Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print
Trump wants to halt recount.. (Read 1891 times)
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Trump wants to halt recount..
Dec 2nd, 2016 at 9:49pm
 
he is getting very nervous..what does he have to hide?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-pennsylvania-recount-232103

Quote:
Attorneys for President-elect Donald Trump have moved to block the vote recount in Pennsylvania, adding to complaints filed to stop similar proceedings in Michigan and Wisconsin.

"Despite being no more than a blip on the electoral radar, Stein has now commandeered Pennsylvania's electoral process, with an eye toward doing the same to the Electoral College," the complaint filed Thursday states. "There is no evidence -- or even an allegation -- that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred.".............
Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #1 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 10:15pm
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-michigan-recount_us_5840b020e4b017f...

Quote:
President-elect Donald Trump, who has claimed the election was riddled with fraud, has filed an objection to block what his lawyers called a “lawless, insulting” request for a recount in Michigan that had been scheduled to begin Friday.

A 36-page challenge filed by attorneys on behalf of Trump and the Michigan Republican Party argues that the “farce” recount called for by Green Party candidate Jill Stein “sows doubts regarding the legitimacy of the presidential election,” creates “constitutional chaos” and threatens to knock the Electoral College “off its hinges.”

The objection, filed Thursday with the Board of State Canvassers, argues that Stein has no standing to demand a recount because she has no chance of winning a recount. Stein, therefore, cannot be an “aggrieved” party even if fraud or mistakes are discovered, the document argues.

Stein “finished no higher than fourth in any state where she appeared on the ballot,” the filing states. “Yet despite being just a blip on the electoral radar, Stein has now commandeered Michigan’s electoral process” by demanding an “expensive, time-consuming” recount, the objection adds"


Trump is crying foul regarding the recount because why exactly..mmm

Constitutional chaos will follow a recount he says? think that horse has already bolted ...
Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
AiA
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 18405
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #2 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 11:29pm
 
with all his blathering about "massive voter fraud" you'd think he would want every single vote in every single state hand-counted ...
Back to top
 

“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Melanias purse
Gold Member
*****
Online


Australian Politics

Posts: 101326
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #3 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 11:52pm
 
The game's rigged.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #4 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 11:58pm
 
right. So Trumps not allowed to play the game everyone else does?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Melanias purse
Gold Member
*****
Online


Australian Politics

Posts: 101326
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #5 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 12:49am
 
rhino wrote on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 11:58pm:
right. So Trumps not allowed to play the game everyone else does?


Not when he's pretending to shake it up, drain the swamp and make Amerika great again, no.

But then, did you ever believe him?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
AiA
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 18405
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #6 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 12:55am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 11:52pm:
The game's rigged.


The game is rigged but the election was not. Why is Trump wanting to halt a recount?
Back to top
 

“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Mortdooley
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 7311
Texas Gulf Coast
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #7 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am
 
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.
Back to top
 

The only difference between a Communist and a Democrat is the spelling.
 
IP Logged
 
AiA
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 18405
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #8 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:51am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


Mortie, please give us evidence that the dead and illegal voted. The world is waiting ...
Back to top
 

“Jerry, just remember: It’s not a lie … if you believe it.” George Costanza
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Sprintcyclist
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 41330
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #9 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 3:59am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:51am:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


Mortie, please give us evidence that the dead and illegal voted. The world is waiting ...


We don't have to.
We won.

It makes ALL the difference
Back to top
 

Modern Classic Right Wing
 
IP Logged
 
NorthOfNorth
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 17258
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #10 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:07am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 3:59am:
AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:51am:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


Mortie, please give us evidence that the dead and illegal voted. The world is waiting ...


We don't have to.
We won.

How is it that you won? Did you vote as an American citizen? Or, as a non-citizen, did you vote illegally?
Back to top
 

Conviction is the art of being certain
 
IP Logged
 
Mortdooley
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 7311
Texas Gulf Coast
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #11 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:08am
 
AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:51am:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


Mortie, please give us evidence that the dead and illegal voted. The world is waiting ...



