Dnarever wrote on Jan 11
th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9
th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
AuntieM wrote on Jan 9
th, 2017 at 10:23pm:
First of all, not all agencies are backing up the "report", whose details are not being declassified for review, and which is based on attribution rather than evidence. In fact, many intelligence community figures have questioned not only the timing, but the veracity of the report.
so which ones aren't supporting the reports?
One of them that supported the report said it wasn't certain only extremely likely.
What they have, is theories based on attribution, rather than evidence. It's the level of veracity the CIA deems acceptable for their "factfinding". The DNC didn't give the FBI access to the server to do a proper examination of it, so any proper forensics were impossible. What we have is based on attribution and assumptions.
A line of code which resembles another line of code which was used in other places. The problem with lines of code, is they can be used by anyone.
The appearance that someone used a Cyrillic keyboard. Problem is, the Cyrillic script writing system is an alphabet developed in the 9th century in Bulgaria, and used in the Slavic national languages of Belarusian, Bulgarian, Russian, Rusyn, Bosnian, Serbian, Macedonian, and Ukrainian, and in the non-Slavic languages of Moldovan, Kazakh, Uzbek, Kyrgyz, Tajik, Tuvan, and Mongolian. It also was used in past languages of Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, and Siberia. Since the accession of Bulgaria to the European Union on 1 January 2007, Cyrillic became the third official alphabet of the European Union, following the Latin and Greek alphabets. That's a lot of possibilities...
Then, 367 IPs of the 876 IPs given in the report, or 42 percent, are Tor exit nodes which anyone can use.
Of the rest, 30 are in the US and 40 are in the PRC. A number of them are in Israel. Furthermore, the report indicates WINDOWS servers were used by the hackers.
What self-respecting Russian hacker is going to use a Windows server, when the Russian government got rid of their Windows servers long ago, deeming them a security risk?The report was based on guesses, and not estimates. The same kind of guesses that got us into a war in Iraq, and look how we're still dealing with the crap fallout from that...
It's entirely possible Russians -- with or without their Government's orders -- were involved. However, there is no evidence yet that firmly establishes that to be the truth. Furthermore, the CIA, DHS and NSA have fudged numbers and "facts" in the past, and we've been far too willing to go to war with the lies in hand.
Caution.