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Re: Breaking News: Putin Guilty!
Reply #90 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 3:27pm
 
Ajax wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 8:36am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 8:27am:
American's have lost their freedom of speech...

American's will believe what their government tells it to believe or feel the full force of the law agains them...

one would wonder why the Septic Tanks are going down this path...

they still seem to be pushing for WWIII

Trump could be their only chance to avoid an all out WWIII... the first stages have already begun... its been going on for years with lamestream media being silent with Bush and then Obama continuing to push towards Russia with Hundreds of new bases, ballistic missile weapons and troops..

its freaking madness...

all to fill the pockets of the illite rich pigs...   


If Putin opened up Russia and sold her off to the oligarchy like every western politician has done over the last three decades we wouldn't have a problem.

We are on the verge of WW3 because the oligarchy cannot get its hands on
the wealth of Russia
and Putin is pushing back hard.

This is madness, how have we allowed a hand full of men to dictate the future of the whole planet.

Dear little AJAX:

What, exactly, is the wealth of russia?
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Reply #91 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 7:38pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 9:34am:
I'm saying foreign govts should not be affecting another govt's elections Mechanic. Do you have a problem with that? Do you think foreign govt's should unduly influence an election?

I seem to recall you (pretty sure it was you) bitching once when one foreign MP made an adverse comment about Abbott ... you seemed to think he should have minded his own business and not gotten involved in Australian politics. Are you now saying it's OK as long as it helps your side?


no wonder everyone thinks you're an idiot.



bump for Mechanic ....


you seem to have missed this Mechanic .. do you want to clarify your position?
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Reply #92 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:10pm
 
I'm not saying Russia wouldn't be willing to do it.

However -- Seth Rich, 27, was shot and killed on July 10 at 4:15 a.m. in a murder that remains unsolved. Police said there were no suspects or eyewitnesses or an obvious motive. What made the murder so strange was that he may have been a victim of an “attempted robbery,” but his wallet and credit cards were not taken.  His body was covered in bruises and he was shot multiple times in the back.

He was a Director at the DNC, in charge of voter databases, and surely had enough computer literacy to have accessed the information leaked to Wikileaks.

In a recent poll, 73% of Respondents replied they believe Rich, rather than Russians, was the source of the leaks.

In the end, the US election was not hacked...information damaging to one party was leaked, but the election was not "hacked".

Like it or not, Trump won. Now we need to move on.
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Reply #93 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:13pm
 
AuntieM wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
I'm not saying Russia wouldn't be willing to do it.

However -- Seth Rich, 27, was shot and killed on July 10 at 4:15 a.m. in a murder that remains unsolved. Police said there were no suspects or eyewitnesses or an obvious motive. What made the murder so strange was that he may have been a victim of an “attempted robbery,” but his wallet and credit cards were not taken.  His body was covered in bruises and he was shot multiple times in the back.

He was a Director at the DNC, in charge of voter databases, and surely had enough computer literacy to have accessed the information leaked to Wikileaks.

In a recent poll, 73% of Respondents replied they believe Rich, rather than Russians, was the source of the leaks.

In the end, the US election was not hacked...information damaging to one party was leaked, but the election was not "hacked".

Like it or not, Trump won. Now we need to move on.


So CIA, FBI, NSA and other security agencies are wrong and some anonymous speculator is right?
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Reply #94 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:23pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
AuntieM wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
I'm not saying Russia wouldn't be willing to do it.

However -- Seth Rich, 27, was shot and killed on July 10 at 4:15 a.m. in a murder that remains unsolved. Police said there were no suspects or eyewitnesses or an obvious motive. What made the murder so strange was that he may have been a victim of an “attempted robbery,” but his wallet and credit cards were not taken.  His body was covered in bruises and he was shot multiple times in the back.

He was a Director at the DNC, in charge of voter databases, and surely had enough computer literacy to have accessed the information leaked to Wikileaks.

In a recent poll, 73% of Respondents replied they believe Rich, rather than Russians, was the source of the leaks.

In the end, the US election was not hacked...information damaging to one party was leaked, but the election was not "hacked".

Like it or not, Trump won. Now we need to move on.


So CIA, FBI, NSA and other security agencies are wrong and some anonymous speculator is right?

