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Dump Trump
Dec 9^th, 2016 at 8:55pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/opinion/how-would-the-electoral-college-dump-d...

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President-elect Donald Trump.
Recount battles in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are not expected to yield an Electoral College victory for Hillary Clinton. That leaves one last-ditch opportunity to bar Donald Trump from the White House: the Electoral College vote on Dec. 19, when 538 electors will gather in their respective states to choose the president. On Monday, Christopher Suprun, an elector from Texas, became the first Republican to say publicly that he won’t vote for Mr. Trump, who won his state. Mr. Suprun mentioned Gov. John Kasich of Ohio as a Republican he could support. But on Tuesday, Mr. Kasich said he wasn’t interested.

Republican insiders say there are more “faithless electors” like Mr. Suprun out there, quietly plotting to dump Mr. Trump. Here are four things to remember about their scheme.

1. It’s a moon shot. Electors are typically chosen by their state’s party leaders. In most states they’re legally bound to vote for their party’s nominee, but such laws haven’t been enforced and it’s accepted that electors can vote their consciences. Still, in our nation’s history, 99 percent of electors have stuck by the nominee. For Donald Trump to fall short of the 270 electoral votes he needs to take office, 37 electors would have to abandon their pledge to him. If neither he nor Mrs. Clinton reaches 270, that would throw the election to Congress, where …

2. Republicans control the House. The House would vote for the president from among the three top electoral vote-getters, which in this case would be Mr. Trump, Mrs. Clinton and any third person chosen by the greatest number of faithless electors. By law, that third person needn’t be a declared presidential candidate: He or she can be any American who meets the qualifications to serve. Each state delegation in the House casts one vote. And since House Republicans are inclined to vote for Mr. Trump …

3. Hillary Clinton won’t win. If faithless Republican and Democratic electors could agree on a more moderate Republican to put forward for the House vote (maybe even Mitt Romney?), he or she might stand a chance of defeating Mr. Trump. That’s one reason Mr. Suprun mentioned Mr. Kasich. But given that Mr. Trump won the electoral vote solidly, and beat 16 Republicans in the primary, including Mr. Kasich, who isn’t interested anyway

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150807 Gender:	Re: Dump Trump Reply #1 - Dec 9^th, 2016 at 8:59pm
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Dump Trump Reply #2 - Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:08pm something that has never happened before is unlikely ever to happen. not impossible, just unlikely.
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Melanias purse Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 101285	Re: Dump Trump Reply #3 - Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:20pm If Trump ever gets erected, I will leave the board for good.
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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Dump Trump Reply #4 - Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:54pm AiA wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:08pm: something that has never happened before is unlikely ever to happen. not impossible, just unlikely. But this is a bit special AiA.. they should make an exception in this case
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Re: Dump Trump
Reply #5 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:31am

Agnes wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

AiA wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

something that has never happened before is unlikely ever to happen. not impossible, just unlikely.

But this is a bit special AiA.. they should make an exception in this case

My advice is to go down to your local Bunnings and buy a ladder to get over yourselves. Trump will be President and a very good one.

Look at the gift he has already given you - the right to be offended!

His goal is to liberate the people from an oppressive gov/corporate system ie freedom.
Restore their ability to do what Americans do best - innovate and create. Thus returning prosperity.
The enemies of Trump is the enemy of mankind - go Trump.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Dump Trump Reply #6 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 6:43am It sounds simple, dump Trump. Such a move within the Republican Party was possible before the election. They were not brave enough then, and do not believe they are brave enough now. They know the political fallout with their voters is likely to destablise the Party.
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Re: Dump Trump
Reply #7 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm

Richdude wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:31am:

His goal is to liberate the people from an oppressive gov/corporate system ie freedom.

His one and only goal is to feather his own nest so that things will be easier for his wife and children once he dies.

i.e. to put things in place that will assist them to screw the country, government, and its citizens out of every cent they can get.

