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Clinton not cleared yet
Dec 5^th, 2016 at 2:34pm

The House Oversight Committee under Rep. Chaffetz and the organisation Judicial Watch are vowing to continue their several lines of investigation.
Chaffetz says that an election being over does not mean that his committee does not have a duty to pursue the matters.

Trump has said he is not interested in pursuing Hillary but not everything is up to him.

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Re: Clinton not cleared yet
Reply #1 - Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

The House Oversight Committee under Rep. Chaffetz and the organisation Judicial Watch are vowing to continue their several lines of investigation.
Chaffetz says that an election being over does not mean that his committee does not have a duty to pursue the matters.

Trump has said he is not interested in pursuing Hillary but not everything is up to him.

Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each time? I would hope by now that would convince you that further investigations are merely political bullying. If the democrats had a house or senate majority do you think they would not be investigating Trump on about 198 different matters?

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Clinton not cleared yet Reply #2 - Dec 5^th, 2016 at 6:12pm If she hasn't broken any laws she doesn't have anything to worry about. Of course if she's lied to congressional committees etc that in itself would be a crime.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Clinton not cleared yet Reply #3 - Dec 5^th, 2016 at 6:32pm bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 6:12pm: If she hasn't broken any laws she doesn't have anything to worry about. Of course if she's lied to congressional committees etc that in itself would be a crime. More slanderous insinuations and false news propagated by Bogarde73, the biggest false news propagator on Ozpolitic.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20121 Gender:	Re: Clinton not cleared yet Reply #4 - Dec 5^th, 2016 at 7:48pm longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm: Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each ti Government emails on private server ring a bell? Found to have done so against all protocols. Not prosecuted. Definitely NOT cleared.
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Reply #5 - Dec 5^th, 2016 at 8:32pm

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each ti

Government emails on private server ring a bell? Found to have done so against all protocols. Not prosecuted. Definitely NOT cleared.

All the others who did the same thing not prosecuted either. Still fully investigated and no charges resulting.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41330 Gender:	Re: Clinton not cleared yet Reply #6 - Dec 5^th, 2016 at 10:52pm Cases are not closed unless there is a conviction or the suspect has died.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Clinton not cleared yet Reply #7 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 12:20am Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 10:52pm: Cases are not closed unless there is a conviction or the suspect has died. Sprintcyclist and Bogarde73 are unable to prove they are innocent.
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Re: Clinton not cleared yet
Reply #8 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 12:29am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

The House Oversight Committee under Rep. Chaffetz and the organisation Judicial Watch are vowing to continue their several lines of investigation.
Chaffetz says that an election being over does not mean that his committee does not have a duty to pursue the matters.

Trump has said he is not interested in pursuing Hillary but not everything is up to him.

Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each time?

I would hope by now that would convince you that further investigations are merely political bullying. If the democrats had a house or senate majority do you think they would not be investigating Trump on about 198 different matters?

Clinton trial witnesses have a habit of committing suicide just before they are about to testify. Sometimes by hanging, shooting themselves in the back of the head or in the chest - twice!

Comey found that Hillary was guilty but did not recommend charges be laid against her. That was the job of the DOJ who refused (being a political appointee
of Clinton). But the fact that she released national security secrets, lied under oath and destroyed evidence is a misdemeanor compared to the Clinton Foundation.

The Clinton Foundation took and gave bribes to heads of corporations and foreign govs - blatant corruption. The Clintons planned to expand this racket when Hillary was elected.

The Oz gov gave 75 million to the foundation to smooth the passage of the TPP. So your gov illegally gave 75 mill of your tax dollars to undermine Ozzie jobs so as to benefit a handful of globalists.
THAT'S TREASON!

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Re: Clinton not cleared yet
Reply #9 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 11:45am

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each ti

Government emails on private server ring a bell? Found to have done so against all protocols. Not prosecuted. Definitely NOT cleared.

Im not sure exactly what you think the 2 FBI investigations and the 2 Congress investigations were doing. They condemned her actions but found it was not criminal nor was any top-secret material compromised.

So tell me... what level of 'cleared' are you looking for? She has been investigated and cleared by the FBI - the only body able to send her to trial.

Would you like to have done something inappropriate and then cleared of criminal action and then have the police and other bodies continue to call for you to be investigated... again?

5 times is already a witchhunt.

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Re: Clinton not cleared yet
Reply #10 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 2:26pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each ti

Government emails on private server ring a bell? Found to have done so against all protocols. Not prosecuted. Definitely NOT cleared.

Im not sure exactly what you think the 2 FBI investigations and the 2 Congress investigations were doing. They condemned her actions but found it was not criminal nor was any top-secret material compromised.

