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Dec 12th, 2016 at 9:20am
 
Watch out... They've gotten what they were after...

As you tweet, so shall you be tweeted? (Or maybe... Tweet others as you would have them tweet you...)

New York making Trump kids’ lives ‘horrible’

Ever since the president-elect’s win in November, his family’s life in the Big Apple has been turned upside down.

With 78.5 per cent of city voters casting their ballot for Hillary Clinton, liberal New Yorkers are still waging an anti-Trump campaign — often aimed at his three oldest children, Donald Jr., 38, Ivanka, 35, and Eric, 32, all born and raised in Manhattan.


http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/new-york-making-trump-kids-lives-hor...
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Reply #1 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 9:27am
 
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Reply #2 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 2:03pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 9:20am:
Watch out... They've gotten what they were after...

As you tweet, so shall you be tweeted? (Or maybe... Tweet others as you would have them tweet you...)

New York making Trump kids’ lives ‘horrible’

Ever since the president-elect’s win in November, his family’s life in the Big Apple has been turned upside down.

With 78.5 per cent of city voters casting their ballot for Hillary Clinton, liberal New Yorkers are still waging an anti-Trump campaign — often aimed at his three oldest children, Donald Jr., 38, Ivanka, 35, and Eric, 32, all born and raised in Manhattan.


http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/new-york-making-trump-kids-lives-hor...



Ironic, aint it? Payback time.  Trumps behaviour towards Clinton and her supporters was disgraceful and now they are getting it back.

Sympathy level.... zero.
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Reply #3 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 2:17pm
 
this is a good thing.
one of the problems for the children of rich and succesful parents is that they dont get the "evolutionary pressure" put on them which is so neccessary for growth.

The blow torch will be applied and the trump children will have to climb the narrow road to success , just like everyone else. they will have to learn to deal with setbacks, problems, haters, push thru barriers if they are to emerge as a boss gangsta dominator like their dad.

It is not about what you "have", it is about who you "become" on the journey up the "narrow road'.
They could just hire a chopper to take them to the top of the road but that defeats the purpose. if they want to become true "noble rightards", they must maintain focus, grit guts and determination. They cant be falling into a cry baby "frame" like Hilary, her supporters and gregorry and longweekend. They will go into the fire and come out purified. (a leftie goes into the fire and comes out all sad and butt hurt ) Wink Wink
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Reply #4 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 5:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
this is a good thing.
one of the problems for the children of rich and succesful parents is that they dont get the "evolutionary pressure" put on them which is so neccessary for growth.

I'd have to take issue with that... All monarchs ever crowned have a strong desire that their first born son is at least as good as the monarch (or better)... In some royal families (e.g. the Hanovers) this desire descended into a father-son 'war' worthy of a Shakespeare plot...

Then there's the now publicised life of Clyde and Kerry Packer and James Packer...

So, no, I don't think scions of Commercial and Industrial enterprises necessarily have no 'evolutionary pressure'... Maybe they have more to live up to than less... 

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Reply #5 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 6:54pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 5:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
this is a good thing.
one of the problems for the children of rich and succesful parents is that they dont get the "evolutionary pressure" put on them which is so neccessary for growth.

I'd have to take issue with that... All monarchs ever crowned have a strong desire that their first born son is at least as good as the monarch (or better)... In some royal families (e.g. the Hanovers) this desire descended into a father-son 'war' worthy of a Shakespeare plot...

Then there's the now publicised life of Clyde and Kerry Packer and James Packer...

So, no, I don't think scions of Commercial and Industrial enterprises necessarily have no 'evolutionary pressure'... Maybe they have more to live up to than less... 




this is true but my point is that having to deal with stress, scrutiny, the media, the mobs like or dislike of you will neccessarily force you to draw state from within.
What i mean by "draw state from within" is that when things dont go your way, you will need to stay present to the moment, accept the pain completely and draw happiness from inside of yourself (not from the environment).
this is one of the keys of moving up.
if you always draw state off of the environment, your emotional state is built on sand , because the environment around you will never give you what you want. 
But if you can go thru these painful lessons and still remain present and emotionally stable..then you are so much better off.  You now have the knowledge that you can "take that poo" This builds legitimate self esteem.
its why i say that theory is fine but you need to take "massive action".
And most people wont.
They are "prevention orientated and see only the downside"
They look at a cliff and they dont want to climb it because they only see a fall and getting hurt. they dont see the potential of a view from the top.
its why people stay in bad relationships, bad jobs, bad businesses...they fear pain more then being motivated by gain.
Now Trumps kids are getting some pain, whether they fear it or not..this will only make them stronger if they approach it with the right degree of acceptance
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Reply #6 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 7:55pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
What i mean by "draw state from within" is that when things dont go your way, you will need to stay present to the moment, accept the pain completely and draw happiness from inside of yourself (not from the environment).
this is one of the keys of moving up.
if you always draw state off of the environment, your emotional state is built on sand , because the environment around you will never give you what you want. 


