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Reply #15 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 8:15am

Good ol' Obama trying to redeem himself his last days. Of course, the prosecution and inhumane treatment of Manning is itself a crime, for which the Obama administration (along with the US military) are solely responsible.

Now does anyone else here find commutation of Manning's sentence to be rather ironic when the media and the entire political establishment, including the up and coming but short-lived Trump administration, continue to witch-hunt Assange and Snowden?

Manning spent seven years rotting in prison for what I consider to be a courageous anti-war action, yet not one god damn person has been arrested, prosecuted or jailed for any of the crimes documented in the material published by WikiLeaks. Oh, and let's not forget the war criminals who started it all: George W. Bush of the Bush Criminal Empire and his buddy Barack Obama.

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Reply #16 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 5:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Opinions have been varied to say the least but some Republicans have praised it and some Democrats hate it. But it really doesnt matter. Its not like any soldiers are going to look at Mannings case and think he got of lightly. After all, he got 35 years and a Presidential commutation is hardly something to bank on.

Sorry, I cannot go along with that. Presidential interference with a court-marshal conviction is fairly big stuff. When the case is one of handing over military information, it verges on treason. You have to ask yourself why Obama and the Dems did this. They did not do it on the spur of the moment, they weighed the consequences carefully. Some will say it is about justice for Manning, but if that was so important, why didn't the Democrats and Obama commute his sentence before the election? I think they knew Manning's case was an election liability, and so postponed action. The precedent of this case weakens military authority. I don't think this decision adds any luster to Obama's legacy as Commander in Chief.

You dont think that ALL pardons and so on do the same to any court? Why does a military court rank special to you? as for the when of the commutation... unless this has escaped your attention, EVERY POTUS does this in the few days prior to leaving office and is a tradition. That way they can do what they think is right and not have to put up with crap from the fallout.

If you don't understand why military secrecy is important, and in this case very close to treason, nothing I say will make any difference to you.

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Re: Bradley Manning Freed
Reply #17 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:06pm

Marla wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 8:15am:

Manning spent seven years rotting in prison for what I consider to be a courageous anti-war action, yet not one god damn person has been arrested, prosecuted or jailed for any of the crimes documented in the material published by WikiLeaks. Oh, and let's not forget the war criminals who started it all: George W. Bush of the Bush Criminal Empire and his buddy Barack Obama.

Very good Marla, and well written

Let's see now, premeditated and pre-planned invasions/interference of foreign countries for the purpose of not defending the US homeland, but for the purpose of bringing about a shady New World Order - Unconstitutional, if I understand it correctly

You got it right.

Manning should never have been prosecuted IMO

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Re: Bradley Manning Freed
Reply #18 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:29pm

Manning's commute is nothing more than a grand publicity stunt by the Obama Administration. It had zero to do with humanitarian issues but cynical political purposes to prop up the crumbling remains of the Democratic Party, revise Obama's history of being a war criminal and cater to the LGBT community, and anyone opposed to the illegal US wars in the Middle East.

Manning commutation will be used as a tool by every liberal and pseudo-left ass kisser of Obama, although the action only puts an end to one of the many, many atrocities of which the Obama administration has committed. By the way, commuting Manning’s sentence rather than granting a full pardon means that the precedent of conviction remains on the books as well as the sentence of a nearly lifetime term.

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AuntieM Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 444 Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #19 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:32pm Yep. Marla is actually right on this one.
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Reply #20 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:36pm

AuntieM wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:

Yep. Marla is actually right on this one.

I know right? Shocked

I also saw somewhere at the Jailing of Manning was unconstitutional..

im not sure of the full story on that one..

but if they want to try anyone for war crimes.. start with Bush and Obama...

next would be the Clintons ..

then work your way down from there..

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14710 Colorado Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #21 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:39pm Yet, Leonard Peltier remains in prison. Never mind looking him up, you Aussies. Just another example of Obama's hypocrisies.
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AuntieM Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 444 Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #22 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:43pm So, Marla. Peltier claims to be not guilty of killing two Feds. Did he kill them under extenuating circumstances, or did he not harm them at all, and was framed?
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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14710 Colorado Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #23 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:49pm Peltier's conviction was brought about solely on coerced and false testimony from witnesses threatened by the FBI not too mention suppression of evidence such as ballistic tests by Federal government who withheld 6,000 documents in whole and an estimated 5,000 in part dealing with the case.
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Reply #24 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:49pm

Obama is a putz shamed beta male.
Now he needs a job, he could apply to play Raymond on "everyone loves raymond".

Beta males are very confused about their sexuality and have very little direction in life. Seems like young Bradley or Chelsea or whoever they were was similarly confused.

a man who is not on his mission in life brings no value to the table and is really just garbage in terms of his usefulness.

Bradley was useless to the US military.
Obama was useless to the US white house.

they can both go on one of those putz shaming talk shows like "the view" or "ellen" and "vibe" with all those angry women.they are repulsive to everything that masculinity and the US armed forces are all about.

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14710 Colorado Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #25 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:50pm I see the MRA troll is back.
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Re: Bradley Manning Freed
Reply #26 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:51pm

Marla wrote on Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:49pm:

Peltier's conviction was brought about solely on coerced and false testimony from witnesses threatened by the FBI not too mention suppression of evidence such as ballistic tests by Federal government who withheld 6,000 documents in whole and an estimated 5,000 in part dealing with the case.

Now that's interesting. Can you share more?

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14710 Colorado Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #27 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:52pm Do your own homework. You hippies, I swear
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AuntieM Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 444 Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #28 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 12:59pm bugger that bullshit. You take a position, you own it, or don't expect anyone else to listen. Jesus, the wimps these days.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Bradley Manning Freed Reply #29 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 1:14pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 5:47pm: How many people lost their lives from the info that Bradley Manning released? Zero. Countless millions lost their minds.
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