I have already posted links and will not bother doing it again!

I could always quote your hero from 2008 when Obama  said  " I won, you lost" and then placed his hand with middle finger extended up to his face.

The progressives will have to wait at least another four years before globalism destroys the sovereignty of America.
Back to top
 

The only difference between a Communist and a Democrat is the spelling.
 
IP Logged
 
bogarde73
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Anti-Global & Contra Mundum

Posts: 18443
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:16am
 
Stein/Clinton don't really want a recount, they want a stalled count in the hope the electoral votes are not included.
But that won't change anything. Trump still wins.
Get used to it snowflakes. Is it really worth it to put yourselves through all this angst and still lose?
Back to top
 

Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.
 
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 150850
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #13 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:52am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:08am:
AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:51am:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


Mortie, please give us evidence that the dead and illegal voted. The world is waiting ...



I have already posted links ...




Why lie?


Back to top
 

GOP = Guardians Of Paedophiles
 
IP Logged
 
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #14 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:54am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:16am:
Stein/Clinton don't really want a recount, they want a stalled count in the hope the electoral votes are not included.
But that won't change anything. Trump still wins.
Get used to it snowflakes. Is it really worth it to put yourselves through all this angst and still lose?

  They would not spend this much money Bog if there were not a serious doubt..no one would do that.. and why is Trump so nervous..I know Hillary is not everyone's favorite but if there has been fraud committed somewhere in the process it ought to be flushed out..Trump is guilty as sin..and while I don't expect a recount will deliver Clinton a victory I hope whatever deceit has been at work here is exposed..there are serious discrepancies here and electoral experts have picked up anomalies that stand out enough to warrant a 2nd look.. so lets see shall we..if they can prove fraud the election should be held again.
Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #15 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:56am
 
Melanias purse wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 12:49am:
rhino wrote on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 11:58pm:
right. So Trumps not allowed to play the game everyone else does?


Not when he's pretending to shake it up, drain the swamp and make Amerika great again, no.

But then, did you ever believe him?
Did you believe Obama? Yes we can, remember that? what changed?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #16 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:59am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 3:59am:
AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:51am:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


Mortie, please give us evidence that the dead and illegal voted. The world is waiting ...


We don't have to.
We won.


It makes ALL the difference

what state in America  are you from Sprint lol North or South Island. ?
Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 150850
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #17 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:00am
 
Agnes wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:59am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 3:59am:
AiA wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:51am:
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


Mortie, please give us evidence that the dead and illegal voted. The world is waiting ...


We don't have to.
We won.


It makes ALL the difference

what state in America  are you from Sprint lol North or South Island. ?


Sprint lives in the state of confusion.

He spent most of his younger years in the state of denial, though.

Back to top
 

GOP = Guardians Of Paedophiles
 
IP Logged
 
Marla
Gold Member
*****
Offline


A joint a day keeps the
MAGA away

Posts: 14685
Colorado
Gender: female
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #18 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:01am
 
rhino wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:56am:
Did you believe Obama? Yes we can, remember that? what changed?



I did. Obama assaulted the working class and Trump will pick up where he left off.
Back to top
 

I like takin' Tuinal. It keeps me edgy and mean. I'm a teenage schizoid I'm a teenage dope fiend
 
IP Logged
 
Dnarever
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 61322
Here
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #19 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:04am
 
Trump wants to halt recount..

Of course he does it cost him a fortune to get the results he wanted.

He told us from the beginning that it was rigged.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
rhino
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 17179
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #20 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:07am
 
Marla wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:01am:
rhino wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:56am:
Did you believe Obama? Yes we can, remember that? what changed?



I did. Obama assaulted the working class and Trump will pick up where he left off.
yes, more than likely. Both are tools of the multi national corporations who run your country.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Re: Trump backers go to court..
Reply #21 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:45am
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/trump-recounts-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylva...

