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Bill Gates likens Trump to JFK
Dec 14th, 2016 at 5:34am
 
After talking with the President-elect, Bill Gates said he expects him to carry the US through new stages of innovation just like Kennedy did with the space program in the 1960s.
He said he believes the new administration will bring new ideas in areas like education, science & energy through greatly reduced regulation.
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Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 6:11am
 
JFK gave some great speeches but did little else during his short presidency. The moon landing came years after Kennedy's assassination.

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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:07am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 6:11am:
JFK gave some great speeches but did little else during his short presidency. The moon landing came years after Kennedy's assassination.


True...

But it was Kennedy's legacy defined by Kennedy in his inaugural speech ("All this will not be finished in the first 100 days. Nor will it be finished in the first 1,000 days, nor in the life of this Administration, nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin.") that prompted Johnson (who actually despised the Kennedys) to take on Kennedy's program defined by his address to the nation ("Today in this moment of new resolve, I would say to all my fellow Americans, let us continue."

There's no doubt that the US "chose to go to the moon in this decade" to honour the legacy of Kennedy.

He was, by that, a great leader, who could still inspire and lead his nation from beyond the grave.
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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:07am
 


Bill Gates likens Trump to JFK



Q.
Is Bill Gates also expecting Donald J Trump to be assassinated, as JFK was ?


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Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:09am
 
However, it was Kennedy's naivety and (maybe) youthful belligerence and posturing that brought the world closer to the edge of a nuclear holocaust than any President before or since.
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Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:44am
 
Had HRC won instead of Trump, Gates would be saying equally nice things about her - he isn't stupid.
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Reply #6 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:50am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:44am:
Had HRC won instead of Trump, Gates would be saying equally nice things about her - he isn't stupid.

I'd bet that would be true.
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Reply #7 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:05am
 
It would be a gross generalisation to say it, but Americans are called to action only when they have been inspired by great ideals or statement of resolve that are put to them simply ...

Like "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard" - the line that put Americans on the moon

Or

"There is nothing to fear but fear itself" - the line that inspired beaten-down Americans to stand and confront the Great Depression

Or

"Free at last, free at last, thank god almighty we are free at last" - the line that rededicated Americans (and two Presidents) to the cause of civil rights...

Well constructed rhetorical speeches may be, in themselves, flawless... But if they don't contain a sound 'one-liner' of clear morality or resolve (put to them preferably not using French/Latin/Greek derived words), then the effect on the American ear is at best tepid... Americans are anti-intellectual in this sense.
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Reply #8 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:09am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:44am:

Had HRC won instead of Trump, Gates would be saying equally nice things about her - he isn't stupid.






Leviticus 19:15
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.


Deuteronomy 1:17
Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.


Deuteronomy 16:19
Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous.


2 Samuel 14:14
For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God respect any person.....


2 Chronicles 19:7
Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.


Proverbs 24:23
These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.


Proverbs 28:21
To have respect of persons is not good: for for a piece of bread that man will transgress.


Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35  But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.


Romans 2:11
For there is no respect of persons with God.





Sadly, most men show themselves to be,        corrupted       in their judgements, in this world....


Matthew 15:7
Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


John 12:42
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
43  For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.




Dictionary;
corrupt = = willing to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.      evil or morally depraved.




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Re: Bill Gates likens Trump to JFK
Reply #9 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:57am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:09am:
However, it was Kennedy's naivety and (maybe) youthful belligerence and posturing that brought the world closer to the edge of a nuclear holocaust than any President before or since.


Nope!

It was Khrushchev's aggressive brinkmanship that stationed nuclear missiles in Cuba - 100 miles from the US mainland.
Totally unacceptable to the US.

Kennedy was a very fine president - maybe the best in more recent times.

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Re: Bill Gates likens Trump to JFK
Reply #10 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 10:22am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:57am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:09am:
However, it was Kennedy's naivety and (maybe) youthful belligerence and posturing that brought the world closer to the edge of a nuclear holocaust than any President before or since.


Nope!

It was Khrushchev's aggressive brinkmanship that stationed nuclear missiles in Cuba - 100 miles from the US mainland.
Totally unacceptable to the US.

Kennedy was a very fine president - maybe the best in more recent times.




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Re: Bill Gates likens Trump to JFK
Reply #11 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 10:28am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:57am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:09am:
However, it was Kennedy's naivety and (maybe) youthful belligerence and posturing that brought the world closer to the edge of a nuclear holocaust than any President before or since.


Nope!

It was Khrushchev's aggressive brinkmanship that stationed nuclear missiles in Cuba - 100 miles from the US mainland.
Totally unacceptable to the US.

Kennedy was a very fine president - maybe the best in more recent times.



Indeed.

And mentioning the alleged child rapist in the same breath is an insult to JFK's memory.

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Reply #12 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 10:30am
 
Richdude wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:57am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:09am:
However, it was Kennedy's naivety and (maybe) youthful belligerence and posturing that brought the world closer to the edge of a nuclear holocaust than any President before or since.


Nope!

It was Khrushchev's aggressive brinkmanship that stationed nuclear missiles in Cuba - 100 miles from the US mainland.
Totally unacceptable to the US.

Well... You're American after all!!

How does Kennedy's secret withdrawal of US bases in Turkey as part of the missile withdrawal deal fit in with unilateral Soviet aggression?

