Unforgiven wrote on Jan 17
th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
The example of the 72 year old woman with a house and $ 580,000 cash exemplifies why the system needs to be means tested.
The average life span of Australians is 82, which means this woman will probably not live more than another ten years.
If the house is worth $500,000 she should sell and she has $1 million plus which would giver her $100,000 a year without any investment income and capital growth.
She doesn't need the pension and could rent and live comfortably for the rest of her life by self financing.
In fact she could live extravagantly and piss it up over 5 years and then fall back on the pension.
One of the problems that this exposes is that people who have been saving and accumulating all their lives don't like spending their money.
So.....because one does not advance themselves and decides to either work for a shite wage or has not the skills to be more than a burger flipper, those that have the drive to advance themselves are to be punished.
The burger flipper, through laziness or incompetence never saves any money, pays less or no tax and then retires happily on a TAXPAYER funded pension.
But the engineer who has worked to advance himself, paid shiteloads of tax and amassed a sizable nest egg gets nothing?
Sounds fair.
But there are some holes in this argument.
Firstly, the family home was probably purchased 30 plus years ago.
With interest it has cost three, four maybe five times what it was purchased for.
The person has lived in it all their lives, know the area and are comfortable living there.
In the case of my Auntie 45 years.
Her husband has dementia, they are close to doctors and the shopping center and have friends and family close to them.
To move would be a death sentence, the husband would get lost or be in totally unfamiliar territory.
She would loose the help her family and friends give (so would have to be supported by paid help)
She would loose her pension and be expected to live on her savings, which after selling her house and combining everything would amount to less than the pension when stretched out over 20 years.
This whole exercise is a penny pinching, immoral, dirty, nasty trick propagated by a lazy incompetent greedy government.
If all politicians, public servants and wealthy hangers on were to have to pass the same asset test as normal Australians, there would be squillions of dollars so that every person in Australia could get a pension.
But they will not let go of their multi-million dollar perks, pensions, free flights and such.
Much better to attack the already impoverished pensioners.
These scum deserve nothing, what have they ever done that warrants such excess? ever?
I will have few assets when I retire.
I have 10 years to divest myself of any savings, shares and investments.
I would rather put the money in a tin can than have Govco assess it and stop my pension.
After all, to get the amount in that I can get off the pension in interest, Id need to have much more than I currently have without gradually diminishing my financial base.
Why should I pay for loosers?
Why should I fund bludgers?
Why should I have to pay tax all my life and get nothing back, zero, nada?
I have paid more tax than many of these dickheads have ever earned, I deserve, NO demand a fair share back.
The current regime of means testing everything is a very strong disincentive to save.
People who retire with savings get penalised. People who spend everything do not.
Even during the working life, involuntary unemployment can strike anyone. If it does, anyone with savings has to spend them before getting any help. This is the liquid assets threshold, and this threshold is half of what it was 23 years ago. Not purchasing power, raw dollars. Instead of being indexed to inflation, it has simply been cut then left alone. It's wrong. It's now one-third the value it had in 1994.
Means tests are just penny pinching nonsense that in many cases costs more to administer than it saves.
We could save a lot of money by scrapping the means tests and tax concessions, and simply paying everyone of pension age the aged pension - and restore the pension age to 65.