OMG..this just makes him look so dodgy/desperate.. he is afraid of what will be found.  Cool

Quote:
Mich. — President-elect Donald J. Trump and his allies have filed separate legal challenges in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in a suddenly robust effort to stop the presidential election recount efforts there.

None of the challenges immediately derailed the recounts in those states, but they promised to complicate them with more legal wrangling by Mr. Trump, groups supportive of him, state officials and Jill Stein, the Green Party presidential candidate. Ms. Stein initiated the recounts and a successful fund-raising drive after suggesting that voting machines were susceptible to hacking.

On Friday, Mr. Trump filed a lawsuit in the Michigan Court of Appeals in an attempt to block the recount there, which had not yet begun. “If the Bureau of Elections moves forward with the recount, it will waste the State’s scarce resources, create a logistical nightmare for counties across the State, and assure that Michigan’s Electoral College voters will not be counted,” the filing said.

Bill Schuette, Michigan’s attorney general, filed a separate lawsuit in a bid to halt the recount, saying that it put the state’s voters at risk of “paying millions and potentially losing their voice in the Electoral College in the process.”
Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Re:Dodgey Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #22 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:46am
 
..
Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Dodgy Trump to halt recount
Reply #23 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:48am
 
Agnes wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:45am:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/trump-recounts-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylva...

OMG..this just makes him look so dodgy/desperate.. he is afraid of what will be found.  Cool

Quote:
Mich. — President-elect Donald J. Trump and his allies have filed separate legal challenges in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in a suddenly robust effort to stop the presidential election recount efforts there.

None of the challenges immediately derailed the recounts in those states, but they promised to complicate them with more legal wrangling by Mr. Trump, groups supportive of him, state officials and Jill Stein, the Green Party presidential candidate. Ms. Stein initiated the recounts and a successful fund-raising drive after suggesting that voting machines were susceptible to hacking.

On Friday, Mr. Trump filed a lawsuit in the Michigan Court of Appeals in an attempt to block the recount there, which had not yet begun. “If the Bureau of Elections moves forward with the recount, it will waste the State’s scarce resources, create a logistical nightmare for counties across the State, and assure that Michigan’s Electoral College voters will not be counted,” the filing said.

Bill Schuette, Michigan’s attorney general, filed a separate lawsuit in a bid to halt the recount, saying that it put the state’s voters at risk of “paying millions and potentially losing their voice in the Electoral College in the process.”

Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
Sprintcyclist
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 41330
Gender: male
Re: Trump backers go to court..
Reply #24 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 11:10am
 
Agnes wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:45am:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/trump-recounts-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylva...

OMG..this just makes him look so dodgy/desperate.. he is afraid of what will be found.  Cool

Quote:
Mich. — President-elect Donald J. Trump and his allies have filed separate legal challenges in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in a suddenly robust effort to stop the presidential election recount efforts there.

None of the challenges immediately derailed the recounts in those states, but they promised to complicate them with more legal wrangling by Mr. Trump, groups supportive of him, state officials and Jill Stein, the Green Party presidential candidate. Ms. Stein initiated the recounts and a successful fund-raising drive after suggesting that voting machines were susceptible to hacking.

On Friday, Mr. Trump filed a lawsuit in the Michigan Court of Appeals in an attempt to block the recount there, which had not yet begun. “If the Bureau of Elections moves forward with the recount, it will waste the State’s scarce resources, create a logistical nightmare for counties across the State, and [highlight]assure that Michigan’s Electoral College voters will not be counted,” the filing said.[/highlight]

Bill Schuette, Michigan’s attorney general, filed a separate lawsuit in a bid to halt the recount, saying that it put the state’s voters at risk of “paying millions and potentially losing their voice in the Electoral College in the process.”



Quote:
..............assure that Michigan’s Electoral College voters will not be counted,”............


surely michigans voters should have representation via their electoral college votes

jill steins last minute rush to pervert the election should be thrown out of court
Back to top
 

Modern Classic Right Wing
 
IP Logged
 
Bias_2012
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10766
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #25 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:08pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:16am:
Stein/Clinton don't really want a recount, they want a stalled count in the hope the electoral votes are not included.
But that won't change anything. Trump still wins.
Get used to it snowflakes. Is it really worth it to put yourselves through all this angst and still lose?



