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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #15 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:24pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

Trump originally said he hated the Electoral College system because he beleived he would lose there and win the popular vote. Now because the outcome was reversed, he thinks the college system is 'genius'. What a hypocrite.

And now he has changed his mind yet again. I wonder if he has any actual beliefs?

Trump rallied in states that counted to maximize his E/College votes. Clinton on the other hand didn't, and consequently failed to win over blue collar workers

As well, if Clinton had said things like "Drain the Swamp", "Build a Wall", "Make America Great Again", "Jobs for Michigan" ... she might have won more E/College delegates

You mean 'drain the swamp' and then choose an adminstration born, raised and living in that swamp? 'Build a wall' and then say, no we wont do it? "Make America Great Again" when america is at the zenith of its power and prosperity? And "jobs for Michigan" when he has no power or policy that would actually do that?

Yeah... she should have lied her butt off. Apparently, that is the New Politics.

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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #17 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:26pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 8:34am:

Just the wrong sort of feminine energy.

I talk about the superior man having certain behaviours.

Hand in hand with this goes the concept of the Quality woman.

Queen Elizabeth 2 is a quality woman.
Refined, emotionally controlled, gives off a very calm type of vibration energy, in no way "bratty", in no way "bitchy", in no way a "drama", in no way a "princess" (interesting that a queen does not exhibit princess like behvaiours but elizabeth is very humble and down to earth).

This shows , for example, when even lefties feel a certain sense of awe when they meet Eliazabeth and will often comment on this "present warm energy".

Hilary was very different...not humble, aggressive, in the pants suits carrying on like a brat, like a drama queen, like an entitled snot. people will not vibe with a low quality woman...they find these behaviours repulsive. it showed at the ballot box.

BTW, just watch the outpouring of grief that the world will show when Elizabeth2 dies and you will see i am totally correct re the reverence we all feel for a quality woman

But she has no actual power and little influence. I admire her greatly, but she still has very little impact unlike politicians who by virtue of their job are SUPPOSED to have impact, influence and challenge the orthodoxy.

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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #18 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:27pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 8:34am:

She won the popular vote, by TWO MILLION votes.

Those who went to the polls, wanted Hillary as President.

America was duped.

Except it was not a popular vote as you wish it to be, it was a vote for Electoral College delegates in each State. The delegates make their final decision on the 19th Dec as to who the President will be

Why haven't you got the guts to explain what you mean by "popular"?

Are you serious??? You think getting substantially LESS votes is a claim to being 'popular'? It might be hard to define the word but I can guarantee it does NOT mean finishing second in a two horse race.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Why did hillary lose so badly Reply #19 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:28pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:17pm: Her arrogance was out of the ballpark. At over a week out from the election she said she is now focussed on her new presidency and is unconcerned about Donald Trump. HER arrogance??????? wow... it must take some fine alcohol to induce that kind of memory loss.
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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #21 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 3:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

Her arrogance was out of the ballpark.

At over a week out from the election she said she is now focussed on her new presidency and is unconcerned about Donald Trump.

HER arrogance???????

wow... it must take some fine alcohol to induce that kind of memory loss.

I pretty much don't drink.

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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #22 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 4:20pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 3:45pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

Her arrogance was out of the ballpark.

At over a week out from the election she said she is now focussed on her new presidency and is unconcerned about Donald Trump.

HER arrogance???????

wow... it must take some fine alcohol to induce that kind of memory loss.

I pretty much don't drink.

Maybe you should.

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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #23 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 7:11pm

She was rated as one of the worst speakers.
You gotta admit, she is 'dull'.

Her 'speaking income' :

Bank of America - $ 1/4 M
Goldman Sachs - $ 3/4 M
Morgan Stanley - $ 1/4 M
Sandford Bernstein - $ 1/4 M
Ameriprise - $ 1/4 M
Deuscthe Bank - $ 1/4 M
GTCR - $ 1/3 M
CIBC - $150 K
BBC USA Securities - $ 1/4 M
Deuscthe Bank AG - $ 1/4 M (different 'bank')
CME Group - $ 1/4 M
UBS Wealth Mgmt - $ 1/4 M
Fidelity Investments - $ 1/4 M
Apollo Mgmt - $ 1/4 M
Kolhberg - $ 1/4 M
Golden Tree - $ 1/4 M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rtqJ3W3g1c&feature=youtu.be&t=15

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41328 Gender:	Re: Why did hillary lose so badly Reply #24 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 8:03pm She exhibited 'unusual' mannerisms. Was it because of this .......... Hillary Clinton Is On Crack Cocaine 1.40secs till 2.30, then 6.55 to the end
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150818 Gender:	Re: Why did hillary lose so badly Reply #25 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 8:07pm
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41328 Gender:	Re: Why did hillary lose so badly Reply #26 - Nov 26^th, 2016 at 2:48pm She has no idea of social media. 14,000,000 people saw this.
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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #27 - Nov 26^th, 2016 at 3:59pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

She was rated as one of the worst speakers.
You gotta admit, she is 'dull'.