So tell me... what level of 'cleared' are you looking for? She has been investigated and cleared by the FBI - the only body able to send her to trial.

Would you like to have done something inappropriate and then cleared of criminal action and then have the police and other bodies continue to call for you to be investigated... again?

5 times is already a witchhunt.

Witchhunt! What BS! They found the witch!
Comey found her guilty of gross negligence - a FELONY!
What don't you understand?
She knew what the letter C stood for but chose to ignore it. Because she doesn't give a s**t and national security wasn't important for her as making billions. She should be in jail!
No more excuses!

BTW: I see you have ignored the bribe made by the Oz gov to the "Clinton Foundation" as well.

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Re: Clinton not cleared yet
Reply #11 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 2:37pm

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each ti

Government emails on private server ring a bell? Found to have done so against all protocols. Not prosecuted. Definitely NOT cleared.

Im not sure exactly what you think the 2 FBI investigations and the 2 Congress investigations were doing. They condemned her actions but found it was not criminal nor was any top-secret material compromised.

So tell me... what level of 'cleared' are you looking for? She has been investigated and cleared by the FBI - the only body able to send her to trial.

Would you like to have done something inappropriate and then cleared of criminal action and then have the police and other bodies continue to call for you to be investigated... again?

5 times is already a witchhunt.

Witchhunt! What BS! They found the witch!
Comey found her guilty of gross negligence - a FELONY!
What don't you understand?
She knew what the letter C stood for but chose to ignore it. Because she doesn't give a s**t and national security wasn't important for her as making billions. She should be in jail!
No more excuses!

BTW: I see you have ignored the bribe made by the Oz gov to the "Clinton Foundation" as well.

If Comey had 'found her guilty' (which is the job of a jury, not Comey) she would have been charged. Instead, he found she had NOT committed a crime at all - just been irresponsible.

I dont care if YOU think she is guilty or not. She has faced FIVE investigations, two of which were by the FBI and been exonerated in each one. Why do you think another 13 investigations will come up with a different result?

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Re: Clinton not cleared yet
Reply #12 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 5:04pm

Richdude wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

lee wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 7:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2016 at 4:51pm:

Do you realise that she has been investigated FIVE TIMES already and cleared each ti

Government emails on private server ring a bell? Found to have done so against all protocols. Not prosecuted. Definitely NOT cleared.

Im not sure exactly what you think the 2 FBI investigations and the 2 Congress investigations were doing. They condemned her actions but found it was not criminal nor was any top-secret material compromised.

So tell me... what level of 'cleared' are you looking for? She has been investigated and cleared by the FBI - the only body able to send her to trial.

Would you like to have done something inappropriate and then cleared of criminal action and then have the police and other bodies continue to call for you to be investigated... again?

5 times is already a witchhunt.

Witchhunt! What BS! They found the witch!
Comey found her guilty of gross negligence - a FELONY!
What don't you understand?
She knew what the letter C stood for but chose to ignore it. Because she doesn't give a s**t and national security wasn't important for her as making billions. She should be in jail!
No more excuses!

BTW: I see you have ignored the bribe made by the Oz gov to the "Clinton Foundation" as well.

There is a difference between 'gross negligence' and 'criminal negligence'. Can you tell what it is? I'm guessing you cant.

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Reply #13 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 6:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

They condemned her actions but found it was not criminal nor was any top-secret material compromised.

You obviously don't have a security background. Anything above "Unclassified" is by definition "Classified". These include but are not limited to "Restricted", "Secret" and "Top Secret". It is an offence to have Classified government material on you private computer. It is offence to have "Unclassified" material, unless it has been released to you by an authorised approval agency.

"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classifiedinformation at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james...

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Reply #14 - Dec 6^th, 2016 at 6:28pm

lee wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 6:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

They condemned her actions but found it was not criminal nor was any top-secret material compromised.

You obviously don't have a security background. Anything above "Unclassified" is by definition "Classified". These include but are not limited to "Restricted", "Secret" and "Top Secret". It is an offence to have Classified government material on you private computer. It is offence to have "Unclassified" material, unless it has been released to you by an authorised approval agency.

And you clearly don't have a law enforcement background. FIVE investigations have occured and NONE have found her actions to be criminal. You need to ask yourself the single question as to why 5 investigations by bodies clearly antagonistic to her have declined to prosecute.

Continuing to try and prosecute Clinton would be an enormous mistake for Trump because remember, in 4 years he will be out of office and ready to face a raft of criminal charges from his time in office.

This is already a witchhunt. Trump already promised to be a bad loser, but he is apparently a pretty bad winner as well. Grace and statesmanship are still well outside his reach and apparently also many of his supporters.

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