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civil rights activist John Lewis
Jan 16^th, 2017 at 4:11am

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............Lewis described Trump as an illegitimate president..............

.............Congressman John Lewis should spend more time on fixing and helping his district, which is in horrible shape and falling apart (not to mention crime infested) rather than falsely complaining about the election results. All talk, talk, talk - no action or results. Sad!................

yes, all talk, no action

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/donald-trump-rips-civil-rights-icon-joh...

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: civil rights activist John Lewis Reply #1 - Jan 16^th, 2017 at 4:22am my office is in john lewis' district. trump is wrong. to say that lewis is all talk and no action is bizarre ... see the movie Selma - an actor plays his part ...
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Re: civil rights activist John Lewis
Reply #2 - Jan 16^th, 2017 at 4:41am

Mr Lewis served our country greatly, and the generations who follow him should never forget that.
Having said that, here is some data on his district, Georgia's 5th district. I imagine that the conditions in Atlanta since Mr Lewis was first elected in 1987, is what Trump was talking about.

"Here's a quick data snapshot of Rep. John Lewis' district:

Almost 750,000 people live there, according to the most recent estimates from the Census Bureau. The population is about 58 percent African-American, about one-third white and about 5 percent Asian.
The median household income is about $48,000 -- slightly higher than Georgia's median, but below the national median of $56,000. (The national median figure over the past five years has been about $54,000.)
About 1 in 6 families in the district lived in poverty in the previous year. The same dataset estimated the national rate to be about 1 family in 9.
The unemployment rate in the district was about 8.2 percent when the Census Bureau released its estimates last year for the American Community Survey’s 2015 one-year measurement. The same data set estimated the national unemployment rate at 6.3 percent, and the Georgia state rate at 7.1 percent. The national unemployment rate as of December, published by the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, was 4.7 percent.
Nearly nine out of 10 residents of the Fifth District were high school graduates or had education beyond high school, and about four out of 10 residents had at least a bachelor's degree, according to Census estimates.
The largest single chunk of employed residents in Lewis' district, about half of the civilian work force, worked in a field grouped by the Census as "management, business, science, and arts occupations." The district includes Atlanta's downtown and main business district, and includes the headquarters of the Coca-Cola Company in Midtown and Delta Air Lines near Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. It also covers the campuses of Georgia Tech and Emory University as well as the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and many of the city's major cultural and arts institutions.
The largest single sector employing people in the Fifth District is construction (12 percent), followed by "management and remediation services" (11.9 percent) and "management of companies and enterprises" (11.8).
In his Tweets about Lewis, Trump also hit on a continuing issue for Fifth District residents, Atlanta's crime problems, pegging the Fifth District as "crime-infested." Atlanta landed at No. 14 in the nation for its rate of violent crime when the Federal Bureau of Investigation released statistics last year that applied to 2015. "
http://www.ajc.com/news/gen-politics/trump-trashes-john-lewis-district-things-know-about-5th-congressional-district/6ud2uFWqgOU0RF7vRaIpJP/

Unemployment 15.5%
Median household income $40,708
High school graduation rate 85.7%
College graduation rate 38.1%
https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia%27s_5th_Congressional_District

From Jan 1987 to Jan 2017, Lewis missed 1,301 of 18,787 roll call votes, which is 6.9%. This is much worse than the median of 2.1% among the lifetime records of representatives currently serving. ProPublica has tracked 234 explanations for these missed votes. The chart below reports missed votes over time.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_lewis/400240

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Re: civil rights activist John Lewis
Reply #3 - Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:12am

Unfortunately, Mr Lewis' credibility has been eroded somewhat by his willingness to lie in collusion with the Clinton syndicate.
On Thursday, Congressman John Lewis cast doubt on Bernie Sanders’ involvement in the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s and then insinuated that the Clintons, both of them, had a stronger presence in the fight for civil rights than Bernie Sanders and were visible figures in the movement at the time. At an event, Lewis stated:

"I never saw him. I never met him. I was chair of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years, from 1963 to 1966. I was involved with the sit-ins, the Freedom Rides, the March on Washington, the march from Selma to Montgomery and directed (the) voter education project for six years. But I met Hillary Clinton. I met President (Bill) Clinton."

