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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #45 - Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Centre link and the AFP - Taskforce integrity ?

They have to be taking the p1ss ?

It looks like they fail their own test.

What kind of lunatic runs around pumping up his ego and thumping his chest over the poorest in the land who may have recently been fortunate enough to get a few hours work a week - and who while on SOCIAL SECURITY benefits are obliged to report every fortnight BEFORE they even get paid, so some errors are inevitable - and have always been discounted in the past if they are only a few bucks - by threatening them with police and other Fascist nonsense.

I seriously think it is time we removed these clowns from Canberra by any means.... they are getting outright dangerous...... totally lost in their own small-minded paranoia about those they've kicked in the guts over work and incomes for years..... crazy as loons...

Since I retired from my last job - well - I KEPT all my pay slips received online in a file.... and sometimes I OVER-estimated income.... never heard them offer to pay it back...... Roll Eyes

Thieving mongrels.... what would Jesus do? Take a scourge to them and drive them out of the Temple....

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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #46 - Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:07pm:

As Wilkie said today, some dumbferk public servant came up with this ever so obvious stupidly flawed process, and innocent people are being improperly harassed.

Divide the annual amounts involved by 26 and come up with an average - any flea-brain would have to know that was wrong - so this is deliberate policy to roust the poorest in the land.... put the dogs on these scum... it is THEY whom the Feds should be arresting and charging for defrauding the Australian people...

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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #47 - Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:16pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:07pm:

As Wilkie said today, some dumbferk public servant came up with this ever so obvious stupidly flawed process, and innocent people are being improperly harassed.

Divide the annual amounts involved by 26 and come up with an average - any flea-brain would have to know that was wrong - so this is deliberate policy to roust the poorest in the land.... put the dogs on these scum... it is THEY whom the Feds should be arresting and charging for defrauding the Australian people...

They probably outsourced the programming to India - there is a real possibility that the programmers had little idea of what they were doing and how the system works. With reduced staff and insufficient skill to properly test the system it may well have been just normal incompetence.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 113205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal Reply #48 - Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:21pm Pollies get heaps - they are the biggest dole bludgers in Australia yet they pick on anyone else who gets even a measly $250 per week. go figure?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146399 Gender:	Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal Reply #49 - Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:26pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:21pm: Pollies get heaps - they are the biggest dole bludgers in Australia yet they pick on anyone else who gets even a measly $250 per week. go figure? They rob from the poor, in order to give to themselves. Do you have an appropriate video for these people, Booby?
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal Reply #50 - Jan 4^th, 2017 at 10:10pm Covered tonight on the 7.30 report. Hopes that crackdown on Centrelink benefits will be overturned
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal Reply #51 - Jan 4^th, 2017 at 10:21pm Centrelink defends debt recovery scheme after Andrew Wilkie criticism They're hardly going to admit the problems now, are they?
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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #52 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 4:47am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:03pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 4:23pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 2:30pm:

Somebody do Australia and send Porter to Syria or something...

What a BROWN-NOSING LITTLE SNOT HE IS... to even suggest that torturing poor people is a good thing and a worthy cause.. what a lying little twerp.... another turd in a good suit and overpaid for doing nothing...

If you fools vote this lot back in next time, I promise you, thee will be no mercy on you.

Who The Shaitan is 'Christian Porter' anyway? Someone's snotty-nosed brat with a silver spoon stuck in his nether regions?

Yep -- another one of those generational dynasty politicians.... with no brains and no guts and no sense or empathy for anything but self.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Porter

.. and from WA where there is definitely something in the water......

One word sums up wa: NASTY!

That's about all she wrote.

I would add small, narrow-minded, provincial, petty, and lacking in intellect and general intelligence as befits a Banana Republic State that has given us the mega-genius Gina, who managed to inherit $26bn and wind it down to $12bn in a couple of years... and I wonder who is pulling the strings to get all these provincials from WA into the Cabinet? So far not one of them has made a single positive impact on anything, unless you count The Corrmanator smoking up the joint and raising the greenhouse gases...

All West Australians know c-word family... it's a disgrace over here but maybe it's the isolation!

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal Reply #53 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 4:49am Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:07pm: As Wilkie said today, some dumbferk public servant came up with this ever so obvious stupidly flawed process, and innocent people are being improperly harassed. The brand is the dogwhistle: all c-words!
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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #54 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 7:08am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2017 at 10:12pm:

The growing Centrelink debt scandal

All fixed - that'll be a government consulting fee for bludgeit-it repair....always happy to help out me old mates in politics for a fee..... not that there's anything wrong with that....

Centrelink! Guaranteed untouched by human hands!

has sir Chimp returned?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/Monkeys.jpg

Just a Chimp off the old block, I think......

Yes.

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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #55 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 8:05am

All the righties were creaming their pants with the announcement that data matching was going to save $3B from benefits cheats, now we find that in reality the government were using a flawed system to steal from innocent unemployed people. Don't know why anyone would be surprised.

Many of these people have had to pay even though they were innocent there is no way to fight it. This allows the government to falsely claim that the errors are about 1 in 5 when this is BS. It seems to be over 50%, possibly even 1 in 5 the other way.

Basically anyone who got a job was overpaid for that year using this system - all of them, think about it almost certainly more than 1 in 5, maybe 19 in 20.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 50505 Gender:	Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal Reply #56 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 8:18am I DO hope a class action does get taken, this is fraud on a massive scale by the govt.
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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #57 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 9:16am

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 5^th, 2017 at 8:18am:

I DO hope a class action does get taken, this is fraud on a massive scale by the govt.

The evidence for a class action is very strong. Centrelink's own website "recommends" that pay slips be kept for "six months". It shouldn't be difficult for a lawyer to pin that weak wording on Centrelink and hold them liable.

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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #58 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 8:52pm

F F S !

The Centrelink Twitter Account Is Now Referring People To Lifeline

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As current and former welfare recipients continue to grapple with the latest Centrelink fiasco, the agency has taken to tweeting out the phone number to Lifeline Crisis Support and Suicide Prevention.

The Centrelink twitter account shared the Lifeline phone number yesterday while communicating with a user who said he was struggling to find work, and was at risk of being hit with a debt notice due to an error in communication between Centrelink and his university

http://junkee.com/centrelink-twitter-account-now-referring-people-lifeline/93041

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Re: The growing Centrelink debt scandal
Reply #59 - Jan 5^th, 2017 at 9:02pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 5^th, 2017 at 8:52pm:

F F S !

The Centrelink Twitter Account Is Now Referring People To Lifeline

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As current and former welfare recipients continue to grapple with the latest Centrelink fiasco, the agency has taken to tweeting out the phone number to Lifeline Crisis Support and Suicide Prevention.

The Centrelink twitter account shared the Lifeline phone number yesterday while communicating with a user who said he was struggling to find work, and was at risk of being hit with a debt notice due to an error in communication between Centrelink and his university

http://junkee.com/centrelink-twitter-account-now-referring-people-lifeline/93041

Yeas, I saw that earlier. Mitigation of damages. Arse tin plating.....too late. I hope they get the arse sued off them. Plain straight out negligence. Breach of duty of care to the neighbour. Harm done. Winner.

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