If you think for one minute that the alleged child rapist has the best interests of anyone else in mind, you are, with all due respect, certifiably insane.

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Re: Dump Trump
Reply #8 - Dec 10^th, 2016 at 7:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

Richdude wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:31am:

His goal is to liberate the people from an oppressive gov/corporate system ie freedom.

His one and only goal is to feather his own nest so that things will be easier for his wife and children once he dies.

i.e. to put things in place that will assist them to screw the country, government, and its citizens out of every cent they can get.

If you think for one minute that the alleged child rapist has the best interests of anyone else in mind, you are, with all due respect, certifiably insane.

You are insane because you believe in the alternative.

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Re: Dump Trump
Reply #9 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 3:01am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

Richdude wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:31am:

His goal is to liberate the people from an oppressive gov/corporate system ie freedom.

His one and only goal is to feather his own nest so that things will be easier for his wife and children once he dies.

i.e. to put things in place that will assist them to screw the country, government, and its citizens out of every cent they can get.

If you think for one minute that the alleged child rapist has the best interests of anyone else in mind, you are, with all due respect, certifiably insane.

Yes in your cynical nasty world such would seem that way.
But fortunately not all think as you do. There are many idealistic and altruistic people around. Trump is one.

If he wasn't why would he not take a Presidents salary and would he be working as hard as he does improving the lives of Americans? Surely he'd out playing golf and attending transgender events like Obama.

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Re: Dump Trump
Reply #10 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:10am

Richdude wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 3:01am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

Richdude wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 3:31am:

His goal is to liberate the people from an oppressive gov/corporate system ie freedom.

His one and only goal is to feather his own nest so that things will be easier for his wife and children once he dies.

i.e. to put things in place that will assist them to screw the country, government, and its citizens out of every cent they can get.

If you think for one minute that the alleged child rapist has the best interests of anyone else in mind, you are, with all due respect, certifiably insane.

Yes in your cynical nasty world such would seem that way.
But fortunately not all think as you do. There are many idealistic and altruistic people around. Trump is one.

If he wasn't why would he not take a Presidents salary and would he be working as hard as he does improving the lives of Americans? Surely he'd out playing golf and attending transgender events like Obama.

Really?

Idealistic and altruistic?

Do you think Trump will be divesting himself of his business interests to avoid, y'know, conflicts with his 'idealism and altruism'?

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10300 Gender:	Re: Dump Trump Reply #11 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:36am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm: His one and only goal is to feather his own nest so that things will be easier for his wife and children once he dies. gee, it must be so hard for them now with their millions. what's more money going to give them that they can't get. idiot.
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Re: Dump Trump
Reply #12 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:40am

AiA wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 9:08pm:

something that has never happened before is unlikely ever to happen. not impossible, just unlikely.

There was exactly one time, in the election of 1824, that a President was elected with neither a majority of the electoral vote nor a win in the popular vote. Though Andrew Jackson got more of the popular vote and the electoral vote, no candidate got the needed majority of the electoral vote to actually win. Instead, the House of Representatives cast a kind of tie-breaker vote (as required by the 12th Amendment of the Constitution) on February 9th, 1825, to make John Q. Adams the President. At the time, different states elected congressmen on different days in different months across 1824 and 1825, so the House was a mix of newly elected, incoming representatives and some outgoing (or soon to be reelected) representatives.
https://www.quora.com/When-has-the-electoral-college-voted-against-the-popular-v...

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Dump Trump
Reply #13 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:42am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

His one and only goal is to feather his own nest so that things will be easier for his wife and children once he dies.

gee, it must be so hard for them now with their millions. what's more money going to give them that they can't get. idiot. Roll Eyes

It's almost a cliche that, for those who have too much, there's no such thing as enough.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10300 Gender:	Re: Dump Trump Reply #14 - Dec 11^th, 2016 at 10:51am If he wanted more money then he could do more property deals, rather than the expensive and time-consuming task of running for president.
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