Another reason for threatening a recount is simply to boost the Democrat losers' sagging morale

However, the Democrats now have a problem, two distinct camps, Bernie supporters, and Clinton supporters

The Clinton supporters are really Democrat voters' and don't care about Clinton so much as they care about Obama's globalist philosophy, so they'll be looking for another leader who can win over voters on that philosophy

This will clash with Bernie's policies, his supporters were pretty adamant Bernie had the goods
Back to top
 

Our Lives Are Governed By The Feast & Famine Variable
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #26 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:39pm
 
It wouldnt be a REpublican if it wasnt complaining about recounts - as in 2000.

But seriously, does anyone in Australia complain or take legal action AGAINST recounts? A hand recount is considered one of the basic protections against miscounts and are routinely done here if the margin is small. 

It reflects on the character of people that oppose free and open recounts. it smells of opposing democracy, honest and transparency. If I were trump I would take the opportunity to look magnanimous and Presidential but supporting the recount knowing there was .0001% chance anything would change. But then again, I am clearly a bit more generous and open than Herr Trump.
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Trump backers go to court..
Reply #27 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 2:41pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 11:10am:
Agnes wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 10:45am:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/trump-recounts-wisconsin-michigan-pennsylva...

OMG..this just makes him look so dodgy/desperate.. he is afraid of what will be found.  Cool

Quote:
Mich. — President-elect Donald J. Trump and his allies have filed separate legal challenges in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in a suddenly robust effort to stop the presidential election recount efforts there.

None of the challenges immediately derailed the recounts in those states, but they promised to complicate them with more legal wrangling by Mr. Trump, groups supportive of him, state officials and Jill Stein, the Green Party presidential candidate. Ms. Stein initiated the recounts and a successful fund-raising drive after suggesting that voting machines were susceptible to hacking.

On Friday, Mr. Trump filed a lawsuit in the Michigan Court of Appeals in an attempt to block the recount there, which had not yet begun. “If the Bureau of Elections moves forward with the recount, it will waste the State’s scarce resources, create a logistical nightmare for counties across the State, and [highlight]assure that Michigan’s Electoral College voters will not be counted,” the filing said.[/highlight]

Bill Schuette, Michigan’s attorney general, filed a separate lawsuit in a bid to halt the recount, saying that it put the state’s voters at risk of “paying millions and potentially losing their voice in the Electoral College in the process.”



Quote:
..............assure that Michigan’s Electoral College voters will not be counted,”............


surely michigans voters should have representation via their electoral college votes

jill steins last minute rush to pervert the election should be thrown out of court


Of course they should count. But even more importantly is that they count for the candidate they ACTUALLY voted for. Hence a recount.
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
Dnarever
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 61322
Here
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #28 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 3:03pm
 
Agnes wrote on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 9:49pm:
he is getting very nervous..what does he have to hide?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-pennsylvania-recount-232103

Quote:
Attorneys for President-elect Donald Trump have moved to block the vote recount in Pennsylvania, adding to complaints filed to stop similar proceedings in Michigan and Wisconsin.

"Despite being no more than a blip on the electoral radar, Stein has now commandeered Pennsylvania's electoral process, with an eye toward doing the same to the Electoral College," the complaint filed Thursday states. "There is no evidence -- or even an allegation -- that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred.".............


the complaint filed Thursday states. "There is no evidence -- or even an allegation -- that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred."..


There is no evidence


The electronic vote was 7% different from the rest of the vote which makes it a mathematically improbable result statistically. While this can happen dependent on demographic it is clearly questionable.

or even an allegation


For months Trump had been telling anyone and everyone that it was rigged, Mr Trump has clearly alleged that the vote was rigged.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #29 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 3:24pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 3:03pm:
Agnes wrote on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 9:49pm:
he is getting very nervous..what does he have to hide?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-pennsylvania-recount-232103

[quote]
Attorneys for President-elect Donald Trump have moved to block the vote recount in Pennsylvania, adding to complaints filed to stop similar proceedings in Michigan and Wisconsin.