OK, but you have to understand that not many of us can be as Nietzschean (or as Zen) in our isolation as it would take to follow what you prescribe and ignore the need for what you call 'environment' but what others might call 'community'...
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Reply #7 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:13pm
 
An example of what abusing a power differential can do to the powerless...

It has to be asked what kind of man (a father to a daughter, no less) would use his immense influence to take on someone so clearly unable to fight back and after only the mildest of questions regarding his policies towards women...

How life changed for young woman who challenged Donald Trump

LAUREN Batchelder stood up, took hold of a microphone and plucked up the courage to ask two questions of the now President-elect in front of a packed auditorium.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/how-life-changed-for-young-woman...
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Reply #8 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:54pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:13pm:
An example of what abusing a power differential can do to the powerless...

It has to be asked what kind of man (a father to a daughter, no less) would use his immense influence to take on someone so clearly unable to fight back and after only the mildest of questions regarding his policies towards women...

How life changed for young woman who challenged Donald Trump

LAUREN Batchelder stood up, took hold of a microphone and plucked up the courage to ask two questions of the now President-elect in front of a packed auditorium.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/how-life-changed-for-young-woman...


Her first question was a really stupid one. There'll be no roll back in women's wages in any Western country. I have to wonder whether she intended the question as a 'gotcha' moment or simply fell for the propaganda that Trump was 'like Hitler 'n' stuff'.   
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Reply #9 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:59pm
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:46pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:13pm:
An example of what abusing a power differential can do to the powerless...

It has to be asked what kind of man (a father to a daughter, no less) would use his immense influence to take on someone so clearly unable to fight back and after only the mildest of questions regarding his policies towards women...

How life changed for young woman who challenged Donald Trump

LAUREN Batchelder stood up, took hold of a microphone and plucked up the courage to ask two questions of the now President-elect in front of a packed auditorium.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/how-life-changed-for-young-woman...


Her first question was a really stupid one. There'll be no roll back in women's wages in any Western country. I have to wonder whether she intended the question as a 'gotcha' moment or simply fell for the propaganda that Trump was 'like Hitler 'n' stuff'.   

But would it have mattered if even both her questions were stupid ones?

How thin skinned would you have to be (and as a US Presidential candidate, no less) to react at all after the fact, to a very young woman's questions that were not offensive by any measure?
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Reply #11 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm
 
social media is what it is, haters gonna hate and nutjobs professing to be from whatever side of the political fence will target those who stupidly make their lives public on social media. We got people killing themselves now because someone calls them fat on facebook. Get a life and get off twitter.
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Reply #12 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 11:40pm
 
rhino wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm:
social media is what it is, haters gonna hate and nutjobs professing to be from whatever side of the political fence will target those who stupidly make their lives public on social media. We got people killing themselves now because someone calls them fat on facebook. Get a life and get off twitter.

Another great irony in the history of human mass-communication....

Communications mechanisms that have devoured a fundamental reason for their existence by making it dangerous (even mortally dangerous) for plebian political use, no matter how benign the communication...

Of course, it could be argued that this is just the latest incarnation of historical mechanisms that themselves brought the same dangers, like the printing press, or teaching the underclasses to read and write...

And, like the communications revolutions of the past, it seems our (so-called) democratic leaders have proved themselves no more enlightened (with regard to the right - or ability - of all to communicate freely) than medieval popes.
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Reply #13 - Dec 12th, 2016 at 11:45pm
 
I dont see social media as a communications revolution, I view it as a product of mass consumption cleverly marketed by multi nationals at the young much like cigarettes were and now becoming inter generationally accepted and utilised for political and other advertising purposes. Still poison though.
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Reply #14 - Dec 13th, 2016 at 12:17am
 
rhino wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 11:45pm:
I dont see social media as a communications revolution, I view it as a product of mass consumption cleverly marketed by multi nationals at the young much like cigarettes were and now becoming inter generationally accepted and utilised for political and other advertising purposes.

OK... But how does that not make it  a communications revolution?
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