Well, there ya have it folks... This is the well respected civil rights leader John Lewis we’re talking about here. Who’s gonna disagree with John Lewis? Well, as it turns out, John Lewis disagrees with John Lewis!

Lewis contributed a section to a 2001 book called "Conversations: William Jefferson Clinton, from Hope to Harlem" which offers an African American perspective on President Clinton. In the book, Lewis states:

“The first time I heard of Bill Clinton was in the early 70s. I was living in Georgia, working for the Southern Poverty Law organization, when someone told me about this young, emerging leader in Arkansas who served as attorney general, then later became governor.”

Now, this was the first time that Lewis HEARD of Bill Clinton. When did he first “meet” him? Well…

“I think I paid more attention to him at the 1988 Democratic Convention, when he was asked to introduce the presidential candidate and took up far more time than was allotted to him. After he became involved with the Democratic Leadership Council, I would run into him from time to time. But it was one of his aides, Rodney Slater, who actually introduced us in 1991 and asked me if I would support his presidency.”

So, according to a statement made by John Lewis himself, he first met Bill Clinton in 1991. At the Congressional Black Caucus event on Thursday, he insinuated that he had “met” both Clintons in the 1960s civil rights era but here he says that he ran into Clinton from time to time “after he became involved with the Democratic Leadership Council.” Well, the Democratic Leadership Council was a non-profit organization founded in 1985. So, it appears that the earliest that Lewis could have “met” or “run into” Bill Clinton would have been 1985.
These statements by Lewis were featured in a book dedicated to African American perspectives on President Bill Clinton. If Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were significantly involved and visible in the crucial early years of the civil rights era, you’d think that John Lewis would have mentioned that in his contribution to the book…

As for Bernie Sanders involvement in the civil rights movement, it appears we have irrefutable proof in the form of newspapers from the time…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/12/1483921/-DID-JOHN-LEWIS-JUST-LIE-ABOUT-MEETING-THE-CLINTONS-DURING-THE-CIVIL-RIGHTS-ERA

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Re: civil rights activist John Lewis
Reply #4 - Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:23pm

AuntieM wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:12am:

Unfortunately, Mr Lewis' credibility has been eroded somewhat by his willingness to lie in collusion with the Clinton syndicate.
On Thursday, Congressman John Lewis cast doubt on Bernie Sanders’ involvement in the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s and then insinuated that the Clintons, both of them, had a stronger presence in the fight for civil rights than Bernie Sanders and were visible figures in the movement at the time. At an event, Lewis stated:

"I never saw him. I never met him. I was chair of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years, from 1963 to 1966. I was involved with the sit-ins, the Freedom Rides, the March on Washington, the march from Selma to Montgomery and directed (the) voter education project for six years. But I met Hillary Clinton. I met President (Bill) Clinton."

Well, there ya have it folks... This is the well respected civil rights leader John Lewis we’re talking about here. Who’s gonna disagree with John Lewis? Well, as it turns out, John Lewis disagrees with John Lewis!

Lewis contributed a section to a 2001 book called "Conversations: William Jefferson Clinton, from Hope to Harlem" which offers an African American perspective on President Clinton. In the book, Lewis states:

“The first time I heard of Bill Clinton was in the early 70s. I was living in Georgia, working for the Southern Poverty Law organization, when someone told me about this young, emerging leader in Arkansas who served as attorney general, then later became governor.”

Now, this was the first time that Lewis HEARD of Bill Clinton. When did he first “meet” him? Well…

“I think I paid more attention to him at the 1988 Democratic Convention, when he was asked to introduce the presidential candidate and took up far more time than was allotted to him. After he became involved with the Democratic Leadership Council, I would run into him from time to time. But it was one of his aides, Rodney Slater, who actually introduced us in 1991 and asked me if I would support his presidency.”

