Australian Politics Forum - Whoaa! - Hold it right THERE, Bucko!

Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Whoaa! - Hold it right THERE, Bucko! Jan 7^th, 2017 at 11:01am Quote: 'David Kerr has never recovered from the nightmare of what took place that day He has been unable to work for 12 years and suffers mental health problems. Don't we all? 12 years on the dole ... I'd have him back at work so fast his head would spin like Linda Blair's in The Exorcist. link
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Reply #1 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 3:29pm

I have had things worse than this guy. I have been bashed unconscious. I have been shot. I have had my identity stolen. I have had death threats. One thing I have learned is to not express aloud opposition to the drug trade in Australia.

This guy has had things bad. But I would give him about 5 years to recover from the ordeal. Not 12. Even 5 years seems generous, considering I have suffered more post traumatic stress than he will ever encounter.

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Reply #2 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 8:31pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

I have had things worse than this guy. I have been bashed unconscious. I have been shot. I have had my identity stolen. I have had death threats. One thing I have learned is to not express aloud opposition to the drug trade in Australia.

This guy has had things bad. But I would give him about 5 years to recover from the ordeal. Not 12. Even 5 years seems generous, considering I have suffered more post traumatic stress than he will ever encounter.

Have you had your virgin girlfriend raped within earshot while you were tied up and unable to do anything? I think I'd rather be shot.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Whoaa! - Hold it right THERE, Bucko! Reply #3 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 8:53pm Does any one know how to decipher Sentatas posts or is it just sinsemilla talk.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17310 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Whoaa! - Hold it right THERE, Bucko! Reply #4 - Jan 7^th, 2017 at 11:34pm Johnnie wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 8:53pm: Does any one know how to decipher Sentatas posts or is it just sinsemilla talk. Definitely the latter. Damned hippies!
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Reply #5 - Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:30am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 11:01am:

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'David Kerr has never recovered from the nightmare of what took place that day
He has been unable to work for 12 years and suffers mental health problems.

Don't we all?

12 years on the dole ...

The solution is easy, he should be on DSP. It's easy to get if you know how. I'm happy to coach anyone to get on the gravy train. Cool

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Reply #6 - Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:42am

WN wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:30am:

The solution is easy, he should be on DSP. It's easy to get if you know how. I'm happy to coach anyone to get on the gravy train. Cool

As a matter of fact someone in Canberra (Morrison?) was saying only recently that all those thousands of people on Disability Support Pension for dodgy and unprovable conditions such as 'depression' would soon be getting a very strict reviewing of their cases any day now. This announcement must have thrown 'South West Sydney' into panic mode, but so far no gunfire has been heard down that way ...

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Reply #7 - Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:46am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:42am:

WN wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:30am:

The solution is easy, he should be on DSP. It's easy to get if you know how. I'm happy to coach anyone to get on the gravy train. Cool

As a matter of fact someone in Canberra (Morrison?) was saying only recently that all those thousands of people on Disability Support Pension for dodgy and unprovable conditions such as 'depression' would soon be getting a very strict reviewing of their cases any day now. This announcement must have thrown 'South West Sydney' into panic mode, but so far no gunfire has been heard down that way ...

It's easy to beat a review if you get reports from specialists. A good sob story and they're only too happy to write a heart rending letter of support.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Whoaa! - Hold it right THERE, Bucko! Reply #8 - Jan 8^th, 2017 at 8:13am WN wrote on Jan 8^th, 2017 at 7:46am: It's easy to beat a review if you get reports from specialists. A good sob story and they're only too happy to write a heart rending letter of support. Too late for me now! I'm retired! Why didn't you tell me sooner?!
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Reply #9 - Jan 9^th, 2017 at 3:42am

Setanta wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 8:31pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

I have had things worse than this guy. I have been bashed unconscious. I have been shot. I have had my identity stolen. I have had death threats. One thing I have learned is to not express aloud opposition to the drug trade in Australia.

This guy has had things bad. But I would give him about 5 years to recover from the ordeal. Not 12. Even 5 years seems generous, considering I have suffered more post traumatic stress than he will ever encounter.

Have you had your virgin girlfriend raped within earshot while you were tied up and unable to do anything? I think I'd rather be shot.

Being tied up whilst your girlfriend is being raped is fairly traumatising. But you would get over it. Had that man been shot in some kind of botched robbery, he would probably be crying more foul. He is using his girlfriend's death as a reason to milk the system. For 5 years, it would be understandable to be unable to work. But even that 4th and 5th-year aftermath, you would be in the recovery well enough to work somewhere.

