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Reply #75 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:57am

juliar wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:54am:

Gullible Greenies_Lose is still banging away on the shed wall about his Greenie UN One World Govt Propaganda rubbish.

Pres Trump will put the silly Greenie UN One World Govt back at least 100 years.

The UN had to revise Agenda 21 into Agenda 2030 because it was a flop even tho the Greenies loved it as it saved them from having to think.

Now that Trumpy is in power it looks as tho the UN will also have to revise Agenda 2030.

A one world government is closer today than it was two days ago.
A 'war no more' coalition is the fastest way of achieving a one world government.
As this 'war no more' coalition grows stronger, the take up will speed up.

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Re: Today's Our Independence Day
Reply #76 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:58am

juliar wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:54am:

Gullible Greenies_Lose is still banging away on the shed wall about his Greenie UN One World Govt Propaganda rubbish.

Pres Trump will put the silly Greenie UN One World Govt back at least 100 years.

The UN had to revise Agenda 21 into Agenda 2030 because it was a flop even tho the Greenies loved it as it saved them from having to think.

Now that Trumpy is in power it looks as tho the UN will also have to revise Agenda 2030.

See heres the essential problem. If you voted for Trump because you're in Detroit and you're unemployed and you believe he can bring jobs back fine. If you voted for Trump because you're a bit worried about terrorism, a little less fine but still ok. If you voted for Trump because you think this seriously unhinged BS that juliar just posted is true, then you need your smacking head examined.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #77 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 10:01am

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:35am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:14am:

The US are pulling out of NATO

when did that happen? Are you lying again? Me thinks you're lying again Cheesy

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And above all he has said that America's allies in Europe and Asia must do more to pay for and provide for their own defence, even suggesting that the US might not come to the aid of a Nato country if it fails to pay its bills. This will worry the Baltic states no end.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37924137

Not defending Nato = a withdrawal by US, from Nato.

And above all he has said that America's allies in Europe and Asia must do more to pay for and provide for their own defence, even suggesting that the US might not come to the aid of a Nato country if it fails to pay its bills. This will worry the Baltic states no end.

Sh1t that is as rock solid as you can find anywhere. Grin

The new action words

Suggesting

Might not

If

Fkk-sake everyone panic, we're doooooooomed

And in diplomatic speak, Trump is saying drop pants and bend over.

By your denial, I take it you have them around your ankles already?

Now we know you are lying if you're saying trump uses diplomatic language. Grin

Answer the question!

The article is in diplomatic speak.
Trump wants everyone to pay for US defence protection.

Are you willing to pay a US defence tax, so to fund Donald's trade undermining of Australia?

Answer my questions loser, before asking me anymore cretinous questions.

You made a stupid statement now clarify how you would make it happen.

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Re: Today's Our Independence Day
Reply #78 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 10:07am

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 10:01am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:35am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:14am:

The US are pulling out of NATO

when did that happen? Are you lying again? Me thinks you're lying again Cheesy

Quote:

And above all he has said that America's allies in Europe and Asia must do more to pay for and provide for their own defence, even suggesting that the US might not come to the aid of a Nato country if it fails to pay its bills. This will worry the Baltic states no end.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37924137

Not defending Nato = a withdrawal by US, from Nato.

And above all he has said that America's allies in Europe and Asia must do more to pay for and provide for their own defence, even suggesting that the US might not come to the aid of a Nato country if it fails to pay its bills. This will worry the Baltic states no end.

Sh1t that is as rock solid as you can find anywhere. Grin

The new action words

Suggesting

Might not

If

Fkk-sake everyone panic, we're doooooooomed

And in diplomatic speak, Trump is saying drop pants and bend over.

By your denial, I take it you have them around your ankles already?

Now we know you are lying if you're saying trump uses diplomatic language. Grin

Answer the question!

The article is in diplomatic speak.
Trump wants everyone to pay for US defence protection.

Are you willing to pay a US defence tax, so to fund Donald's trade undermining of Australia?

Answer my questions loser, before asking me anymore cretinous questions.

You made a stupid statement now clarify how you would make it happen.

I asked you a question, and without the abuse.
You have chosen to ignore and not answer.

Practice what you preach.

What is your plan B?

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Re: Today's Our Independence Day
Reply #79 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 10:19am

Greenies_Lose, You are wasting you breath.

the cat is out of the bag now about your beloved Greenies hidden agenda to reduce Australia to a 4th world country and then to turn it into a dumping ground for the world's unwanted trash, that is turn Australia into a black, brown, and brindle SLUM!!!!