"Despite being no more than a blip on the electoral radar, Stein has now commandeered Pennsylvania's electoral process, with an eye toward doing the same to the Electoral College," the complaint filed Thursday states. "There is no evidence -- or even an allegation -- that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred.".............


the complaint filed Thursday states. "There is no evidence -- or even an allegation -- that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred."..


There is no evidence


The electronic vote was 7% different from the rest of the vote which makes it a mathematically improbable result statistically. While this can happen dependent on demographic it is clearly questionable.

or even an allegation


For months Trump had been telling anyone and everyone that it was rigged, Mr Trump has clearly alleged that the vote was rigged.[/quote]


BUT..... if he had lost he would be challenging the result and demanding a recount himself in every state he lost - as is his right. But the rules change because he won - allegedly.

What ever happened to people of principle whose first loyalty is to honesty and veracity - even ahead of politics?
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
jmjcare
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 1781
Gender: female
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #30 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:22pm
 
FUNDING DRIES UP AS ANGRY, DISCOURAGED DONORS ABANDONING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN DROVES
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/funding-dries-discouraged-donors-abandon-democrat...



First Day Of Wisconsin Recount Results Are In And It's Horrible

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
jmjcare
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 1781
Gender: female
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #31 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 6:53pm
 
...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
John Smith
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 78311
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #32 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:01pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.


if that were true thrump lawyers would be demanding a recount, not trying to stop it Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

are all Americans this thick?
Back to top
 

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
IP Logged
 
Dnarever
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 61322
Here
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #33 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:58pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 1:12am:
The Sore Losers just won't give it up, maybe not enough dead and illegals got their vote counted after the 8th.
\

Think you might find that there was a record turn out of dead voters and they all voted trump.

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Mortdooley
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 7311
Texas Gulf Coast
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #34 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:43pm
 
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/02/many-illegal-aliens-can-vote-...



A former immigration officer says many illegal aliens can vote in national elections, in part because they can easily buy fake identification documents.


“I probably arrested more than a thousand illegal aliens in my career,” retired ICE Special-Agent-In-Charge Claude Arnold said during an interview with Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly. “I routinely encounter people in possession of voter registration cards… I would ask them, ‘Do you or have you voted?’ And often, I would get the answer, yes,” he said, adding that about 100 illegals told him that they had voted.

Illegals can vote because they can get realistic fake documents, he said.

“The demand is so great for counterfeit documents because the illegal alien population wants to work—that’s the majority of their motivation for wanting to come to this country,” he said. “So there’s a huge demand for those documents that are required to pass the employment eligibility verification procedures,” he added.

“In every neighborhood where there’s a significant illegal alien population, there are at least several document vendors who supply this service.” Illegals typically buy fraudulent documents in threes, he continued: A counterfeit resident alien card or work authorization card, plus a counterfeit California driver’s license, and a counterfeit Social Security card, which costs about $120 to $300.

Arnold’s interview comes after President-elect Donald Trump declared he would would have won the popular vote if millions who voted illegally were discounted.

Democratic Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime ally of Hillary Clinton, ignored his state’s supreme court ruling and illegally gave 60,000 felons voter registration cards. Also, at least eight million adult illegal aliens are residing in the United States in defiance of the law.

The media did not investigate these claims, automatically declaring them “false” with much outrage and finger-wagging. Still, voting experts have told reporters at the Daily Mail that it’s likely illegal aliens, non-citizens, and other ineligible people, did vote in significant numbers on Election Day:

    [E]xperts warn today that the rapid media condemnation of the president-elect is itself flawed—and that he was at the very least partially right in his claims.

    They said it is certain that—among other things—non-citizens were registered to vote and [did] cast ballots.

