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Reply #60 - Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 2:37pm

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 1:42pm:

The point is not that jobs will never be lost in the US. The point is that you cannot sacrifice US jobs, move offshore and then sell back tariff free.

Trump is not that different to Sanders on this:

There are many corporations who have turned their backs on the American worker, who have said, if I can make another nickel in profit by going to China and shutting down in the United States of America, that's what I will do. I will do my best to transform our trade policy and take on these corporations who want to invest in low-income countries around the world rather than in the United States of America.

Priority of trade deals should be helping American workers
Bernie Sanders believes that the top priority of any trade deal should be to help American workers. Unfortunately, as Bernie has warned year after year, American trade policy over the last 30 years has done just the opposite. Multinational corporations- who have helped to write most of these trade deals--have benefited greatly while millions of American jobs have been shipped overseas. American trade policy should place the needs of American workers and small businesses first.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Free_Trade.htm

If Bernie says it -good. If Trump says it - bad.

That's how stupid you are.

Well, well, well look at you with your Brietbart information. Both Sanders and Trump were running on trade wars so what's your god damn point, Trumptard? Strange how Grumpy Trumpy Trump is following the advice of Sanders right to the heart of CEO of United Technologies that "if his firm wants to receive another defense contract from the taxpayers of this country, it must not move these plants to Mexico.” Trump, as usual, is clueless.

Grumpy Trumpy - just like Obama - will bugger over the working class paying higher taxes and these employees will pay a price for these jobs to stay. Plus they know their wage cuts are coming also thanks to Trump.

Next time Trumptard hippie, try to have an argument not some Brietbart rehash.

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Re: Trump already delivering for US
Reply #61 - Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 5:02pm

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Marla wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 6:47pm:

Oh Yes

'.......... Companies are NOT going to leave the United States without consequence............'

Boy howdy! Trump did nothing more than make another lame publicity stunt made possible by a bribe paid to Carrier. Carrier is fully committed to offshoring its production and will do so. ALL of the jobs "saved" will be gone within 2 years.

You gullible Trumptard hippies. Keep on posting your crap.

Well, they can start selling into Cuba, then.

The point is not that jobs will never be lost in the US. The point is that you cannot sacrifice US jobs, move offshore and then sell back tariff free.

Trump is not that different to Sanders on this:

There are many corporations who have turned their backs on the American worker, who have said, if I can make another nickel in profit by going to China and shutting down in the United States of America, that's what I will do. I will do my best to transform our trade policy and take on these corporations who want to invest in low-income countries around the world rather than in the United States of America.

Priority of trade deals should be helping American workers
Bernie Sanders believes that the top priority of any trade deal should be to help American workers. Unfortunately, as Bernie has warned year after year, American trade policy over the last 30 years has done just the opposite. Multinational corporations- who have helped to write most of these trade deals--have benefited greatly while millions of American jobs have been shipped overseas. American trade policy should place the needs of American workers and small businesses first.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Free_Trade.htm

If Bernie says it -good. If Trump says it - bad.

That's how stupid you are.

I look forward to Trump trying to put import tariffs on Apple products. Apple will simply donate enough of its $150B IN CASH to demolish republicans next time around and/or move to canada and cost Trump about $50B a year in taxes.

And can you imagine the size of the backlash if Apple products were made 45% more expensive in USA?

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Reply #63 - Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:33pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 5:02pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Marla wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2016 at 6:47pm:

Oh Yes

'.......... Companies are NOT going to leave the United States without consequence............'

Boy howdy! Trump did nothing more than make another lame publicity stunt made possible by a bribe paid to Carrier. Carrier is fully committed to offshoring its production and will do so. ALL of the jobs "saved" will be gone within 2 years.

You gullible Trumptard hippies. Keep on posting your crap.

Well, they can start selling into Cuba, then.

The point is not that jobs will never be lost in the US. The point is that you cannot sacrifice US jobs, move offshore and then sell back tariff free.

Trump is not that different to Sanders on this:

There are many corporations who have turned their backs on the American worker, who have said, if I can make another nickel in profit by going to China and shutting down in the United States of America, that's what I will do. I will do my best to transform our trade policy and take on these corporations who want to invest in low-income countries around the world rather than in the United States of America.

Priority of trade deals should be helping American workers
Bernie Sanders believes that the top priority of any trade deal should be to help American workers. Unfortunately, as Bernie has warned year after year, American trade policy over the last 30 years has done just the opposite. Multinational corporations- who have helped to write most of these trade deals--have benefited greatly while millions of American jobs have been shipped overseas. American trade policy should place the needs of American workers and small businesses first.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Free_Trade.htm

If Bernie says it -good. If Trump says it - bad.

That's how stupid you are.

I look forward to Trump trying to put import tariffs on Apple products. Apple will simply donate enough of its $150B IN CASH to demolish republicans next time around and/or move to canada and cost Trump about $50B a year in taxes.

And can you imagine the size of the backlash if Apple products were made 45% more expensive in USA?

IMAGINE!!!!!!!

Apple will just have to decide how important the US market is to it, won't they?

You guys, until now the greatest friends of the working man, all of a sudden sound like 19th century robber capitalists who insist that thinking of the good of the working man is the end of the world!!!!!