Between the ages of 8 and 26, I was subjected to various forms of abuse. This ranged from sexual abuse, to robbery, to being assaulted by adults, to threats of violence by adults because they are more interested in siding with a criminal than a child. When I turned 18, people exacerbated the attacks against me. Racial attacks. The attempted murder. I was run down by someone who could not get her facts straight. A knife was held to my throat. My bank account had been robbed by fraudsters, because the bank could not give a **** about getting proper identity confirmation. My identity was stolen by some narcissist -- pity he did not know about the death threats against me and ended up copping some of what I was getting. Oh, and some drug dealers have recently decided to make things difficult for me trying to blackmail me into getting them drugs -- or else. I guess they did not get the memo that I don't have any say in drug trafficking.

So, here I am working anywhere from 20 to 40 hours a week, after a couple decades of these sporadic attacks against me. My post traumatic experience is slowly fading, though I could relapse if put into certain situations. But for me, I was expected to be recovered after 6 months off from work. I really have no pity for someone 12 years after the death of their friend from moping about on welfare. If I don't expect to receive some sympathy now, neither should he.

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Reply #10 - Jan 9^th, 2017 at 9:06am

Life is harsh.
Can we accept this as a factual statement

Life is unfair.
Can we accept this as a factual statement.

no matter how many insurance policies you take out.
no matter how much your mummy loved you and tried to present a false reality of what the world is like, at some stage you need to man up and see reality for what it is.

Things are NEVER going to go your way.
A superior man DELIGHTS in the fact that he can remain emotionally grounded, on point and true to his rock solid core , whether things go his way or not.

If you are incapable of ,at least aiming to develop the emotional mastery to remain stable despite the BS that is thrown at you, then you need to face the reality that you are a pussy.

Now, does this mean we kick people who are down, when they are down and get some sadistic pleasure out of seeing them suffer?

of course not.

But we acknowledge a universal truth.

When you are confronted with pain, you either identify with the pain and become a victim or you learn a lesson about life and you grow.
When you are confronted with problems (and everybody will be) you either become a cry baby about your problems and you go down, or you use your problems to provide the emotional juice to go up and you see a problem as an opportunity.

i totally "get" why people feel self pity.
But you need to just have a personal boundary so strong, that you will never let that sh*t in.
You can let it in if you want, but what happens....you go down.

This guy could have taken a lesson in lifes reality and gone up.
he could have hit the gym, become a black belt in martial arts, he could have ridden the tube, kicking the ass of anyone who attacked an innocent human, he could have gone into contribution and higher consciousness.
he could have devoted himself to contribution.

he chose not to.

the do-gooders are simply enabling these bad decisions.

If a government runs programs like "work for the dole" or "boot camps " and they are run with the right motivation. to stop people feeling self pity and to encourage them to move into a higher consciousness and a world bigger then their own "feeling butt hurt" "mental purgatory", then anyone who opposes this is a hateful prick who wants to feed off the suffering of people who need a "gentle" kick up the ass

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Reply #11 - Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:15am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

I have had things worse than this guy.

It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her.

Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc.

It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence.

In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment.

So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky.

There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life.

Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a woman's vagina in exactly the same way as her lover does.

Perspective, ladies and gentlemen.

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Reply #12 - Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:33am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

I have had things worse than this guy.

It was Sex Without Consent in which for a very few brief moments her freedom to chose was denied her.

Until recent times this was the common experience of women everywhere due to raiding parties, wars, the Vikings and the Danes, slavery, harems, inter-tribal fighting, mixed jails, initiation rites, and then sharing your wife as an act of hospitality in some societies, etc.

It's only in very recent times that sex-without-permission has been elevated to being a hanging offence.

In fact, I once saw a news item in which a lofty British judge, all dressed up in his finery, told his audience that there can be no such thing as 'rape within marriage' - and that he would dismiss any such charges against a husband brought before him for judgment.

So let's get some perspective here, UnSubRocky.

There are a hell of a lot more 'worse things' that can happen to a woman than that somebody has uninvited sex with the same sex organ as she will use voluntarily for over 50 years of her adult life.

Being caned for 7 years as a captive child in a boarding school is to my reckoning astronomically worse than a brief encounter with a male who uses a vagina in exactly the same way as a lover does.

I'm honestly speechless.

And this, Herbie, is why people call you a troll.

You are disgusting.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Reply #13 - Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:53am

Now don't go 'hysterical' on me, Mothra, I'm just experimenting with taking an unconventional view on this. It's what Institutes of Learning do to better educate their students to learn how to think outside the square.

The UK judge really did say that, and the pages of history are littered with ISIS/Yazidis encounters, and Muslim/Cologne incidences.

Apart from Shock/Horror - do you have anything intelligent to say?

Do I really have to say that I believe unauthorised sex to be repugnant and unlawful?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36389 Gender:	Re: Whoaa! - Hold it right THERE, Bucko! Reply #14 - Jan 9^th, 2017 at 10:57am
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