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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6384 Australia Gender:	Re: Trump already delivering for US Reply #15 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 12:52pm Well done Mr Trump, won't be long before you're President Trump.
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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101313	Re: Trump already delivering for US Reply #16 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 1:01pm Fuzzball wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 12:52pm: Well done Mr Trump, won't be long before you're President Trump. Exactly. The illegitimate president Trump. The game's rigged, Matty. Trump told us this himself.
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Reply #17 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 1:20pm

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 1:01pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Well done Mr Trump, won't be long before you're President Trump. Wink

Exactly. The illegitimate president Trump.

The game's rigged, Matty. Trump told us this himself.

You're a f@#$ing monkey spanker.......silly be_atch.....

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Reply #18 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 1:44pm

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 1:20pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 1:01pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Well done Mr Trump, won't be long before you're President Trump. Wink

Exactly. The illegitimate president Trump.

The game's rigged, Matty. Trump told us this himself.

You're a f@#$ing monkey spanker.......silly be_atch.....

We all are, Matty, we all are.

We're all friends here, no?

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Reply #19 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:14pm

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 12:48pm:

we had the same thing here with Holden...we begged and prayed they would stay here forever....yep even handed over trillions..it can only last for so long...

but I am sure if I was working for these companies I would be glad of anything that put off the evil day.. Sad

we didnt hand over TRILLIONS, you clown. At least try and stay sober.

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Reply #20 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:19pm

ZeroHedge:

Consider the media headlines and stories published before and after the presidential election.

Before the election:
◦“The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitous-ly. Simon Johnson, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist, posited that Mr. Trump’s presidency would “likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession.” He predicted that Mr. Trump’s “anti-trade policies would cause a sharp slowdown, much like the British are experiencing” after their vote to exit the European Union.” - The New York Times – “What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins?” by Andrew Ross Sorkin
◦“The stock market doesn’t like the idea of a Trump Presidency”- PBS Newshour
◦“Economists: A Trump win would tank the market” – Politico
◦“Stock Markets will freak out if Trump wins, but you probably shouldn’t”- Boston Globe

After:

◦Wall Street welcomes Trump with a bang” –CNN Money
◦Stock Market Slingshots Higher After Trump Victory Sparked Overnight Plunge” Forbes
◦Dow Surges to Fresh All-Time High on Trump-Fueled Momentum” –Fox Business
Following Donald Trump’s surprise victory and the violent market reactions, many investors are left scratching their heads. As shown above, the consensus narrative warned that a Trump victory would spell doom for the markets. Days later, the narrative flipped and Trump’s economic policies, all of which were known prior to the election, are deemed beneficial for share prices.

In this article we evaluate the narratives we see day-to-day and how they not only tell a story, true or false, but provide comfort and, importantly, a sense of control. We then explore the current mar-ket narrative calling Trump’s victory bullish for share prices. We hope to provide cognizance of the influence of narratives and to offer a basis to help investors judge whether the markets’ reaction is justified.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-29/narrative-every-season-stocks-and-after...

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump already delivering for US Reply #21 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:34pm Has Thrump told carrier he will subsidise them? surely the free market brigade is opposed to such a move?
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Reply #22 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:55pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:19pm:

ZeroHedge:

Consider the media headlines and stories published before and after the presidential election.

Before the election:
◦“The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitous-ly. Simon Johnson, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist, posited that Mr. Trump’s presidency would “likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession.” He predicted that Mr. Trump’s “anti-trade policies would cause a sharp slowdown, much like the British are experiencing” after their vote to exit the European Union.” - The New York Times – “What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins?” by Andrew Ross Sorkin
◦“The stock market doesn’t like the idea of a Trump Presidency”- PBS Newshour
◦“Economists: A Trump win would tank the market” – Politico
◦“Stock Markets will freak out if Trump wins, but you probably shouldn’t”- Boston Globe

After:

◦Wall Street welcomes Trump with a bang” –CNN Money
◦Stock Market Slingshots Higher After Trump Victory Sparked Overnight Plunge” Forbes
◦Dow Surges to Fresh All-Time High on Trump-Fueled Momentum” –Fox Business
Following Donald Trump’s surprise victory and the violent market reactions, many investors are left scratching their heads. As shown above, the consensus narrative warned that a Trump victory would spell doom for the markets. Days later, the narrative flipped and Trump’s economic policies, all of which were known prior to the election, are deemed beneficial for share prices.

In this article we evaluate the narratives we see day-to-day and how they not only tell a story, true or false, but provide comfort and, importantly, a sense of control. We then explore the current mar-ket narrative calling Trump’s victory bullish for share prices. We hope to provide cognizance of the influence of narratives and to offer a basis to help investors judge whether the markets’ reaction is justified.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-29/narrative-every-season-stocks-and-after...

yes.
Similar dire warnings were given before the brexit vote happened too.

England is still afloat, meteors have not struck AND commerce still occurs in england.

Farage predicted similar dire warnings before the US vote when touring with Trump.

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Reply #23 - Dec 1^st, 2016 at 12:03am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:55pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:19pm:

ZeroHedge:

Consider the media headlines and stories published before and after the presidential election.

