http://www.theage.com.au/comment/can-we-stop-pretending-that-donald-trumps-campa...

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polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 5:34pm:



Reading the Pravda on the Yarra has rotted your brain, pal.


Wall Street donating to Hill and Bill for influence - one thing.

Getting guys who know how Walls Street works but owing them no favours because you haven't taken any donations from them and their pals - that's another thing.


But as Waleed Aly doesn't tell you that distinction you will never comprehend it unprompted.

You know the conservatives won't like you people pointing out the truth ?

Though I doubt they even they really believed that BS, nobody is more a part of the establishment than Donald the mad rooter Trump.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:31am:


Well prepare yourself for disappointment Herb, nothing much if anything will change!

All politicians are crooks just some are bigger crooks than others.

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:28pm:


Um, no. Not even close.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:19am:

I'd bet that's the primary fundamental, right there...

It's now a universal motif for Trump supporters, from every socioeconomic rank, racial and gender divide to respond to 'Why?' with permutations of 'I wanted to send the message to the establishment that I wanted change'.

Nothing, it seems, not even their '3:00 AM terrors' that Trump may present a mortal threat to the state (and most supporters will admit at least to profound 'misgivings'), could derail their resolution that they were not voting for the man as they were voting for change... Any change.

In that, even Bernie Sanders could quite probably have won the election for the Democrats, because people, who no longer believe in something, do not believe in nothing, they believe in anything... Even something as nebulous and dangerous as change for its own sake.

The very best Americans can hope for now is that Trump reveals himself as a latter day 'New Dealer' who will emerge from his narcissistic fog, see the need for a hard swing, not to the right, but to the left (as Roosevelt did when he asked for, and received from Congress, powers as great as that would be given to him, if the US was invaded) and become, like Roosevelt, the hard 'leftist' the establishment (or his supporters) never saw coming.

And here's the Ur-bedwetter of the snivelling 'not my prez' ninnies:



I bounded into the space at 6 o’clock in a frolic of an outfit: a red belt, white skinny jeans, and a blue Hillary-as-Rosie-the-Riveter T-shirt, my hair lavishly coiffed into a confident pompadour.

At first the sprawling party was a lark. I hobnobbed and table hopped. I couldn’t wait for a catharsis 25 years in the making. My only concern was the inevitable hangover.

Then came the 9 o’clock hour. Results from battleground states trickled in and an incredulous anxiety took hold. I left the VIP party area for a spell and stood with the expectant crowd before the elaborate victory speech stage.
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uring the final hour of November 8, I had committed myself to institutional psychiatric care. A generation or two ago they would have said I was suffering a nervous breakdown: catatonic, plagued by involuntary jerking motions (my head furiously shaking “No!”), speech patterns disjointed, weeping uncontrollably.
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Terror drove me to this interrupted state. I was afraid for the nation, for the stigmatized and oppressed. I was also afraid for my own life. Because the values and principles I hold dear felt fatally incompatible with the hate and bigotry that Trumpism had come to stand for. I did not want to live in a world that would elect such a man as president.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/my-post-election-crisis-a-top-hillary-fundra...

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 8:52am:



How good does it feel Frank to support a sexual predator, proud of yourself ?