____ wrote on Nov 9^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

Perhaps, but not necessarily militarily. The Australian economy, already fragile and moribund, could tip over into a technical recession if the rest of the world loses confidence. If there is a recession, the Liberals would have no chances at the next election.

The upside though is that Trump is likely to kill off the TPP. That neo-liberal madness would be facing the stiff headwinds of global protectionism that are building around the world. It's not for no reason that One Nation and NXT both have four MPs in Federal Parliament.

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 9^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:


Just Australia. The ANZUS treaty is more like trade symbolism. The Chinese coming a-knockin' to take over Australia will be a heavy cost to the Chinese. The Chinese coming to make trouble in our region, that would be another thing. But the Chinese are becoming progressively less hostile militarily, as the importance of good trade relations helps their economy. We need not fear the Chinese.

You lot have it all wrong.

What we need is to pull together with our allies, America, UK, etc, white functional countries.

Then we need to dump the multinationals, make industry Australian based, re-introduce tariffs and make China and their like pay their way.

Then we really need to stop giving away money to parasites, Indonesia, Africa etc.
Look after our own, first, second, third and fourth.

Stop immigration from third world countries, only bring in Christians and those who have the same values as us.
Make those who are here behave themselves or send them elsewhere, who cares where.

Bring home all our soldiers, let these useless countries fight their own battles.
But if they DARE to attack us, we will strike with closed fists and with everything we have.
We need nukes.

Make Australia great again.

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:18am:



If we lose the USA nuclear umbrella we
will have to build our own nukes.

So will: Japan, South Korea, Indonesia etc

The world could be a far more dangerous place.

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:18am:



ANZUS has not crumbled, YOU have demanded we flush it down the toilet (check your OP), you need to tell everyone how we should maintain our sovereignty and security with out it.

Also the US will not give up their main communications / spy base in the southern hemisphere, for a petulant 1 term president. They would lose too much of their own security if they did so. Something you have not considered, or I doubt you even knew, did you? 

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:37am:



So in this hypothetical he is giving up Pine Gap the main US spy base in the southern hemisphere and  communications to their nuclear submarines?

Well in this hypothetical I would say we should employ the group hug philosophy and sing kumbaya, as it will never happen.


YOU were the one to demand that we abandon our main security treaty ANZUS not trump and not as a hypothetical but as an actual action. So answer the question posed.

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 7:26am:



Since you have consistently refused to answer my initial question, I don't see why I should indulge your stupid hypothetical/


The USA will NEVER willingly give up Pine Gap. That is the answer to your cretinous hypothetical.