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Reply #45 - Dec 13th, 2016 at 5:09pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 5:03pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 12:54pm:
Im building a fence out the back in between posting here, my sister in law visited and was amazed at my building skills. I said its all there if you want to research it and put it into practise. I spent a bit of time of farms when i was young, you learn independence. My son can build a house from the ground up, self taught. Hold his own with any electrical engineer, again self taught. With the right direction from the old man of course.


Appreciate the concept, but put me down for NOT living in a house or any project wired up by a self-taught engineer. Unless you mean 'sparky' and not 'engineer' in which case... the same applies!
Sure, as you wish. My nephew who is a qualified electrician working FIFO routinely asks my sons advice.
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Reply #46 - Dec 13th, 2016 at 5:12pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 10:40am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 10:34am:
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Can you honestly imagine social media can now be abandoned... What is it that the world could return to in its place?

No, as i stated I believe we are evolving into 2 different species, masters of technology and slaves to it.


There are two species - but different to yours.

Species one - 'eyes down' looking at their smartphone 24 hours a day. Major cause of death - killed by car while crossing a road without looking.

Species two - 'eyes up' uses a smartphone but knows how to put it down and see the actual world. Major cause of death - old age.

I think we are going to need to wait for your dying of old age prediction and if you have been following my posts I dont eschew using technology but if you are using it for the wrong reasons your life is going nowhere.
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Reply #47 - Dec 13th, 2016 at 5:15pm
 
rhino wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 5:03pm:
rhino wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 12:54pm:
Im building a fence out the back in between posting here, my sister in law visited and was amazed at my building skills. I said its all there if you want to research it and put it into practise. I spent a bit of time of farms when i was young, you learn independence. My son can build a house from the ground up, self taught. Hold his own with any electrical engineer, again self taught. With the right direction from the old man of course.


Appreciate the concept, but put me down for NOT living in a house or any project wired up by a self-taught engineer. Unless you mean 'sparky' and not 'engineer' in which case... the same applies!
Sure, as you wish. My nephew who is a qualified electrician working FIFO routinely asks my sons advice.


There is a reason Electrical Engineering is a 4 year university degree. I am sure he is clever and knowlegable, but there is a big difference between that an being professional. I train post-graduate environmental workers/scientists. I use exclusively fully qualified and highly experience presenters. It is amazing watching the 'savvy amateurs' in the audience learn massive amounts. There is a big difference between a way that works and the way that is right.

All power to self-taught people as long as they never forget that they are self-taught.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #48 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:20am
 
rhino wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Im fairly sure they didnt have electronic media 100 years ago, multi nationals and other vested interests are using this to brainwash and fuel their propoganda campaigns. Did that need to be said?

The 'ruling elites' have always used the communications means of the day to advance their causes via 'public relations'...

In the early years of the 20th century, they used the telephone and radio... It doesn't make the telephone and radio, the icons of the mass communication revolution of their day, evils in themselves, but they were as utilised by giant corporations (UFC, Standard Oil...) just as the communications devices are exploited today...

The means of communication has advanced but human nature has not.
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Reply #49 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:23am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 1:54pm:
when i say "dont draw state off of your environment" i think NoN misunderstood.
what i am saying is that you have to draw happiness from within.

Yes, as echoed in multiple religions as various permutations of 'the kingdom within'...
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Reply #50 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:30am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 7:23am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 1:54pm:
when i say "dont draw state off of your environment" i think NoN misunderstood.
what i am saying is that you have to draw happiness from within.

Yes, as echoed in multiple religions as various permutations of 'the kingdom within'...



Lust of the flesh, lust of money, lust of power.
all that is of "this" world.
But this world is not of the fathers world.

I told yadda its a good self help book.

so is this one

The Bhagavad Gita (Sanskrit: भगवद्गीता, bhagavad-gītā in IAST, Sanskrit pronunciation: [ˈbʱaɡəʋəd̪ ɡiːˈt̪aː]; lit. "Song of the Lord"[1]), often referred to as simply the Gita, is a 700-verse Hindu scripture in Sanskrit that is part of the Hindu epic Mahabharata (chapters 25 - 42 of the 6th book of Mahabharata).
The Gita is set in a narrative framework of a dialogue between Pandava prince Arjuna and his guide and charioteer Lord Krishna. Facing the duty as a warrior to fight the Dharma Yudhha or righteous war between Pandavas and Kauravas, Arjuna is counselled by Lord Krishna to "fulfill his Kshatriya (warrior) duty as a warrior and establish Dharma."[2] Inserted[2] in this appeal to kshatriya dharma (chivalry)[3] is "a dialogue ... between diverging attitudes concerning methods toward the attainment of liberation (moksha)".[4] The Bhagavad Gita was exposed to the world through Sanjaya, who senses and cognises all the events of the battlefield.[5] Sanjaya is Dhritarashtra's advisor and also his charioteer.
The Bhagavad Gita presents a synthesis[6][7] of the concept of Dharma,[6][7][8] theistic bhakti,[9][8] the yogic ideals[7] of moksha[7] through jnana, bhakti, karma, and Raja Yoga (spoken of in the 6th chapter)[10] and Samkhya philosophy.

its basic message   ....WALK THE PATH FOR THE SAKE OF WALKING IT. THE PATH IS THE REWARD Wink Wink
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Reply #51 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:38am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 4:46pm:
and what is advertising ?

advertising is for the lower consciousness "mob".
advertising relies on groupthink.

despite the fact that aquascoots ideas are universally derided , let us examine more closely and see if those deriding them are the "lower consciousness mob, stuck in group think' to which i refer Wink

Yes, it's self-evident that advertising is successful only in that it can evoke its desired response from an individual responding emotionally in a predictable way...