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14685 Colorado Gender:	Re: Trump already delivering for US Reply #64 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 1:13am AiA wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:15pm: Trump's delivery: taxpayers subsidizing multinational corporations making huge profits in order to beg them to keep jobs in America. Yep, pretty much how America was "great again."
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Reply #65 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 1:18am

Lookie who Grumpy Trumpy put on his "economic policy" which is nothing more than capitalist Wall Street crooks who know what makes America "great" is a corporate America:

Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase; Laurence Fink of BlackRock, another huge hedge fund fraud; Mary Barra of General Motors (who somehow avoided criminal prosecution knowing that many of their poo cars were defective); Doug McMillion, President and CEO of Wal-Mart Stores (oh, and good friend of Hillary Clinton); Adebayo Ogunlesi, lead independent director of Goldman Sachs (who buggered over the working class of America); Bob Iger of Walt Disney Co.; Ginni Rometty, CEO of IBM; former Boeing CEO Jim McNerney; and former General Electric CEO Jack Welch.

All corrupt to their capitalist core.

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Reply #66 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 5:24am

Marla wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Grumpy Trumpy - just like Obama - will bugger over the working class paying higher taxes and these employees will pay a price for these jobs to stay. Plus they know their wage cuts are coming also thanks to Trump.

Next time Trumptard hippie, try to have an argument not some Brietbart rehash.

Almost everything you say is nothing but speculation and Crystal Ball prognostications and Nostradamus projections for the future.

Any damned fool can sit back and paint scenarios that haven't yet arrived and which may never materialise.

Inventing fictitious future scenarios is literally child's-play and nothing but finger-painting according to your mood or political biasses.

Please tidy up your act, Marla-the-Moonwalker, and get back to us when you've got something with a little more factual bones to it than mere wishful thinking.

Meanwhile, Enjoy the Rest of your Day, bitch!

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving Day.

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Re: Trump already delivering for US
Reply #67 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 5:31am

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:33pm:

IMAGINE!!!!!!!

Apple will just have to decide how important the US market is to it, won't they?

You guys, until now the greatest friends of the working man, all of a sudden sound like 19th century robber capitalists who insist that thinking of the good of the working man is the end of the world!!!!!

Post of the Day.

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Re: Trump already delivering for US
Reply #68 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 6:13am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 5:24am:

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Almost everything you say is nothing but speculation and Crystal Ball prognostications and Nostradamus projections for the future.

Any damned fool can sit back and paint scenarios that haven't yet arrived and which may never materialise.

Inventing fictitious future scenarios is literally child's-play and nothing but finger-painting according to your mood or political biasses.

Please tidy up your act, Marla-the-Moonwalker, and get back to us when you've got something with a little more factual bones to it than mere wishful thinking.

Meanwhile, Enjoy the Rest of your Day, bitch!

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving Day.

White male entitlement, everybody.

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Reply #69 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 6:46am

Marla wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 6:13am:

White male entitlement, everybody.

You still haven't told us who you voted for. Have the courage of your convictions and spill the beanz.

It was Trump, wasn't it - as the lesser of two evils?

Trump just might surprise all of us once he's sitting at that desk in the Oval Office. The pundits are saying he'll be pulling his head in and will not be anything like the flamboyant showman he's been on the hustings once he realises the appalling responsibilities he has taken upon himself as Prez of the US.

His election has already been a phenomenal 'Stranger than Fiction' event that will no doubt see him in next year's edition of 'Believe it or Not!' - and so it's not impossible that he may settle down to being just yet another run-of-the-mill politician in the White House.

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Re: Trump already delivering for US
Reply #70 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 7:01am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 6:46am:

Marla wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 6:13am:

White male entitlement, everybody.

You still haven't told us who you voted for. Have the courage of your convictions and spill the beanz.

Never going to happen.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 6:46am:

Trump just might surprise all of us once he's sitting at that desk in the Oval Office. The pundits are saying he'll be pulling his head in and will not be anything like the flamboyant showman he's been on the hustings once he realizes the appalling responsibilities he has taken upon himself as Prez of the US.

Trump is a severely mentally ill headcase. He is an self-aggrandizing asshole upon which he really demonstrated himself Cincinnati, Ohio, where he once again engaged his tongue with endless social demagogy, claiming to defend the “American worker and flat wages are not going to be the new normal.”

Yet, his "economic panel" consists of nothing but corrupt capitalist Wall Street CEOs whose own personal wealth is bound up directly with slashing jobs and wages of the working class.

Trump played to media once more with his usual bullshit calming he "saved" of the jobs of 1,100 workers at the Carrier plant in Indianapolis. He even claims it as a "victory" when the brutal truth of his core economic program is to advance a $6 trillion tax cut for the wealthy and his capitalist big business butt buddies.

Trump is only doing this for one thing and one thing only: to gain more of his personal wealth and supposed business acumen. He has nothing else to offer anyone. He never did. He never will. Only white male entitlement would buy into such nonsense most of which are working people who have still not recovered from the impact of the 2008 Wall Street disaster.

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Reply #72 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 10:49am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 4^th, 2016 at 5:31am:

Frank wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 7:33pm:

IMAGINE!!!!!!!

Apple will just have to decide how important the US market is to it, won't they?

You guys, until now the greatest friends of the working man, all of a sudden sound like 19th century robber capitalists who insist that thinking of the good of the working man is the end of the world!!!!!

Post of the Day.

Yes in the category of dumb.

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Re: Trump already delivering for US
Reply #74 - Dec 4^th, 2016 at 5:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2016 at 5:02pm:

I look forward to Trump trying to put import tariffs on Apple products. Apple will simply donate enough of its $150B IN CASH to demolish republicans next time around and/or move to canada and cost Trump about $50B a year in taxes.

And can you imagine the size of the backlash if Apple products were made 45% more expensive in USA?

True.

And it has to be remembered, of course, that the Chinese and Mexico didn't steal US jobs... They were given to them by Americans.

The only way Trump could have them returned is by morphing into a latter-day New Dealer...

If that happens, it will be the greatest irony (or U-turn) in US political history...

He (like Roosevelt before him) will need to 'punish the economic royalists'.

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