Before the election:
◦“The conventional wisdom is that, right off the bat, the stock market would fall precipitous-ly. Simon Johnson, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist, posited that Mr. Trump’s presidency would “likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession.” He predicted that Mr. Trump’s “anti-trade policies would cause a sharp slowdown, much like the British are experiencing” after their vote to exit the European Union.” - The New York Times – “What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins?” by Andrew Ross Sorkin
◦“The stock market doesn’t like the idea of a Trump Presidency”- PBS Newshour
◦“Economists: A Trump win would tank the market” – Politico
◦“Stock Markets will freak out if Trump wins, but you probably shouldn’t”- Boston Globe

After:

◦Wall Street welcomes Trump with a bang” –CNN Money
◦Stock Market Slingshots Higher After Trump Victory Sparked Overnight Plunge” Forbes
◦Dow Surges to Fresh All-Time High on Trump-Fueled Momentum” –Fox Business
Following Donald Trump’s surprise victory and the violent market reactions, many investors are left scratching their heads. As shown above, the consensus narrative warned that a Trump victory would spell doom for the markets. Days later, the narrative flipped and Trump’s economic policies, all of which were known prior to the election, are deemed beneficial for share prices.

In this article we evaluate the narratives we see day-to-day and how they not only tell a story, true or false, but provide comfort and, importantly, a sense of control. We then explore the current mar-ket narrative calling Trump’s victory bullish for share prices. We hope to provide cognizance of the influence of narratives and to offer a basis to help investors judge whether the markets’ reaction is justified.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-29/narrative-every-season-stocks-and-after...

yes.
Similar dire warnings were given before the brexit vote happened too.

England is still afloat, meteors have not struck AND commerce still occurs in england.

Farage predicted similar dire warnings before the US vote when touring with Trump.

Yes and yes again.

The powers that be want to frighten people with stories of disasters delivered by "experts" to steer public opinion along the lines that they want.

Iceland was warned that if it did not heed international conventions and repay a 50 billion debt that the country would be finished. A debt that was created by international bankers gambling in Iceland's economy.
The people of Iceland rose up and took control. Wrote off the debt and put those collaborators in jail. Iceland has had a growth rate since that would be the envy of most first world countries. People power works!
Slowly American are beginning to see what has happened to their country and their not happy. Trumps election was a rebellion against the corrupt establishment.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Trump already delivering for US Reply #24 - Dec 1^st, 2016 at 12:07am Obama is handing over a healthy economy to Trump.
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Reply #25 - Dec 1^st, 2016 at 1:16am

AiA wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 12:07am:

Obama is handing over a healthy economy to Trump.

Healthy economy - you must be joking? Most people around here are earning $8.70/hour and that's if their enough lucky to have a job. The unemployment figures are a lie. Property prices have not risen since 2008. Federal debt is almost 20 trillion!

What has Obama done? Except for obsessing over transgender issues - very little. The guy is a fake a fraud! Practices giving speeches in front of a mirror using a teleprompter. Hes a cutout president. A very bad joke. A creation of the CIA and George Soros.

Trump is illustrating the difference between him and Obama. Trumps working on the economy looking for solutions and Obama? Playing golf and campaigning for Hillary or was. Just a puppet for the globalists - he had no idea.

AIA - I'm getting sick of your unsubstantiated nonsense you write hear.

GET A JOB!

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Reply #26 - Dec 1^st, 2016 at 2:28am

Hmm ^^^ I was here in the USA in 2007 when the housing bubble burst and in 2008 when the bottom fell out. Were you? I am still here. And employed. There is no need to provide economic data because the health of the economy is obvious to everyone except you. But I will make an exception for you:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-the-verdict-on-that-terrible-obama-econom...

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Reply #27 - Dec 1^st, 2016 at 3:48am

the details of Trump's genius PR move with Carrier deal are slowly coming to light:

Mike Pence has been negotiating with Carrier and has offered them a bunch of new incentives to stay where they are. He was able to do this because he will be governor of Indiana, where the plant is, a few more weeks.

Carrier has agreed to keep 1,000 jobs in the US. The other 1,100 jobs, apparently, will still be lost to Mexico.

We don't know yet what incentives Pence has promised, but it's worth noting that this sort of thing is really nothing new. It is done all the time. Again, Trump was only able to pull this off because his VP is also governor of Indiana.

Compared to Carrier's 1,000 jobs, Obama's auto bailout saved something like 250,000 jobs at GM and Chrysler, and 1-2 million total jobs throughout the entire automotive supply chain.

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Reply #28 - Dec 1^st, 2016 at 5:04am

AiA wrote on Dec 1^st, 2016 at 3:48am:

the details of Trump's genius PR move with Carrier deal are slowly coming to light:

Mike Pence has been negotiating with Carrier and has offered them a bunch of new incentives to stay where they are. He was able to do this because he will be governor of Indiana, where the plant is, a few more weeks.

Carrier has agreed to keep 1,000 jobs in the US. The other 1,100 jobs, apparently, will still be lost to Mexico.

We don't know yet what incentives Pence has promised, but it's worth noting that this sort of thing is really nothing new. It is done all the time. Again, Trump was only able to pull this off because his VP is also governor of Indiana.

Compared to Carrier's 1,000 jobs, Obama's auto bailout saved something like 250,000 jobs at GM and Chrysler, and 1-2 million total jobs throughout the entire automotive supply chain.

That is called opinion, nobody bailed out Ford and it came back at least as well as GM without a government takeover. Obama did get his revenge against the jokesters by destroying Pontiac. Poor Old N..... Thinks Its A Cadillac.

Just keep sipping the Kool Aid.

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Reply #29 - Dec 1^st, 2016 at 5:31am

Poor Mortie has wasted almost a decade of his life attacking Obama with nothing to show for it. The birther nonsense, the POTUS being a Muslim, the "Death Panels", "taking away all our guns" ... admit it, Mortie, you fell for all of it.

I give credit to Trump for being a master persuader, yet you can't even give Obama, who could have easily won a third term, credit where credit is due.

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