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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	A little knowledge changes everything Nov 21^st, 2016 at 8:09pm I don't see Trump as a threat anymore because- fact's. he will be a crappy leader but he is nothing to fear, that is my opinion so far, it will change again I'm sure.
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Re: A little knowledge changes everything
Reply #1 - Nov 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 8:09pm:

I don't see Trump as a threat anymore because- fact's. he will be a crappy leader but he is nothing to fear, that is my opinion so far, it will change again I'm sure.

I seem to recall you claiming Obama was the best yet I havent seen the list of his accomplishments..do you have them????

he was there 8 years so I know he did something... Sad

.......well of course he did!

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Re: A little knowledge changes everything
Reply #2 - Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm

cods wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 8:09pm:

I don't see Trump as a threat anymore because- fact's. he will be a crappy leader but he is nothing to fear, that is my opinion so far, it will change again I'm sure.

I seem to recall you claiming Obama was the best yet I havent seen the list of his accomplishments..do you have them????

he was there 8 years so I know he did something... Sad

.......well of course he did!

I see the Obama Presidency in terms of he was a very decent human being, that will never change, his wife is pretty special too. As for what he has done, well I have heard some say he did plenty, but couldn't really tell you what he actually did atm. ( will have a google and get back to you ). He was a great leader and yes he made mistakes..I love Obama because he is a good and decent man and that is no small thing.

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Reply #3 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:01pm

You and all the rest like you worship Obama because he's black. You have this well of guilt about black people and any of them that rises to prominence deserves praise in your eyes whatever they do.

In fact Obama is a total failure. Worse than that, he has damaged his office, his country and much of world relations. He has sown the seeds of division in America for years to come.

If there was a mental age for voting I doubt, Agnes, if you would ever reach it.

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Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #4 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:06pm bogarde73 wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:01pm: In fact Obama is a total failure. Worse than that, he has damaged his office, his country and much of world relations. He has sown the seeds of division in America for years to come. Oh really? And the Bush years? How and where do they rank?
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #5 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:18pm I thought this was about Obama. Maybe you'd like to go back and talk about Hoover. Why don't you add your pathetic voice to the angelic chorus to sanctify Mr Yeswecan.
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Re: A little knowledge changes everything
Reply #6 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:18pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

cods wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 8:09pm:

I don't see Trump as a threat anymore because- fact's. he will be a crappy leader but he is nothing to fear, that is my opinion so far, it will change again I'm sure.

I seem to recall you claiming Obama was the best yet I havent seen the list of his accomplishments..do you have them????

he was there 8 years so I know he did something... Sad

.......well of course he did!

I see the Obama Presidency in terms of he was a very decent human being, that will never change, his wife is prettyl speciatoo. As for what he has done, well I have heard some say he did plenty, but couldn't really tell you what he actually did atm. ( will have a google and get back to you ). He was a great leader and yes he made mistakes..I love Obama because he is a good and decent man and that is no small thing.

we need to discern what "behaviours" and "characteristics" we are looking for in leadership.

being good and decent and nice and "a special snowflake'...these are important characteristics for a member of a family and for a member of a church and for a member of a community.

But for the POTUS, we are looking for other characteristics

confidence
perseverence
courage
a dynamic charged individual
someone with swagger
someone who owns the room, is charismatic, can make harsh decisions, can make tough decisions, can send troops to die if neccessary, boundless energy, years of brutal training and thousands of reference experiences....

a "superior man".

it is unlikely that this alpha amongst alphas will be thought of as "nice, decent, etc".it unlikely he will be meek, supplicating, apologetic and looking for validation.

Trump has all the right characteristics.
Obama had all the wrong characteristics.

Obama wouldnt be fit to lead an under 16's rugby team....the coach would probably tell him he was too much of a pussy Cheesy

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Re: A little knowledge changes everything
Reply #7 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm:

cods wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 8:09pm:

I don't see Trump as a threat anymore because- fact's. he will be a crappy leader but he is nothing to fear, that is my opinion so far, it will change again I'm sure.

I seem to recall you claiming Obama was the best yet I havent seen the list of his accomplishments..do you have them????

he was there 8 years so I know he did something... Sad

.......well of course he did!

I see the Obama Presidency in terms of he was a very decent human being, that will never change, his wife is prettyl speciatoo. As for what he has done, well I have heard some say he did plenty, but couldn't really tell you what he actually did atm. ( will have a google and get back to you ). He was a great leader and yes he made mistakes..I love Obama because he is a good and decent man and that is no small thing.

we need to discern what "behaviours" and "characteristics" we are looking for in leadership.

being good and decent and nice and "a special snowflake'...these are important characteristics for a member of a family and for a member of a church and for a member of a community.

But for the POTUS, we are looking for other characteristics

confidence
perseverence
courage
a dynamic charged individual
someone with swagger
someone who owns the room, is charismatic, can make harsh decisions, can make tough decisions, can send troops to die if neccessary, boundless energy, years of brutal training and thousands of reference experiences....

a "superior man".

it is unlikely that this alpha amongst alphas will be thought of as "nice, decent, etc".it unlikely he will be meek, supplicating, apologetic and looking for validation.

Trump has all the right characteristics.
Obama had all the wrong characteristics.

Obama wouldnt be fit to lead an under 16's rugby team....the coach would probably tell him he was too much of a pussy Cheesy

Jesus christ stop drivelling poo

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6382 Australia Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #8 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:30pm Agnes wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:31pm: I love Obama because he is a good and decent man and that is no small thing. Yep, he was certainly a 'man' on a mission?
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #9 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:39pm If you say Trump has a mandate to govern when he LOST the popular vote by 1.5 million votes but you didn’t say President Obama had a mandate to govern when he WON the popular vote by almost 10 million votes, you are a hypocrite and you are a racist.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #10 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:39pm bogarde73 wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:18pm: I thought this was about Obama. Maybe you'd like to go back and talk about Hoover. Why don't you add your pathetic voice to the angelic chorus to sanctify Mr Yeswecan. Why was this 'about Obama' necessarily?
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #11 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:39pm If you watched the bare-armed spouse of Trump meeting in The White House with First Lady Michelle Obama and you were not immediately repulsed by her bare white skin but you criticized First Lady Michelle Obama for wearing sleeveless dresses, you are a hypocrite and you are a racist.
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #12 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:40pm If you referred to President Obama’s policy on Muslims entering the country as “inviting terrorists” but you are okay with Trump now adopting President Obama’s same policy, you are a hypocrite and you are a racist.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #13 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 5:02pm The bed wetters will wake up on Jan 20 to find how someone who is not a left wing idealogue actually governs FOR the people and not for a coterie of globalist corporates & bankers & Muslim infiltrators.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77052 Gender:	Re: A little knowledge changes everything Reply #14 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 5:09pm bogarde73 wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 12:01pm: In fact Obama is a total failure. What a load of rubbish. Obama had the result of the GFC to contend with. The USA was one of the hardest hit and still he managed to get the USA through it in pretty good form.
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