans Pacific Partnership has the potential to seriously compromise Australian sovereignty while delivering almost nothing in economic terms...............

Bureaucrats don't usually take to criticising government achievements, but commission chairman Peter Harris wasn't mincing words as he took a microscope to the furious round of recent signings.

Preferential trade deals, according to the report, add to the cost and complexity of international trade.

This wasn't a new message. In 2010, the Commission penned a wide-ranging report into our bilateral and regional trade deals that should have been compulsory reading for our politicians. Sadly, it seems, they took no notice.

The best way a nation can benefit from free trade is to dismantle its own trade barriers, the report concluded. Australia has already done just that............................

The TPP is being driven by America. Like most of these deals, it is politically driven. Fearful of China's rise, America wants to corral its allies under a trade umbrella. In the process, it also wants to further the interests of American corporations and American workers.

Specifically, it wants copyright laws and patents tightened and extended. These are agreements that offer protection to corporations and investors, usually justified on the grounds that innovation requires a reward.

The problem is, protection is the antithesis of free trade. Only a slippery politician could come with a strategy of strengthening protection under the auspices of a free trade deal.

Doesnt matter because TPP is dead. Funnily enough, a lot of commentators think it is one-side n USA benefit and so naturally Trump wants to can it becaus he cannot accept that anything he or the republicans put forward is any good.

it will be a fun 2 years because he quits or is booted out.

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