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Reply #13 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:31am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 5:34am:
After talking with the President-elect, Bill Gates said he expects him to carry the US through new stages of innovation just like Kennedy did with the space program in the 1960s.
He said he believes the new administration will bring new ideas in areas like education, science & energy through greatly reduced regulation.


Where did Bill Gates say this, Bogie? There's no source.

Did he tell you on the phone?
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Reply #14 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:45am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:31am:
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 5:34am:
After talking with the President-elect, Bill Gates said he expects him to carry the US through new stages of innovation just like Kennedy did with the space program in the 1960s.
He said he believes the new administration will bring new ideas in areas like education, science & energy through greatly reduced regulation.


Where did Bill Gates say this, Bogie? There's no source.

Did he tell you on the phone?


Bill spoke to him through the ether while he slumbered.
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Reply #15 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:32pm
 
When Kennedy said well go to the moon, two things no three:
1 the US was not in need of a stimulus through a big program like it is now
2 I don't believe they envisaged what technological innovation they would need to come up with OR what the long term spin offs would be
3 lurking behind it all was the rocket & missile development they knew they needed to stay ahead of the soviets

PS Karnal I'm past playing with children now
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Reply #16 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:38pm
 
Bill Gates likens Trump to JFK
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Reply #17 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:49pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:32pm:
PS Karnal I'm past playing with children now

Have they moved you to a new Parish?
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Reply #18 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:55pm
 
You're better than that.
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Reply #19 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 1:01pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:55pm:
You're better than that.

Come on... It was at least a little bit funny!

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Reply #20 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 1:10pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 1:01pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:55pm:
You're better than that.

Come on... It was at least a little bit funny!



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Reply #21 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 3:28pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 5:34am:
After talking with the President-elect, Bill Gates said he expects him to carry the US through new stages of innovation just like Kennedy did with the space program in the 1960s.
He said he believes the new administration will bring new ideas in areas like education, science & energy through greatly reduced regulation.




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Reply #22 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 3:59pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:32pm:
PS Karnal I'm past playing with children now

Have they moved you to a new Parish?


I believe they have, North. Bogie has been moved to a parish without any news.

He has to make it up.
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Reply #23 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:08am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 5:34am:
After talking with the President-elect, Bill Gates said he expects him to carry the US through new stages of innovation just like Kennedy did with the space program in the 1960s.
He said he believes the new administration will bring new ideas in areas like education, science & energy through greatly reduced regulation.

So far he's shaping up to be an amalgam of FDR, JFK and Nixon (Nixon the bad that is... Not Nixon the foreign affairs President).

Or in other words...

Left, left, right...
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Reply #24 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:23am
 
Hang on, isn't Bill Gates the Establishment?
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Reply #25 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:35am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:23am:
Hang on, isn't Bill Gates the Establishment?

Yeah, but keep it under your hat... No one's told Bill yet...
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Reply #26 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:37am
 
Here is the text of the video interview. Nowhere, does Gates actually condone Trump. He was very diplomatic, focusing what he hopes for in the new administration. ("has an opportunity") The oblique reference to Kennedy is not as if he is saying Trump is like Kennedy. He is doing a comparison of situation where the country became enthused. The media has turned Kennedy into a hero because of Cuba not the Space programme. No one seems to remember that it was Kennedy who first justified the invasion of Vietnam, a policy that ultimately got killed 50,000 Americans and 521 Australians.


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President-elect Donald Trump has an opportunity to establish "American leadership through innovation," Bill Gates told CNBC on Tuesday.

"A lot of his message has been about ... where he sees things not as good as he'd like," the billionaire Microsoft co-founder said on "Squawk Box."

"But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that," Gates continued, "I think whether it's education or stopping epidemics ... [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump's] administration [is] going to organize things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation."

Gates said he recently spoke on the phone with Trump, and discussed the power of innovation. "Of course, my whole career has been along those lines. And he was interested in listening to that. And I'm sure there will be further conversation."

Gates said it was the first time he had spoken with Trump, though he said they have mutual friends.
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Reply #27 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 10:26am
 
issuevoter wrote on Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:37am:
Here is the text of the video interview. Nowhere, does Gates actually condone Trump. He was very diplomatic, focusing what he hopes for in the new administration. ("has an opportunity") The oblique reference to Kennedy is not as if he is saying Trump is like Kennedy. He is doing a comparison of situation where the country became enthused. The media has turned Kennedy into a hero because of Cuba not the Space programme. No one seems to remember that it was Kennedy who first justified the invasion of Vietnam, a policy that ultimately got killed 50,000 Americans and 521 Australians.


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President-elect Donald Trump has an opportunity to establish "American leadership through innovation," Bill Gates told CNBC on Tuesday.

"A lot of his message has been about ... where he sees things not as good as he'd like," the billionaire Microsoft co-founder said on "Squawk Box."

"But in the same way President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that," Gates continued, "I think whether it's education or stopping epidemics ... [or] in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that [Trump's] administration [is] going to organize things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation."

Gates said he recently spoke on the phone with Trump, and discussed the power of innovation. "Of course, my whole career has been along those lines. And he was interested in listening to that. And I'm sure there will be further conversation."

Gates said it was the first time he had spoken with Trump, though he said they have mutual friends.


Well yes, but Bogie has a different transcript.

Bogie?
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