That's true. Trump is by far the better speaker - far more engaging, compelling and even authentic than Hilary.

Trump, of course, is the least authentic candidate we've seen to date. A billionaire "man of the people". An anti-Establishment member of the Establishment. An anti-corruption campaigner who's settled on cases of his own fraud. A pro-business candidate who's filed for corporate bancruptcy three times. A self-professed born-again Christian with two divorces and a string of sexual assault allegations.

The list could go on. Trump is a fake, but he does come across as sincere. Behind closed doors Trump talks about "telling them what they want to hear" and "telling them anything to close a deal". This is, of course, the chief skill of a politician: lying convincingly.

Now watch as Trump goes back on almost everything he promised during the erection.

We know one thing, Sprint. If you're honest, you'll be complaining about Trump along with everybody else.

And if you're not, you'll be making the most ludicrous excuses and avoiding all questions.

Which is it going to be?

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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #28 - Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:23pm

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

She was rated as one of the worst speakers.
You gotta admit, she is 'dull'.

That's true. Trump is by far the better speaker - far more engaging, compelling and even authentic than Hilary.

Trump, of course, is the least authentic candidate we've seen to date. A billionaire "man of the people". An anti-Establishment member of the Establishment. An anti-corruption campaigner who's settled on cases of his own fraud. A pro-business candidate who's filed for corporate bancruptcy three times. A self-professed born-again Christian with two divorces and a string of sexual assault allegations.

The list could go on. Trump is a fake, but he does come across as sincere. Behind closed doors Trump talks about "telling them what they want to hear" and "telling them anything to close a deal". This is, of course, the chief skill of a politician: lying convincingly.

Now watch as Trump goes back on almost everything he promised during the erection.

We know one thing, Sprint. If you're honest, you'll be complaining about Trump along with everybody else.

And if you're not, you'll be making the most ludicrous excuses and avoiding all questions.

Which is it going to be?

Like all the other losers, you are agitating before the facts.

You were wrong about everything about this election for the last 18 months. You are cramming in some more idiocies before 20 Jan 2017.

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Re: Why did hillary lose so badly
Reply #29 - Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:48pm

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 7:11pm:

She was rated as one of the worst speakers.
You gotta admit, she is 'dull'.

That's true. Trump is by far the better speaker - far more engaging, compelling and even authentic than Hilary.

Trump, of course, is the least authentic candidate we've seen to date. A billionaire "man of the people". An anti-Establishment member of the Establishment. An anti-corruption campaigner who's settled on cases of his own fraud. A pro-business candidate who's filed for corporate bancruptcy three times. A self-professed born-again Christian with two divorces and a string of sexual assault allegations.

The list could go on. Trump is a fake, but he does come across as sincere. Behind closed doors Trump talks about "telling them what they want to hear" and "telling them anything to close a deal". This is, of course, the chief skill of a politician: lying convincingly.

Now watch as Trump goes back on almost everything he promised during the erection.

We know one thing, Sprint. If you're honest, you'll be complaining about Trump along with everybody else.

And if you're not, you'll be making the most ludicrous excuses and avoiding all questions.

Which is it going to be?

Like all the other losers, you are agitating before the facts.

You were wrong about everything about this election for the last 18 months. You are cramming in some more idiocies before 20 Jan 2017.

What am I wrong about, old boy? Sprint being disappointed because Trump won't build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it?

And not just a fence, but a big concrete wall - twenty feet high - a wall no one could ever - ever - get over?

Or Sprint being disappointed that Trump won't ban every Muselman from entering the United States, including everyone from a majority-Muslim country, and enforce Muslim ID cards for every Muslim US citizen?

If Trump becomes a plodder of a president - a card-carrying member of the political Establishment - Sprint will feel let down.

On the other hand, if Trump starts a trade war with China, blows the US economy, triples the deficit, and ends up in a real war, do you think Sprint will feel vindicated?

Your guess is as good as mine, dear chap.

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