First of all, not all agencies are backing up the "report", whose details are not being declassified for review, and which is based on attribution rather than evidence.  In fact, many intelligence community figures have questioned not only the timing, but the veracity of the report.
Then there is the fact that just several months ago, the CIA was called in for investigation by a Senate committee after misstatements they made in a report that was intended to prove the US Administration was "winning" against ISIL.
And we all remember WMD.
Granted, the CIA would know oodles about what manipulating an election/coup in another country would look like and how it would be done -- just look at Chile, Nicaragua, Haiti, .....
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Reply #95 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:24pm
 
AuntieM wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:23pm:
First of all, not all agencies are backing up the "report", whose details are not being declassified for review, and which is based on attribution rather than evidence.  In fact, many intelligence community figures have questioned not only the timing, but the veracity of the report.



so which ones aren't supporting the reports?
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Reply #96 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:30pm
 
What's more mainstream than "PCWorld"?
"FBI dispute with DNC over hacked servers may fuel doubt on Russia role
The FBI never gained access to the DNC's hacked servers, instead relying on evidence provided from CrowdStrike"
Then the TOR project reports that the information on the servers, provided by the US Government, in no way indicates a Russian link.
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Reply #97 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:38pm
 
I can't yet post links, sorry about that....
But we should also keep this in mind:
A quick look at just five of those smoking guns — any of which alone would be damning — illustrates why Clinton (with the help of the liberal mainstream media) wanted to keep the attention on the supposed source of the leak, rather than on what the e-mails show about Clinton and her comrades in the DNC.

• As secretary of state, Clinton “reset” relations with Putin’s Russia, which helped the Clinton Foundation and its donors make millions of dollars off a deal that sold Uranium One (and 25 percent of our strategic uranium production) to Russia.

• John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign manager, is involved in a huge financial/national security scandal involving his position as an executive board member of Joule Global Stichting, a company owned by Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg and Putin’s state-owned RUSNANO corporation.

• Secretary of State Clinton set up multi-billion dollar deals and transfers of U.S. technology to help Vladimir Putin build Skolkovo, Russia’s high-tech Silicone Valley, concerning which the FBI has issued “an extraordinary warning” noting that Russia may use this cooperation to obtain America’s “sensitive or classified research development facilities and dual-use technologies.”

• Clinton’s own campaign staff expressed concerns about the Clinton Foundation’s “cozy relationship” with the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), a notorious group with links to Iran’s virulently anti-American regime, and a Clinton fundraising event at the home of NIAC official Michael Chegini.

• The Clinton Foundation accepted more than $10 million from the government of Saudi Arabia and $1 million from Qatar, even though Secretary Clinton noted in an e-mail that the Saudis and Qatar “are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region.”
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Reply #98 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:47pm
 
Obama-russia
President Barack Obama is stuck between false flag operations and political circus?

” I am deeply offended by the lies being told by the US Government – and more specifically, by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) with the explicit approval of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the President – with respect to the Russians “hacking” the US election.  Robert David Steele, Intelligence expert

– I am reminded of the 935 now-documented lies told by Dick Cheney to justify a $5 trillion war and multiple occupations from Afghanistan to Niger – or in more Nordic terms, the falsification by the Swedish military, in collaboration with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and CIA, of a Russian submarine that never existed, allegedly “invading” Swedish waters.

As a CIA spy, I have faked intelligence, lied to government leaders, and managed a modest false flag operation (no one died). This is what CIA does. I accuse John Brennan, Director of the CIA, of being a liar who is in betrayal of the public trust with his lies. The most recent DHS-FBI report – and related reports from small companies seeking to curry favor with the Deep State – are absolute crap.

Image Left: Robert David Steele

I was the author of the first letter to the White House warning of our cyber-security shortfalls, in 1994. In the same year I was the opening speaker for Hackers on Planet Earth. The year before, in 1993, I introduced NSA to hackers — of the 900+ participants in my international conference roughly 60 were from NSA, bused down from Fort Meade to listen to a panel led by Emanuel Goldstein, founder of 2600.

Here are the facts as I understand them, augmented by public statements from Julian Assange, Craig Murray, William Binney, James Bamford, Ray McGovern, Philip Giraldi, and John McAfee – and others who do not wish to be named.