    It is also certain that there were other instances of illegal voting, including people who vote under false identities, and people who cast ballots in multiple states, which most attacks on Trump’s tweet chose to ignore, they warned…

    The most recent serious attempt to measure the number of non-citizen voters found that illegal voting is a widespread problem, although not as prevalent as Trump’s comments suggested.

    The 2013 study was conducted by Jesse Richman, a professor at Old Dominion University.

    The report was based on surveys by the Cooperative Congressional Election Studies in 2008 and 2010, which asked respondents for citizen status and whether they had voted.

    Based on the data, Richman estimated that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in the 2008 presidential election, which would translate to around 1.2 million votes. According to Richman, about 80 percent of these non-citizens voted for Barack Obama against John McCain.

    But the professor says his findings still wouldn’t account for Hillary Clinton’s entire 2.2 million lead against Trump in the popular vote.

These problems may have been compounded by the outgoing president himself. Days before the election, Obama gave an evasive response in a YouTube interview suggesting to his critics that any voter fraud committed by illegal aliens would not be prosecuted under his administration.

True The Vote, an organization dedicated to stopping voter fraud, strongly backed Trump’s claims about illegal voting.

“True the Vote absolutely supports President-elect Trump’s recent comment about the impact of illegal voting, as reflected in the national popular vote,” the group said in a statement. “We are still collecting data and will be for several months, but our intent is to publish a comprehensive study on the significant impact of illegal voting in all of its many forms and begin a national discussion on how voters, states, and the Trump Administration can best address this growing problem.”

I don't think these are Trump supporters.
Back to top
 

The only difference between a Communist and a Democrat is the spelling.
 
IP Logged
 
Dnarever
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 61322
Here
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #35 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:51pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2016 at 9:43pm:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/02/many-illegal-aliens-can-vote-...



A former immigration officer says many illegal aliens can vote in national elections, in part because they can easily buy fake identification documents.


“I probably arrested more than a thousand illegal aliens in my career,” retired ICE Special-Agent-In-Charge Claude Arnold said during an interview with Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly. “I routinely encounter people in possession of voter registration cards… I would ask them, ‘Do you or have you voted?’ And often, I would get the answer, yes,” he said, adding that about 100 illegals told him that they had voted.

Illegals can vote because they can get realistic fake documents, he said.

“The demand is so great for counterfeit documents because the illegal alien population wants to work—that’s the majority of their motivation for wanting to come to this country,” he said. “So there’s a huge demand for those documents that are required to pass the employment eligibility verification procedures,” he added.

“In every neighborhood where there’s a significant illegal alien population, there are at least several document vendors who supply this service.” Illegals typically buy fraudulent documents in threes, he continued: A counterfeit resident alien card or work authorization card, plus a counterfeit California driver’s license, and a counterfeit Social Security card, which costs about $120 to $300.

Arnold’s interview comes after President-elect Donald Trump declared he would would have won the popular vote if millions who voted illegally were discounted.

Democratic Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime ally of Hillary Clinton, ignored his state’s supreme court ruling and illegally gave 60,000 felons voter registration cards. Also, at least eight million adult illegal aliens are residing in the United States in defiance of the law.

The media did not investigate these claims, automatically declaring them “false” with much outrage and finger-wagging. Still, voting experts have told reporters at the Daily Mail that it’s likely illegal aliens, non-citizens, and other ineligible people, did vote in significant numbers on Election Day:

    [E]xperts warn today that the rapid media condemnation of the president-elect is itself flawed—and that he was at the very least partially right in his claims.

    They said it is certain that—among other things—non-citizens were registered to vote and [did] cast ballots.

    It is also certain that there were other instances of illegal voting, including people who vote under false identities, and people who cast ballots in multiple states, which most attacks on Trump’s tweet chose to ignore, they warned…

    The most recent serious attempt to measure the number of non-citizen voters found that illegal voting is a widespread problem, although not as prevalent as Trump’s comments suggested.

    The 2013 study was conducted by Jesse Richman, a professor at Old Dominion University.

