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polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 5:34pm:



Reading the Pravda on the Yarra has rotted your brain, pal.


Wall Street donating to Hill and Bill for influence - one thing.

Getting guys who know how Walls Street works but owing them no favours because you haven't taken any donations from them and their pals - that's another thing.


But as Waleed Aly doesn't tell you that distinction you will never comprehend it unprompted.

You know the conservatives won't like you people pointing out the truth ?

Though I doubt they even they really believed that BS, nobody is more a part of the establishment than Donald the mad rooter Trump.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:31am:


Well prepare yourself for disappointment Herb, nothing much if anything will change!

All politicians are crooks just some are bigger crooks than others.

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:28pm:


Um, no. Not even close.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:19am:

I'd bet that's the primary fundamental, right there...

It's now a universal motif for Trump supporters, from every socioeconomic rank, racial and gender divide to respond to 'Why?' with permutations of 'I wanted to send the message to the establishment that I wanted change'.

Nothing, it seems, not even their '3:00 AM terrors' that Trump may present a mortal threat to the state (and most supporters will admit at least to profound 'misgivings'), could derail their resolution that they were not voting for the man as they were voting for change... Any change.

In that, even Bernie Sanders could quite probably have won the election for the Democrats, because people, who no longer believe in something, do not believe in nothing, they believe in anything... Even something as nebulous and dangerous as change for its own sake.

The very best Americans can hope for now is that Trump reveals himself as a latter day 'New Dealer' who will emerge from his narcissistic fog, see the need for a hard swing, not to the right, but to the left (as Roosevelt did when he asked for, and received from Congress, powers as great as that would be given to him, if the US was invaded) and become, like Roosevelt, the hard 'leftist' the establishment (or his supporters) never saw coming.

And here's the Ur-bedwetter of the snivelling 'not my prez' ninnies:



I bounded into the space at 6 o’clock in a frolic of an outfit: a red belt, white skinny jeans, and a blue Hillary-as-Rosie-the-Riveter T-shirt, my hair lavishly coiffed into a confident pompadour.

At first the sprawling party was a lark. I hobnobbed and table hopped. I couldn’t wait for a catharsis 25 years in the making. My only concern was the inevitable hangover.

Then came the 9 o’clock hour. Results from battleground states trickled in and an incredulous anxiety took hold. I left the VIP party area for a spell and stood with the expectant crowd before the elaborate victory speech stage.
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uring the final hour of November 8, I had committed myself to institutional psychiatric care. A generation or two ago they would have said I was suffering a nervous breakdown: catatonic, plagued by involuntary jerking motions (my head furiously shaking “No!”), speech patterns disjointed, weeping uncontrollably.
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Terror drove me to this interrupted state. I was afraid for the nation, for the stigmatized and oppressed. I was also afraid for my own life. Because the values and principles I hold dear felt fatally incompatible with the hate and bigotry that Trumpism had come to stand for. I did not want to live in a world that would elect such a man as president.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/my-post-election-crisis-a-top-hillary-fundra...

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 8:52am:



How good does it feel Frank to support a sexual predator, proud of yourself ?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 10:36am:



What debt is that?

And who in his cabinet are current Wall Street operatives?

Fuzzball wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:50am:



He is appointing his cabinet NOW. It is certainly fair to point out that far from 'draining the swamp' he is giving the swamp-creatures more power.

If you supported Trump you have just been made a fool of. Of course to have voted Trump in the first place you had to be a fool so perhaps there isnt any difference.

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 8:48am:


What exactly is your smacking problem, Frank? Did Grumpy Trumpy not fulfill your white entitlement? It's pinpricks like yourself (and Sprinty Boy with Goebbels) who don't know poo about politics much less America politics who always have loudest mouths.

I never was an fan of Hillary but something is fundamentally wrong with any system where the "winner" of an election gets 2.5 million (so far) LESS votes than the "loser" of the election.

The other thought that comes to mind is the idea that the so-called "founding fathers" actually intended the Electoral College as a "fail safe" to prevent somebody who was completely incompetent and thoroughly incapable of holding the office from being inaugurated. While it would be tempting to apply that idea to Reagan or Bush - at least they allegedly had served as governors, so on paper, they were "qualified".

Grumpy Trumpy is not. Day by day his inane cabinet picks are proving exactly how much of a incompetent asshole he is. It's not simply that he's nominating scab rag right wing extremists, it's that he is nominating them for jobs they are not remotely qualified for. They are nothing more than Wall Street crooks - the same type of crook Grumpy Trumpy called Clinton as being.

This is EXACTLY the type of situation the Electoral College allegedly exists for. Let's hope they act accordingly. Don't pick Trump OR Hillary. Find an FDR Democrat or an Eisenhower Republican. Either one would be an improvement over this dayglo orange clusterbugger.

America needs to rotate its primary & caucus schedule every election cycle, instead of starting every election in corporate-dominated Iowa and tiny little rich bitch New Hampshire only to hit just about every shithole state in the ol' Confederacy all of which favors the most right wing nominees of either party.

Not to mention it lags way too long. Even your capitalist industrialized country has its entire election season over and done within a matter of weeks, or a few months at most. The US presidential election has now become a full two year process. This particular election cycle felt more like 10 years and in a lot of way, its still not over.

A 4 year rotation with all the primaries & caucuses should held 10 or 12 at a time, every weekend in April of election year, and they should be on the weekends, so most people will have the day off.

Extended voting hours from 6 AM to 10 PM to allow the most possible voting availability for those who have to work weekends, or those who have religious reasons which would prevent them from voting at certain hours of the day. Anybody who still can't vote within that schedule can get an absentee ballot, or vote by proxy in the caucus, if their own state party allows it so that this Trump poo never happens again.

That dayglo orange buggerer is an outright embarrassment and a genuine threat to humanity. I seriously wonder what pinpricks like yourself will be spewing when he inflicts the damage he is going to do to the world.

Marla wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 2:41pm:


Post of the month.

Marla wrote on Dec 7^th, 2016 at 2:41pm:

Here's a prediction... What's the bet he overlaps their respective remits such that he hogties them to the point where they cannot fully execute their duties...