The only people “hacking” the US election have been the two political parties.  The Democratic Party actively conspired against Bernie Sanders and actively stole thirteen primaries from Bernie Sanders using electronic ballot tampering. The Democratic Party also organized roughly three million dead, duplicate, and illegal alien voters. The Republican Party used various means to repress a million black voters.
The Russians – as well as the Israelis, French, Germans, Chinese, and everyone else on the planet with any curiosity – have absolutely been conducting electronic espionage against US political targets. They have not “leaked” anything (generally intelligence services try not to demonstrate that they have successfully hacked in anywhere).
The “leaks” from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to WikiLeaks were a combination of disgruntled NSA officials furious with Hillary Clinton’s mis-handling of classified materials (including sending emails with classified information to IP addresses in Saudi Arabia and Qatar), and a DNC insider with authorized access who shared copies – all this according to William Binney, Julian Assange, and Craig Murray.
The exposure (I use the term advisedly) of John Podesta as a very unethical political operative with very strong possibilities of also being a pedophile, resulted from a single phishing expedition by a single hacker who social engineered Podesta into changing his Google email password through an intermediate site that then was able to steal all of Podesta’s email. This hacker is in jail in the US and it is almost certain that he is collaborating with a US intelligence service, not the Russians.
The final “leaks” came from the New York Police Department (NYPD) after it confiscated a laptop from Anthony Weiner that turned out to have – it is alleged – all 650,000 emails that included Huma Abedeen as an addressed. This is a mother lode. The FBI immediately sequestered this machine, but not before the NYPD copied many of the emails and leaked the fact that they provided evidence of treason by Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedeen in taking money from Qatar and Saudi Arabia in return for regime change in Syria and Yemen as well as classified information in passing; and information reinforcing the possibilities of female as well as male pedophilia in the highest ranks of the Democratic Party.
The only intelligence services that persistently spy on US politicians across every device they own are the US intelligence services, specifically NSA, with CIA focusing on selected Senators and Representatives. NSA has explicitly spied on Barack Obama in detail since Obama was a junior Senator. The US media, very much under control, is both replaying the false narrative against the Russians, and strictly avoiding any independent commentary on the fact that it is US traitors, not the Russians, who are the threat to US peace and prosperity.
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Reply #99 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 10:59pm
 
"These collection resources are extensive [see attached NSA slides 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]; they include hundreds of trace route programs that trace the path of packets going across the network and tens of thousands of hardware and software implants in switches and servers that manage the network. Any emails being extracted from one server going to another would be, at least in part, recognizable and traceable by all these resources.

The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any “hacked” emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network. This process can sometimes require a closer look into the routing to sort out intermediate clients, but in the end sender and recipient can be traced across the network.

The various ways in which usually anonymous spokespeople for U.S. intelligence agencies are equivocating – saying things like “our best guess” or “our opinion” or “our estimate” etc. – shows that the emails alleged to have been “hacked” cannot be traced across the network. Given NSA’s extensive trace capability, we conclude that DNC and HRC servers alleged to have been hacked were, in fact, not hacked.

The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods. Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider – as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC.

As for the comments to the media as to what the CIA believes, the reality is that CIA is almost totally dependent on NSA for ground truth in the communications arena. Thus, it remains something of a mystery why the media is being fed strange stories about hacking that have no basis in fact. In sum, given what we know of NSA’s existing capabilities, it beggars belief that NSA would be unable to identify anyone – Russian or not – attempting to interfere in a U.S. election by hacking.

For the Steering Group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)

William Binney, former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.)

Mike Gravel, former Adjutant, top secret control officer, Communications Intelligence Service; special agent of the Counter Intelligence Corps and former United States Senator

Larry Johnson, former CIA Intelligence Officer & former State Department Counter-Terrorism Official

Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer & CIA analyst (ret.)

Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA (ret.)

Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA (ret.)"
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Reply #100 - Jan 9th, 2017 at 11:05pm
 


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.................The only people “hacking” the US election have been the two political parties.  The Democratic Party actively conspired against Bernie Sanders and actively stole thirteen primaries from Bernie Sanders using electronic ballot tampering. The Democratic Party also organized roughly three million dead, duplicate, and illegal alien voters. The Republican Party used various means to repress a million black voters.

The Russians – as well as the Israelis, French, Germans, Chinese, and everyone else on the planet with any curiosity – have absolutely been conducting electronic espionage against US political targets. They have not “leaked” anything (generally intelligence services try not to demonstrate that they have successfully hacked in anywhere).

The “leaks” from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to WikiLeaks were a combination of disgruntled NSA officials furious with Hillary Clinton’s mis-handling of classified materials (including sending emails with classified information to IP addresses in Saudi Arabia and Qatar), and a DNC insider with authorized access who shared copies – all this according to William Binney, Julian Assange, and Craig Murray................




http://phibetaiota.net/2017/01/robert-steele-in-defence-and-intelligence-norway-...


