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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #75 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

After making your prediction you can no longer question anyone else's intelligence. Remember "Hillary will definitely win". What happened to your promise you would leave if she didn't? Was that just more hot air?

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

"I will leave the forum forever if Trump wins" - Greggy 2016

Yes, and nothing has changed.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

He said being in the continuous tense so the action of the election 'being rigged ' may have just started and stopped.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

Cool. So nothing with past tense?

You want something past tense?

Why didn't you say so?

Trump lost the popular vote.

This is from the past too: Four years ago, Donald Trump declared that the U.S. Electoral College system of picking presidents "is a disaster for a democracy."

Why are you chirping about this now Pecca? In 1998 Pauline Hanson won 936,621 or 8.43% of house of rep votes and didn't get a seat.

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #76 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:01pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

After making your prediction you can no longer question anyone else's intelligence. Remember "Hillary will definitely win". What happened to your promise you would leave if she didn't? Was that just more hot air?

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

"I will leave the forum forever if Trump wins" - Greggy 2016

Yes, and nothing has changed.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

He said being in the continuous tense so the action of the election 'being rigged ' may have just started and stopped.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

Cool. So nothing with past tense?

You want something past tense?

Why didn't you say so?

Trump lost the popular vote.

This is from the past too: Four years ago, Donald Trump declared that the U.S. Electoral College system of picking presidents "is a disaster for a democracy."

Hopefully President Trump can everhaul the system.
Thank orange for Donald.

Haven't had your morning coffee yet, Gordy?

Why would he want to overhaul a system that made him President?

Without that system, he wouldn't be where he is now.

So, what possible reason would he have to change the system that gave him the luckiest break of his life?

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57165 Gender:	Re: Why won't the left respect democracy?? Reply #77 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:03pm In a federal system like the US or Australia the popular vote is only half the story. And the electoral system has been unchanged for a long time so everyone knew how it worked.
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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #78 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

After making your prediction you can no longer question anyone else's intelligence. Remember "Hillary will definitely win". What happened to your promise you would leave if she didn't? Was that just more hot air?

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

"I will leave the forum forever if Trump wins" - Greggy 2016

Yes, and nothing has changed.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

He said being in the continuous tense so the action of the election 'being rigged ' may have just started and stopped.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

Cool. So nothing with past tense?

You want something past tense?

Why didn't you say so?

Trump lost the popular vote.

This is from the past too: Four years ago, Donald Trump declared that the U.S. Electoral College system of picking presidents "is a disaster for a democracy."

Hopefully President Trump can everhaul the system.
Thank orange for Donald.

Haven't had your morning coffee yet, Gordy?

Why would he want to overhaul a system that made him President?

Without that system, he wouldn't be where he is now.

So, what possible reason would he have to change the system that gave him the luckiest break of his life?

Obviously he'll change it on his 2nd term.

Tell you what, if he doesn't change it during his 2nd term I'll leave Ozpolitics 4 eva

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #79 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

He says the election was rigged, and that the Electoral College system is undemocratic, yet he still accepts the position of President-Elect.

America has been cheated by a sly fraudster.

So what happened to your insistence on 'Hillary will win by a landslide", numpty?

Did you miss something??

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #80 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:17pm

Frank wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

He says the election was rigged, and that the Electoral College system is undemocratic, yet he still accepts the position of President-Elect.

America has been cheated by a sly fraudster.

So what happened to your insistence on 'Hillary will win by a landslide", numpty?

Did you miss something??

Would say that was premised on the fact that everything and everyone started and finished on a level playing field Frank.. and yes someone is missing something Frank, can you guess what it is..

I believe this belongs to a chimp, he said you could use it for today... gaawwn Frank. you know you want to?

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Why won't the left respect AMERICAN democracy??
Reply #81 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:21pm

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........Four years ago, Donald Trump declared that the U.S. Electoral College system of picking presidents "is a disaster for a democracy."

Remember, & Trump now knows this full well, the American system is only based on democratic principals, it is not a Democracy, it is a Constitutional Republic.

The American Founding Fathers were insistent that they didn't want America to be a Democracy, where 50% + 1 forms a Majority, & therefore it rules over the remaining minority.

They wanted to protect the Minority, something a Democracy can't & won't do.

America is a Constitutional Republic, & is not ruled by a Majority....50%+1, it's governed by A Constitution......the rule of law, all with the consent of the governed.....the American People

This video explains, in easy to understand terms, what a Democracy is, & what a Republic is.....

What the American Form of Government is

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #82 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 2:13pm

Panther wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:06am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:03am:

Panther wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

The exact opposite is actually true.....I wish you all the world in exercising the freedom of speech you have.....never cower on any mere suggestion that you go softly to your corner & sob rather than discussing it.

Discuss it till you're blue in the face, it's your right, I was just outlining how, IMHO, it will be one step past impossible to change the American System, but hammer on Smitty.....Hammer on! ...

your comment was condescending bullsh1t. No one here is trying to change the American system, we're discussing the American system.