    The report was based on surveys by the Cooperative Congressional Election Studies in 2008 and 2010, which asked respondents for citizen status and whether they had voted.

    Based on the data, Richman estimated that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in the 2008 presidential election, which would translate to around 1.2 million votes. According to Richman, about 80 percent of these non-citizens voted for Barack Obama against John McCain.

    But the professor says his findings still wouldn’t account for Hillary Clinton’s entire 2.2 million lead against Trump in the popular vote.

These problems may have been compounded by the outgoing president himself. Days before the election, Obama gave an evasive response in a YouTube interview suggesting to his critics that any voter fraud committed by illegal aliens would not be prosecuted under his administration.

True The Vote, an organization dedicated to stopping voter fraud, strongly backed Trump’s claims about illegal voting.

“True the Vote absolutely supports President-elect Trump’s recent comment about the impact of illegal voting, as reflected in the national popular vote,” the group said in a statement. “We are still collecting data and will be for several months, but our intent is to publish a comprehensive study on the significant impact of illegal voting in all of its many forms and begin a national discussion on how voters, states, and the Trump Administration can best address this growing problem.”

I don't think these are Trump supporters.


Yes and the dead can vote because they dig shallow graves ?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Unforgiven
Gold Member
*****
Offline


I have sinned

Posts: 8879
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #36 - Dec 4th, 2016 at 1:08am
 
Court rejected immediate stop of recount which continues and will be finished before the matter is decided in court.

Just as a matter of interest, errors are being found in the count like groups of votes and wards not being added to tally.

Count will be complete before there is a judgment in the suit against the recount.

http://elections.wi.gov/publications/statistics/recount/2016/12-1-spreadsheet
Back to top
 

“I’ll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours” Bob Dylan
 
IP Logged
 
Dnarever
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 61322
Here
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #37 - Dec 4th, 2016 at 7:43am
 
Why do the US conservatives never want the votes to be counted ?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Agnes
Gold Member
*****
Offline


fish dinner

Posts: 6081
Bedford Park rnd
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #38 - Dec 4th, 2016 at 11:14am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 1:08am:
Court rejected immediate stop of recount which continues and will be finished before the matter is decided in court.

Just as a matter of interest, errors are being found in the count like groups of votes and wards not being added to tally.

Count will be complete before there is a judgment in the suit against the recount.

http://elections.wi.gov/publications/statistics/recount/2016/12-1-spreadsheet

Hopefully Unforgiven..I dont see how this smacking senile bozo will get through a month let alonne 4 years..
Back to top
 

x=^..^= x <o((((>< ~~~ x=^..^=x~~~x=^..^=x<o((((><~~~x=^..^=x


farewell to days of wild abandon and freedom in the adriatic
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #39 - Dec 4th, 2016 at 1:05pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 7:43am:
Why do the US conservatives never want the votes to be counted ?


Always wondered about that. Trumps claim about 'election rigging' is rather hypocritical since the major efforts to not count votes or keep minorities and students from the polls is almost entirely republican.
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
Sprintcyclist
Gold Member
*****
Offline


OzPolitic

Posts: 41330
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #40 - Dec 4th, 2016 at 2:34pm
 

Quote:
...................
That means that Trump inched ahead by a grand total of 3 votes in a recount expected to cost more than $3.5 million
...........


http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/wisconsin-recount-totals-update-day-2-3-1-returns-...
Back to top
 

Modern Classic Right Wing
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Trump wants to halt recount..
Reply #41 - Dec 4th, 2016 at 6:29pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
Quote:
...................
That means that Trump inched ahead by a grand total of 3 votes in a recount expected to cost more than $3.5 million
...........


http://heavy.com/news/2016/12/wisconsin-recount-totals-update-day-2-3-1-returns-...


So what's your problem? Isnt the demand on all of us to get an actual ACCURATE vote count and let the results fall where-ever they may?  I am not sure why you think there should be a problem with recounting votes to get a proper result.
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print