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Trump threatened Electoral College
Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:31pm
 
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So he does threat's and manipulation..   mmmmm ?
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Earlier today, it was reported that Donald Trump has begun privately threatening Republican members of the Electoral College with retribution if they fail to vote for him. This came to light when one of the Electors outed Trump publicly for it. We’ve done some subsequent legal research, and based on two very clearly worded federal statutes, it turns out Donald Trump violated the law in doing so.

First, here’s the Salon report from earlier today in which one member of the Electoral College publicly accused Donald Trump of making “threats of political reprisal,” including sabotaging the Elector’s political career. Now we move onto the legal research which I’ve done myself. I’m not an attorney, but the federal statutes in question are brief and are worded very clearly.

First we have “18 U.S. Code § 872 – Extortion by officers or employees of the United States.” According to the Legal Information Institute hosted on Cornell University’s website, it says the following in its entirety:

Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; but if the amount so extorted or demanded does not exceed $1,000, he shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
This makes clear that if Donald Trump is currently considered to be an “officer” or “employee” of the federal government, he’s violating the law if he uses his position to extort the Electors into voting for him by threatening to sabotage their careers. Now comes the question of whether Trump is legally considered an officer of the government even though he hasn’t yet been sworn in yet.

To that end, we have “18 U.S. Code § 871 – Threats against President and successors to the Presidency” which states in part that it’s illegal to threaten or harm the “President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer.” This statute clearly defines the President-elect as being an “officer” of the federal government. President-elect is a title which Donald Trump acknowledges on his verified Twitter page that he currently holds.

In other words, based on these two federal statutes, Donald Trump is currently defined as an officer of the federal government, and he is therefore legally prohibited from using his position to extort anyone – including the Electoral College members who now claim that he’s threatening him. In fact 18 U.S. Code 875 stipulates a more severe punishment because it took place across state lines, which 18 U.S. Code 3559 in turn defines as a felony.

But the real world question is not so much whether Trump would be arrested or imprisoned for these crimes. The legal upshot is that if this election is ultimately decided by the Supreme Court or any federal court, Trump’s violation of the law in the name of securing the Presidency could be used as a disqualifying factor by the judges in question.
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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:41pm
 
trump is, and always has been, a bully.
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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:45pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
trump is, and always has been, a bully.

With a cabinet of plutocrats and generals, Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat.
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Re: Trump threatened Electoral College
Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:00pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:45pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
trump is, and always has been, a bully.

With a cabinet of plutocrats and generals, Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat.



Just LOVE it!!!!


You stupid, ignorant virtue signalling idiots.  "Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat."  Maybe in Syria or some other 'culturally vibrant' third world hell-hole.

America has a constitution and a well-established system of checks and balances (missing from all the 'vibrant' countries).


Keep writhing on the floor, tormented by your idiocy.


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Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:07pm
 
do you losers ever quit..

you are a laughing stock...  Grin

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Reply #6 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:14pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:07pm:
do you losers ever quit..

you are a laughing stock...  Grin



Yes laughing at you. Sticking up for a disgusting pig like him speaks volumes about you dimwitty.
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Reply #7 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:18pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:45pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
trump is, and always has been, a bully.

With a cabinet of plutocrats and generals, Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat.



Just LOVE it!!!!


You stupid, ignorant virtue signalling idiots.  "Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat."  Maybe in Syria or some other 'culturally vibrant' third world hell-hole.

America has a constitution and a well-established system of checks and balances (missing from all the 'vibrant' countries).


Keep writhing on the floor, tormented by your idiocy.



Trump is already a plutocrat... How small a hop is that from becoming an autocrat?
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Re: Trump threatened Electoral College
Reply #8 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:32pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:45pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
trump is, and always has been, a bully.

With a cabinet of plutocrats and generals, Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat.



Just LOVE it!!!!


You stupid, ignorant virtue signalling idiots.  "Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat."  Maybe in Syria or some other 'culturally vibrant' third world hell-hole.

America has a constitution and a well-established system of checks and balances (missing from all the 'vibrant' countries).


Keep writhing on the floor, tormented by your idiocy.



Trump is already a plutocrat... How small a hop is that from becoming an autocrat?



Bandying Greek words about just makes you sound even stupider. You ARE seriously out of your min.

How many plutocrats and autocrats have captured the reigns of government in America since 1776?

Zero.

Why?  Try to answer that but be careful, it's a trick question. You are more than likely to make yourself look the complete idiot even more than you have so far.i








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Re: Trump threatened Electoral College
Reply #9 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:18pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:45pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
trump is, and always has been, a bully.

With a cabinet of plutocrats and generals, Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat.



Just LOVE it!!!!


You stupid, ignorant virtue signalling idiots.  "Trump is, and would have always been, an autocrat."  Maybe in Syria or some other 'culturally vibrant' third world hell-hole.

America has a constitution and a well-established system of checks and balances (missing from all the 'vibrant' countries).


Keep writhing on the floor, tormented by your idiocy.



Trump is already a plutocrat... How small a hop is that from becoming an autocrat?



Bandying Greek words about just makes you sound even stupider. You ARE seriously out of your min.

How many plutocrats and autocrats have captured the reigns of government in America since 1776?

Zero.

One... FDR.
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Reply #10 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:52pm
 
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Re: Trump threatened Electoral College
Reply #11 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 12:16pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:52pm:


Yes.

So the idea of threatening in this way is what you call fair and decent?
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Re: Trump threatened Electoral College
Reply #12 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 7:31pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:47pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Bandying Greek words about just makes you sound even stupider. You ARE seriously out of your min.

How many plutocrats and autocrats have captured the reigns of government in America since 1776?

Zero.

One... FDR.




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So you are here, wagging your finger and warning the world about a SECOND FDR???



You are out of your mind.


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Re: Trump threatened Electoral College
Reply #13 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:07pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 15th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:47pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Bandying Greek words about just makes you sound even stupider. You ARE seriously out of your min.

How many plutocrats and autocrats have captured the reigns of government in America since 1776?

Zero.

One... FDR.




Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


So you are here, wagging your finger and warning the world about a SECOND FDR???



You are out of your mind.





FDR???  not at all. Hitler?  yeah, thats the real fear.  And he was voted in too - by retards.
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Reply #14 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 15th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:47pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Bandying Greek words about just makes you sound even stupider. You ARE seriously out of your min.

How many plutocrats and autocrats have captured the reigns of government in America since 1776?

Zero.

One... FDR.

So you are here, wagging your finger and warning the world about a SECOND FDR???

You are out of your mind.

I'm not 'wagging my finger and warning the world about a SECOND FDR' at all...

If that's who he turns out to be...

After all, that would put him at the left, now wouldn't it...

But, having said that, his cabinet picks with its plutocrats and generals, makes it not so much a Cabinet... As a Junta...
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