[size=11][font=Georgia][i]Ah, so you agree that the American System should be respected, & should remain the same........you merely want to discuss it then.....fine with me....continue....

don't try to twist what I'm saying. You don't know what you are saying, what hope have you got of working out what I'm saying.
I don't think the American system is very democratic at all and if I were in the USA I'd be pushing for a complete overhaul of the system. Lucky for me I'm not American, so I don't really give a phark.

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #83 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 2:39pm

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

After making your prediction you can no longer question anyone else's intelligence.

Remember "Hillary will definitely win".

What happened to your promise you would leave if she didn't?

Was that just more hot air?

matty,

Everyone on OzPol knows, and have known for a very long time...............

..............that greggery is an unreliable, boastful ["Hillary will definitely win"], BIG FAT LIAR.

When something is white, greggery will say that it is black.

When something is black, greggery will claim that it is white.

Nothing that greggery says has any weight.

Yadda said....
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The two most important characteristics which define the personality of a person [imo];
1/ are we honest ?
2/ are we reliable ? ....[e.g. if we give someone an undertaking to do something, or to behave in a certain way, will we keep to the [verbal] agreement that we have made ?]

More than that, is superfluous, imo.

Pretending to be someone with an anglo background ['greggery'], the guy is clearly a filthy, deceitful, lying moslem.

Quack, quack.

His real name is Abdullah.

What other conclusion, could i come to ?

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #84 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 2:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

Yes.

Right up until election day,

the mainstream media were backing and helping HRC.

Right up until election day itself,

the mainstream media were CONFIDENTLY stating that Clinton was ahead, and predicting that Clinton would win the actual poll.

The Leftists in the USA did try to rig the result.

They failed.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #85 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 3:13pm

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

Even two days after the election those on the left are marching and protesting and whining about the decision. Why not just be good sports, accept the democratic decision and move on? You lost, get over it. The people had enough of the corrupt political establishment. They didn't want to vote for Hillary.

It doesn't matter what political experts like Katy Perry, Lady GaGa, Miley Cyrus, Beyoncé, Jay Z and Robert DeNiro wanted. What makes them think that ordinary Americans would listen to them? What arrogance and contempt.

That said I don't really mind all the whining and bitching keep it coming it's been highly amusing, it's been almost orgasmic watching you moan after having told us for months on end that Trump had no chance of winning.

You've always been pretty simplistic and here is more of the same. This in fact has nothing to do with left or right but rather the election of a grossly unsuitable man as President. A man who is racist, sexist, abusive, incompetent, liar and abuser. And no one really denies it.

It has everything to do with the most powerful nation electing someone who is RESPONSIBLE.

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #87 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 3:47pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

After making your prediction you can no longer question anyone else's intelligence. Remember "Hillary will definitely win". What happened to your promise you would leave if she didn't? Was that just more hot air?

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

"I will leave the forum forever if Trump wins" - Greggy 2016

Yes, and nothing has changed.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

He said being in the continuous tense so the action of the election 'being rigged ' may have just started and stopped.

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

Cool. So nothing with past tense?

You want something past tense?

Why didn't you say so?

Trump lost the popular vote.

This is from the past too: Four years ago, Donald Trump declared that the U.S. Electoral College system of picking presidents "is a disaster for a democracy."

Hopefully President Trump can everhaul the system.
Thank orange for Donald.

Haven't had your morning coffee yet, Gordy?

Why would he want to overhaul a system that made him President?

Without that system, he wouldn't be where he is now.

So, what possible reason would he have to change the system that gave him the luckiest break of his life?

Obviously he'll change it on his 2nd term.

Why would he change it?

Put your little thinking cap on, Gordy.

What possible reason would he have to change it?

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Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #88 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 3:57pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

"The election is absolutely being rigged ..." Donald Trump, 2016

Yes.

Right up until election day,

the mainstream media were backing and helping HRC.

Right up until election day itself,

the mainstream media were CONFIDENTLY stating that Clinton was ahead, and predicting that Clinton would win the actual poll.

The Leftists in the USA did try to rig the result.

They failed.

That's just stupid. The elections wasnt rigged and never has been. The evidence for that is how both parties tend to alternate 8 year terms.

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Re: Why won't the left respect AMERICAN democracy??
Reply #89 - Nov 12^th, 2016 at 3:59pm

Panther wrote on Nov 12^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:

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Quote:

........Four years ago, Donald Trump declared that the U.S. Electoral College system of picking presidents "is a disaster for a democracy."

Remember, & Trump now knows this full well, the American system is only based on democratic principals, it is not a Democracy, it is a Constitutional Republic.

The American Founding Fathers were insistent that they didn't want America to be a Democracy, where 50% + 1 forms a Majority, & therefore it rules over the remaining minority.

They wanted to protect the Minority, something a Democracy can't & won't do.

America is a Constitutional Republic, & is not ruled by a Majority....50%+1, it's governed by A Constitution......the rule of law, all with the consent of the governed.....the American People

This video explains, in easy to understand terms, what a Democracy is, & what a Republic is.....

What the American Form of Government is

what drivel is that? THe majority has always ruled over the minority and always will. But 'ruling' doesnt mean oppressing. But if you want specific policies then you need to become the majority.

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