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Reply #101 - Jan 11th, 2017 at 4:40pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 9th, 2017 at 3:27pm:
Ajax wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 8:36am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 8:27am:
American's have lost their freedom of speech...

American's will believe what their government tells it to believe or feel the full force of the law agains them...

one would wonder why the Septic Tanks are going down this path...

they still seem to be pushing for WWIII

Trump could be their only chance to avoid an all out WWIII... the first stages have already begun... its been going on for years with lamestream media being silent with Bush and then Obama continuing to push towards Russia with Hundreds of new bases, ballistic missile weapons and troops..

its freaking madness...

all to fill the pockets of the illite rich pigs...   


If Putin opened up Russia and sold her off to the oligarchy like every western politician has done over the last three decades we wouldn't have a problem.

We are on the verge of WW3 because the oligarchy cannot get its hands on
the wealth of Russia
and Putin is pushing back hard.

This is madness, how have we allowed a hand full of men to dictate the future of the whole planet.

Dear little AJAX:

What, exactly, is the wealth of russia?


DRAH was a better acronym for you............ Tongue
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Reply #102 - Jan 11th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 9:13am:
cods wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 9:01am:
I find it interesting how you BELIEVE these agencies  when it favour what you wish to hear..

yet when the same agencies claimed there was WMD .. you didnt believe  a bar of it..

seems very convenient... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

if they can prove this why didnt they STOP IT???...

seems to me the horse has bolted... not much point in locking the gate???...

whats the point of having an agency that can only deliver after the deed has been accomplished....

Clinton whined all through the election about Russia... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

just sayin!


100% cods...

and the people that they are wheeling out to spread this lie are known liars... James Clapper for instance... (quick aia, go look him up as you won't even have A CLUE of who the lying rsole is )

and is America trying to say that it DOESN;T spy or hack into other countries???

more lies..

hell... even Australia has been caught out spying...

but lets forget about the sideshow of hacking for a minute..

how about looking into what was leaked... ???????????

it exposed the Democrats and the Clintons as crooks, thieves and liars...

it exposed them for doing illegal activities..

it exposed them for rigging elections...

etc etc etc....

but oh... we'll turn a blind eye to all of that.. because we are insane lefties luvvies who want to start WWIII and allow millions of stinking terrorist Muslims into the country..  Roll Eyes



Stick to the script, Mechanic. You really need to be reading the Leader's Tweets:

Quote:
Trump emerged from a briefing by the nation’s top intelligence officials on the contents of the report acknowledging at least the possibility that Russia was behind election-related hacks. But he offered no indication that he was prepared to accept their conclusions that Moscow sought to help him win.

Instead, Trump said in a statement that while Russia, China and other countries and groups may have sought to breach Democratic and Republican computer systems, “there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election.”


This is not about the Russians hacking the Democrats to get Trump in, it's about Trump's popular mandate and ultimately, his legacy.

Of course the Russians did it. Everybody knows. We just need to prove the Amerikan people love Trump more than Russian expansionists and oligarchs.

Now if anyone can do this, you can - with a little help from Sprint.
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Reply #103 - Jan 11th, 2017 at 5:44pm
 
the 60 year disaster that was luvvie ,do gooder,touchy feeley ,softco*k, cry baby, weak sauce, mediocre, self loathing , value leeching and leaning is coming to an end.

vlad and donald...strong powerful masculine , penetrating out into the world, enforcing their ideas on the world, just the way nature has intended masculine energy to be since we crawled out of the primordial slime.

david attenborroughs life of mammals is on tonight.
mandatory viewing for all beta males so they can see how important it is to the stability of our society that we acknowledge the rightful rule of the superior man.
its just the way nature intended it
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Reply #104 - Jan 11th, 2017 at 6:10pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 11th, 2017 at 5:44pm:
the 60 year disaster that was luvvie ,do gooder,touchy feeley ,softco*k, cry baby, weak sauce, mediocre, self loathing , value leeching and leaning is coming to an end.

vlad and donald...strong powerful masculine , penetrating out into the world, enforcing their ideas on the world, just the way nature has intended masculine energy to be since we crawled out of the primordial slime.

david attenborroughs life of mammals is on tonight.
mandatory viewing for all beta males so they can see how important it is to the stability of our society that we acknowledge the rightful rule of the superior man.
its just the way nature intended it

-> aqua is tripping: or a recruitment con-man,.. take your pick!

Like a friggin' prostitute on about body language until you start feeling like it's best to get the bugger away  Shocked
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