Those who are on the (so-called) autistic spectrum are less likely to be predictable in their emotional response.

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Reply #52 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:01am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 8:38am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 4:46pm:
and what is advertising ?

advertising is for the lower consciousness "mob".
advertising relies on groupthink.

despite the fact that aquascoots ideas are universally derided , let us examine more closely and see if those deriding them are the "lower consciousness mob, stuck in group think' to which i refer Wink

Yes, it's self-evident that advertising is successful only in that it can evoke its desired response from an individual responding emotionally in a predictable way...

Those who are on the (so-called) autistic spectrum are less likely to be predictable in their emotional response.




Wink Wink, Aspergers people can go deep.
we are good with animals too Cheesy Cheesy.

i still want you to wander round the mall munching on a cucumber to see the awful world of group think.
They may tell you it is YOU who has a broken brain, but is that really the case  Wink
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Reply #53 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 10:42am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:01am:
i still want you to wander round the mall munching on a cucumber to see the awful world of group think.

Do you do that often? And why a cucumber?
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Reply #54 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:20am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 10:42am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:01am:
i still want you to wander round the mall munching on a cucumber to see the awful world of group think.

Do you do that often? And why a cucumber?


because the mob, chowing down as a packet of cheesels and a coke look at you like you are some sort of freak and then you can give your kids a little speech about not getting sucked into 'group think".


do you trust your brain NoN ?
are you your "brain"
are you your "thoughts"
or are you the awareness watching your thoughts?

i never really trusted my brain.
my brain led me to have stupid thoughts. it led me to have success barriers, it led me to feel depressed.

i view my brain like its a finnicky horse,
it wants to do one thing but i'm going to train it to do another.
now i like my brain. i know how its going to react and i know what i need to do for my brain and me to be a winning team.
It might be like a finnicky horsey but i understand how it works and when it plays up (like a finnicky horse will) i just tell it "no" and make it do as its told.

Like a horse, there is a process and a series of exercises and structures that keeps it performing well.

if i feed it good food.
if i go to the gym
if i read good stuff
if i only absorb the emotions of positive people
if i do activities which put me in a flow state
if i understand process orientation

then my brain doesnt give me as much trouble.

but your brain (like a finnicky horse) is always going to give you some anxieties, some problems, some rationalisatiosn, some reason to quit and just chill and be lazy and just chew grass or 'disengage".

thats fine.

but when it does that, you have to have the ability to get in a fight with your brain and let it know that youre going to win  Wink Wink

ekhardt tolle , despite being a very dull drab german author explained this best to me.
when i read his books, i had an epiphany
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Reply #55 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:22am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 10:42am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:01am:
i still want you to wander round the mall munching on a cucumber to see the awful world of group think.

Do you do that often? And why a cucumber?




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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #56 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:25am
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:20am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 10:42am:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:01am:
i still want you to wander round the mall munching on a cucumber to see the awful world of group think.

Do you do that often? And why a cucumber?


because the mob, chowing down as a packet of cheesels and a coke look at you like you are some sort of freak and then you can give your kids a little speech about not getting sucked into 'group think".


do you trust your brain NoN ?
are you your "brain"
are you your "thoughts"
or are you the awareness watching your thoughts?

There was a young man who said "Though",
"It seems that I know, that I know",
"What I would like to see",
"Is the I that knows me",
"When I know, that I know, that I know"...

Alan Watts

aquascoot wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 11:20am:
i never really trusted my brain.
my brain led me to have stupid thoughts. it led me to have success barriers, it led me to feel depressed.

i view my brain like its a finnicky horse,
it wants to do one thing but i'm going to train it to do another.
now i like my brain. i know how its going to react and i know what i need to do for my brain and me to be a winning team.
It might be like a finnicky horsey but i understand how it works and when it plays up (like a finnicky horse will) i just tell it "no" and make it do as its told.

Like a horse, there is a process and a series of exercises and structures that keeps it performing well.

if i feed it good food.
if i go to the gym
if i read good stuff
if i only absorb the emotions of positive people
if i do activities which put me in a flow state
if i understand process orientation

then my brain doesnt give me as much trouble.

but your brain (like a finnicky horse) is always going to give you some anxieties, some problems, some rationalisatiosn, some reason to quit and just chill and be lazy and just chew grass or 'disengage".

thats fine.

but when it does that, you have to have the ability to get in a fight with your brain and let it know that youre going to win  Wink Wink

ekhardt tolle , despite being a very dull drab german author explained this best to me.
when i read his books, i had an epiphany

Keep the faith!
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