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Trump protests: Calexit now being mooted
Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:10pm

Trump fomented divisiveness which is now acting against him.

http://time.com/4564119/california-calexit-donald-trump-victory/

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Californians Suggest ‘Calexit’ in Wake of Donald Trump Win
Sarah Begley @SCBegley 9:08 AM ET
West Coasters took to social media to call for secession

At the end of a bitter election season that left many Americans devastated by Donald Trump’s win, some citizens of the bluest state on Hillary Clinton’s map took to social media to call for secession from the U.S.

The hashtag #Calexit trended on Twitter, recalling Brexit in its appeal to break off from the union. Another popular moniker: #Caleavefornia. Some took a serious approach, like venture capitalist Shervin Pishevar: “If Trump wins,” he wrote, “I am announcing and funding a legitimate campaign for California to become its own nation.”

He and others called California the sixth largest economy in the world and suggested it could be a serious player on the national stage. Others took a more lighthearted approach, with one Twitter user joking, “We’ll just take our avocados and legal weed and go.”

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Trump protests: Calexit now being mooted Reply #1 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:12pm This is just Mexicans having a sook.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Trump protests: Calexit now being mooted Reply #2 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:22pm Let it happen. The state has no water, nor electricity of its own. They would not last a week.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Trump protests: Calexit now being mooted Reply #3 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:25pm ... wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:22pm: Let it happen. The state has no water, nor electricity of its own. They would not last a week. You evidently do not understand capitalism and profit motive.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump protests: Calexit now being mooted Reply #4 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:58pm People shot near Trump protest: report https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/33167374/people-shot-near-trump-protest-report... not looking good.
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Reply #5 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:12pm

A mend in that divisiveness is imperative (for the people's sake).
Trump did call for people to not be divided and to work together.

What gets me, is to 'make America safe' whereas guns galore seem to rule with zealots that can't handle the outcome of a long hard campaign.

How so can guns make America safe?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Trump protests: Calexit now being mooted Reply #6 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:14pm Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:12pm: Trump did call for people to not be divided and to work together. after 18 months of spreading hatred and fear? I'm sure they'll all listen now.
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Reply #7 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:34pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

Trump did call for people to not be divided and to work together.

after 18 months of spreading hatred and fear? I'm sure they'll all listen now. Cheesy

Yes I know what you mean, it's kind of like trying to shut the gate after the horses have bolted.

So now, the next big move for him, is to call for the "coming together to work together".....there's the next slogan for the peak cap Roll Eyes

It has been a very intense campaign, and his goofy antics seem to have won him some votes (and I bet none more surprised than Donald himself having won).

Remember we had someone like that which had no experience in politics and was a little out there, whom went from Union Leader, to became our Prime Minister, remember Bob Hawke?

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Reply #8 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:43pm

Re: California becoming their own Nation, that they could do, they are big enough, have Los Angeles, Disneyland, Hollywood, beautiful beaches, gosh, so much to see and do there, and they do use an extensive range of solar panels (I took photos of the carpark in Walmart in San Diego, with the overhead cover, all made of solar panels)
But, unfortunately, where does their water come from, as they are having a severe drought (for last 2 years)......how does a state become their own Nation when there is a shortage of water? De-sal? Catchment dams? (for when it does rain). Pipelines from somewhere where there is plenty of water, say, Alaska?
Silly that Alaska is part of USA with Canada in between, whose idea was that Alaska should be American?
Alaska should be its own.
I can't see why it has to be like that, except, for Americans to escape America?
I just hope Alaska isn't spoiled, it's such a beautiful place, "The last frontier" as it is called. Undecided

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Reply #9 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:44pm

Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Remember we had someone like that which had no experience in politics and was a little out there, whom went from Union Leader, to became our Prime Minister, remember Bob Hawke?

He didn't go straight from Union Leader to PM.

He had three years experience in politics before he got the top job.

Trump had no experience in politics.

None whatsoever.

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Reply #10 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:44pm:

Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:34pm:

Remember we had someone like that which had no experience in politics and was a little out there, whom went from Union Leader, to became our Prime Minister, remember Bob Hawke?

He didn't go straight from Union Leader to PM.

He had three years experience in politics before he got the top job.

Trump had no experience in politics.

None whatsoever.

It makes me wonder, why did Trump go for the campaign then?
Okay, here is the convo we have in our home, hubby and I have this discussion/debate (because I was sort of hoping Hilary would win)...
I said, Trump hasn't any experience, and hubby says, well if it was good enough for Ronald Reagan, then why not Donald Trump, and in fact, the thing is, says he, that Trump owes nothing to anyone (so he is virtually like an independent).

That, is what will make things interesting, he is not of the established order within politics, and lets hope, he doesn't get shot or anything.

I hope not. Would like to see some changes made that benefit the little people, which is what Trump want's to put into effect.

We really do have to embrace the new changes into the political arena, and in a way, I wish it would happen here too, which is what One Nation was trying to do in Australia. BTW.....Pauline was ever so happy Trump won.

So if anyone is happy for Trump, then don't knock Pauline.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Trump protests: Calexit now being mooted Reply #11 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:56pm The protests and violence do not surprise me..America is gutted by this, most of my American friends still in shock and heartbroken.
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Reply #12 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 3:00pm

Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

Okay, here is the convo we have in our home, hubby and I have this discussion/debate (because I was sort of hoping Hilary would win)...
I said, Trump hasn't any experience, and hubby says, well if it was good enough for Ronald Reagan, then why not Donald Trump, ...

Reagan had plenty of experience too.

He served two terms as Governor of California before becoming President.

As far as I know, Trump is the only POTUS who has no prior political or military experience.

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Reply #13 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 3:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 3:00pm:

Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

Okay, here is the convo we have in our home, hubby and I have this discussion/debate (because I was sort of hoping Hilary would win)...
I said, Trump hasn't any experience, and hubby says, well if it was good enough for Ronald Reagan, then why not Donald Trump, ...

Reagan had plenty of experience too.

He served two terms as Governor of California before becoming President.

As far as I know, Trump is the only POTUS who has no prior political or military experience.

And one has to ask, why would he want to be in the political arena?
What motivated him to do so?
For the people?

Is it such a bad thing to be an independent, and not be owned by anything of the old order?

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Reply #14 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 3:13pm

Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 3:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 3:00pm:

Sophia wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

Okay, here is the convo we have in our home, hubby and I have this discussion/debate (because I was sort of hoping Hilary would win)...
I said, Trump hasn't any experience, and hubby says, well if it was good enough for Ronald Reagan, then why not Donald Trump, ...

Reagan had plenty of experience too.

He served two terms as Governor of California before becoming President.

As far as I know, Trump is the only POTUS who has no prior political or military experience.

And one has to ask, why would he want to be in the political arena?
What motivated him to do so?
For the people?

For the people? NO.

Trump does things for Trump - no one else.

He did it to feed his ego.

He didn't really expect to win.

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