So, according to a statement made by John Lewis himself, he first met Bill Clinton in 1991. At the Congressional Black Caucus event on Thursday, he insinuated that he had “met” both Clintons in the 1960s civil rights era but here he says that he ran into Clinton from time to time “after he became involved with the Democratic Leadership Council.” Well, the Democratic Leadership Council was a non-profit organization founded in 1985. So, it appears that the earliest that Lewis could have “met” or “run into” Bill Clinton would have been 1985.
These statements by Lewis were featured in a book dedicated to African American perspectives on President Bill Clinton. If Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were significantly involved and visible in the crucial early years of the civil rights era, you’d think that John Lewis would have mentioned that in his contribution to the book…

As for Bernie Sanders involvement in the civil rights movement, it appears we have irrefutable proof in the form of newspapers from the time…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/12/1483921/-DID-JOHN-LEWIS-JUST-LIE-ABOUT-MEETING-THE-CLINTONS-DURING-THE-CIVIL-RIGHTS-ERA

Trump could pan Martin Luther King and you would agree with him. Wait until hs claims the world is flat. That will really confuse you - again.

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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: civil rights activist John Lewis Reply #5 - Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:25pm Trump is the loser in this confrontation. Both of Lewis's books sold out after he bagged Trump as illegitimate.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: civil rights activist John Lewis Reply #6 - Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:30pm Unforgiven wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:25pm: Trump is the loser in this confrontation. Both of Lewis's books sold out after he bagged Trump as illegitimate. Well Trump became President so I still think he won the fight.
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Re: civil rights activist John Lewis
Reply #7 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 2:26am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:23pm:

AuntieM wrote on Jan 16^th, 2017 at 6:12am:

Unfortunately, Mr Lewis' credibility has been eroded somewhat by his willingness to lie in collusion with the Clinton syndicate.
On Thursday, Congressman John Lewis cast doubt on Bernie Sanders’ involvement in the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s and then insinuated that the Clintons, both of them, had a stronger presence in the fight for civil rights than Bernie Sanders and were visible figures in the movement at the time. At an event, Lewis stated:

"I never saw him. I never met him. I was chair of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for three years, from 1963 to 1966. I was involved with the sit-ins, the Freedom Rides, the March on Washington, the march from Selma to Montgomery and directed (the) voter education project for six years. But I met Hillary Clinton. I met President (Bill) Clinton."

Well, there ya have it folks... This is the well respected civil rights leader John Lewis we’re talking about here. Who’s gonna disagree with John Lewis? Well, as it turns out, John Lewis disagrees with John Lewis!

Lewis contributed a section to a 2001 book called "Conversations: William Jefferson Clinton, from Hope to Harlem" which offers an African American perspective on President Clinton. In the book, Lewis states:

“The first time I heard of Bill Clinton was in the early 70s. I was living in Georgia, working for the Southern Poverty Law organization, when someone told me about this young, emerging leader in Arkansas who served as attorney general, then later became governor.”

Now, this was the first time that Lewis HEARD of Bill Clinton. When did he first “meet” him? Well…

“I think I paid more attention to him at the 1988 Democratic Convention, when he was asked to introduce the presidential candidate and took up far more time than was allotted to him. After he became involved with the Democratic Leadership Council, I would run into him from time to time. But it was one of his aides, Rodney Slater, who actually introduced us in 1991 and asked me if I would support his presidency.”

So, according to a statement made by John Lewis himself, he first met Bill Clinton in 1991. At the Congressional Black Caucus event on Thursday, he insinuated that he had “met” both Clintons in the 1960s civil rights era but here he says that he ran into Clinton from time to time “after he became involved with the Democratic Leadership Council.” Well, the Democratic Leadership Council was a non-profit organization founded in 1985. So, it appears that the earliest that Lewis could have “met” or “run into” Bill Clinton would have been 1985.
These statements by Lewis were featured in a book dedicated to African American perspectives on President Bill Clinton. If Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton were significantly involved and visible in the crucial early years of the civil rights era, you’d think that John Lewis would have mentioned that in his contribution to the book…

As for Bernie Sanders involvement in the civil rights movement, it appears we have irrefutable proof in the form of newspapers from the time…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/12/1483921/-DID-JOHN-LEWIS-JUST-LIE-ABOUT-MEETING-THE-CLINTONS-DURING-THE-CIVIL-RIGHTS-ERA

Trump could pan Martin Luther King and you would agree with him. Wait until hs claims the world is flat. That will really confuse you - again.

I wasn't taking anything Trump said as fact. I merely pointed out that John Lewis is an establishment party hack, proven to have told lies about Sanders and Clinton, and possibly also capable of manipulating public opinion in a disingenuous partisan way, now.

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