Australian Politics Forum - Why won't the left respect democracy??

Melanias purse

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 101267

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #165 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 10:21pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

Yet the fact is that it is the right going more and more extreme while the left are solidly to the right of centre in most relevant cases.

Rubbish. The right has largely lost the culture war. Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

Good point, that's true.

And we're about to see many of those aims unraveled. In the US, it's already happening. LBJ's Great Society is no more.

And that's what gets people stirred about about making Amerika great again.

Back to top

IP Logged

Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57153 Gender:	Re: Why won't the left respect democracy?? Reply #166 - Nov 21^st, 2016 at 5:05pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 13^th, 2016 at 11:13am: Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2016 at 11:00am: He said "And when you’re a star, they let you do it." It's not an assault if they let you. No Frank it is still assault but to you guys any convoluted excuse will do. Convoluted?? How is that convoluted?
Back to top	Estragon: I can’t go on like this. Vladimir: That’s what you think. IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 61321
Here
Gender: male

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #167 - Nov 21^st, 2016 at 7:28pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

Yet the fact is that it is the right going more and more extreme while the left are solidly to the right of centre in most relevant cases.

Rubbish. The right has largely lost the culture war. Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

The right tried to compete on anything related to culture ?

No your pulling my leg.

Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

Yes everyone walks around in tie died shirts with flowers in their hair singing about peace.

Fact is that we have never had a more right wing corporate multinational controlled world. Hate and blame is the language that wins elections.

Back to top

IP Logged

Frank

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 57153
Gender: male

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #168 - Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm

Melanias purse wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 10:21pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

Yet the fact is that it is the right going more and more extreme while the left are solidly to the right of centre in most relevant cases.

Rubbish. The right has largely lost the culture war. Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

Good point, that's true.

And we're about to see many of those aims unraveled. In the US, it's already happening. LBJ's Great Society is no more.

O'bama has been president for the last 8 years. Why has he unravelled it? Or did Dubya unravel it? Bill & Hill? Who?

Back to top

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

IP Logged

Postmodern Trendoid III

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 10300
Gender: male

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #169 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 9:31am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

Yet the fact is that it is the right going more and more extreme while the left are solidly to the right of centre in most relevant cases.

Rubbish. The right has largely lost the culture war. Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

The right tried to compete on anything related to culture ?

No your pulling my leg.

Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

Yes everyone walks around in tie died shirts with flowers in their hair singing about peace.

Fact is that we have never had a more right wing corporate multinational controlled world. Hate and blame is the language that wins elections.

You don't know what you're talking about. It's a cultural war more than an economic one.
Tasks of the 1960s radicals:
European civilisation/culture has nothing but a racist, sexist history, therefore offers nothing - completed.
Minority ethnicities/races more important than the host ethnicity - completed.
Destruction of the traditional family - completed.
Destruction of gender roles/norms - completed.
Feeling over reason - completed.
Destruction of Christianity - completed.

You lefties don't see what's going on with the rise of the alternative right. You don't even see what it is they're complaining about. If you'd bother to do some honest investigation, you'd see that the alternative right has some sympathies for the economic models found on the left. But you won't. You lefties are too stubborn, and this is why you're going to lose the culture war over the next few decades. If you don't understand your opponent, how do you expect to beat him?

Back to top

IP Logged

Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Why won't the left respect democracy?? Reply #170 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 9:37am Wait for him to essentially die out.
Back to top	In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act. No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy) IP Logged

NorthOfNorth

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 17258
Gender: male

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #171 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 9:43am

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

O'bama has been president for the last 8 years. Why has he unravelled it? Or did Dubya unravel it? Bill & Hill? Who?

It began with Ronald Reagan...

As Alistair Cooke put it in 1982 (in one of his famous 'Letter from America' broadcasts).. "Mr Reagan has hammered away at the theme that he was going to reverse 50 years of American history. He was going to cancel the Roosevelt revolution, the creation of a strong central government with direct responsibility for the fundamental needs – shelter, food, housing – of all its citizens."

Back to top

Conviction is the art of being certain

IP Logged

Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10300 Gender:	Re: Why won't the left respect democracy?? Reply #172 - Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 9:43am It's not just fogies that are of the alt-right. Younger people are joining up, and more people are 'coming out of the closet' because it's now becoming acceptable to have non-leftist views. Your tactic will not work.
Back to top	IP Logged

Frank

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 57153
Gender: male

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #173 - Nov 24^th, 2016 at 5:50pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 9:31am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 7:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 6:41pm:

Yet the fact is that it is the right going more and more extreme while the left are solidly to the right of centre in most relevant cases.

Rubbish. The right has largely lost the culture war. Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

The right tried to compete on anything related to culture ?

No your pulling my leg.

Nearly every revolutionary aim of the radicals of the 1960s has been implemented.

Yes everyone walks around in tie died shirts with flowers in their hair singing about peace.

Fact is that we have never had a more right wing corporate multinational controlled world. Hate and blame is the language that wins elections.

You don't know what you're talking about. It's a cultural war more than an economic one.
Tasks of the 1960s radicals:
European civilisation/culture has nothing but a racist, sexist history, therefore offers nothing - completed.

Not quite

Minority ethnicities/races more important than the host ethnicity - completed.

Almost but not quite. Turning.

Destruction of the traditional family - completed.
Destruction of gender roles/norms - completed.

No, that's a fantasy.

Feeling over reason - completed.

Yes, but turning

Destruction of Christianity - completed.

Massively diminished but not detroyed.

You lefties don't see what's going on with the rise of the alternative right. You don't even see what it is they're complaining about. If you'd bother to do some honest investigation, you'd see that the alternative right has some sympathies for the economic models found on the left. But you won't. You lefties are too stubborn, and this is why you're going to lose the culture war over the next few decades. If you don't understand your opponent, how do you expect to beat him?

Up to the 1950s - thesis
1960-2000s - antithesis
Now - synthesis.

Trump is the triumph of the dialectic.

Back to top

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

IP Logged

Frank

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 57153
Gender: male

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #174 - Nov 24^th, 2016 at 5:51pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 9:43am:

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

O'bama has been president for the last 8 years. Why has he unravelled it? Or did Dubya unravel it? Bill & Hill? Who?

It began with Ronald Reagan...

As Alistair Cooke put it in 1982 (in one of his famous 'Letter from America' broadcasts).. "Mr Reagan has hammered away at the theme that he was going to reverse 50 years of American history. He was going to cancel the Roosevelt revolution, the creation of a strong central government with direct responsibility for the fundamental needs – shelter, food, housing – of all its citizens."

And what did Bill and Dubya (who voted Hill) and O'Bama do about it??

Back to top

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

IP Logged

Frank

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 57153
Gender: male

Re: Why won't the left respect democracy??
Reply #175 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 8:54pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2016 at 9:43am:

Frank wrote on Nov 21^st, 2016 at 10:42pm:

O'bama has been president for the last 8 years. Why has he unravelled it? Or did Dubya unravel it? Bill & Hill? Who?

It began with Ronald Reagan...

As Alistair Cooke put it in 1982 ...

You are your own parody, pal.

You are presenting a Letter from America in 1982 as a justification and approval of your psychosis over Trump in 2016.

These are the sweetest aspects of the Trump win - seeing you and people like you - always suspect - finally going completely mad.

Priceless.

Back to top

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

IP Logged

Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101267	Re: Why won't the left respect democracy?? Reply #176 - Nov 25^th, 2016 at 10:29pm Guess who's joined the cultural Marxist bandwagon now, Mistie. Yawn.
Back to top	IP Logged