The signs are there for all to see in Sth Aust.

The Greenies hope that they will become part of the UN One World Govt and be put in charge of Australia. Will Kruddy return to become president of Australia ?

Anyone who can't see this just needs to have a look at the UN Agenda 21 and they will recognize the Greenies "policies" straight away.

Things like no borders, free movement of population just like Europe, set marine parks up to stop fishing, loss of private ownership, etc and so on.

Greenies_Lose is getting frantic now that Trumpy will abandon this UN One World Govt rubbish that Obama and Hillary liked so much.

So expect Greenies_Lose to keep chundering out ruddiculous lying hypocrite Greenie propaganda trash until the cows come come.

Greenies_Lose, you should get that Greenie Train Wreck in to help you.

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Reply #80 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 11:09am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:21am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:18am:

BigOl
Trump is isolationistic, and Aus. may not get a choice of keeping ANZUS. As Australia was caught out yesterday, we must have a plan two, a future without the US babysitting us.

Choices include becoming neutral, picking up the pieces of US retreat and form closer ties with states that also have been left high and dry too, or my personal choice : a war no more coalition. All states around the planet who will pledge a war no more future join together. Any state is challenged and then every other state rises in defence of them.

As far as militarising and the spending, we got to choose a path first, then work out how to achieve that path.

Now, if ANZUS crumbles, what do you think we should do?

If we lose the USA nuclear umbrella we
will have to build our own nukes.

So will: Japan, South Korea, Indonesia etc

The world could be a far more dangerous place.

And? We have had nuclear weapons in our country, and we can do it again. Indonesia won't let 100 million Javanese starve whilst they develop nuclear weapons. They will keep weaving those baskets, and complaining about their lot in life. Indonesia might even stand down a bit with their military.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25166 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Today's Our Independence Day Reply #81 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 11:16am ____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:29am: If Trump demands Australia to pay cash for US defence ... should we become a cash cow for Trump to milk regularly? Is that not like asking for protection money?
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Re: Today's Our Independence Day
Reply #82 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 11:29am

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 10:07am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 10:01am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:35am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 9:28am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:27am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:15am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:14am:

The US are pulling out of NATO

when did that happen? Are you lying again? Me thinks you're lying again Cheesy

Quote:

And above all he has said that America's allies in Europe and Asia must do more to pay for and provide for their own defence, even suggesting that the US might not come to the aid of a Nato country if it fails to pay its bills. This will worry the Baltic states no end.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37924137

Not defending Nato = a withdrawal by US, from Nato.

And above all he has said that America's allies in Europe and Asia must do more to pay for and provide for their own defence, even suggesting that the US might not come to the aid of a Nato country if it fails to pay its bills. This will worry the Baltic states no end.

Sh1t that is as rock solid as you can find anywhere. Grin

The new action words

Suggesting

Might not

If

Fkk-sake everyone panic, we're doooooooomed

And in diplomatic speak, Trump is saying drop pants and bend over.

By your denial, I take it you have them around your ankles already?

Now we know you are lying if you're saying trump uses diplomatic language. Grin

Answer the question!

The article is in diplomatic speak.
Trump wants everyone to pay for US defence protection.

Are you willing to pay a US defence tax, so to fund Donald's trade undermining of Australia?

Answer my questions loser, before asking me anymore cretinous questions.

You made a stupid statement now clarify how you would make it happen.

I asked you a question, and without the abuse.
You have chosen to ignore and not answer.

Practice what you preach.

What is your plan B?

I m not in this, there is NO Big Ol Plan A, I made no statements, you did, So why are you asking for my Plan B; YOU are the one making us tear up ANZUS NO-ONE else. I told you that the US will NOT tear up ANZUS there is no need to look any further, unless YOU tear it up as YOU stated in your OP.

YOU need to explain how our security needs will be met, when YOU tear up ANZUS.

So I have answered you for the umpteenth time, now answer the one question that I have repeated with every post and this time without hurting your sensitivities.

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Re: Today's Our Independence Day
Reply #83 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 11:54am

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:21am:

____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 6:18am:

BigOl
Trump is isolationistic, and Aus. may not get a choice of keeping ANZUS. As Australia was caught out yesterday, we must have a plan two, a future without the US babysitting us.

Choices include becoming neutral, picking up the pieces of US retreat and form closer ties with states that also have been left high and dry too, or my personal choice : a war no more coalition. All states around the planet who will pledge a war no more future join together. Any state is challenged and then every other state rises in defence of them.

As far as militarising and the spending, we got to choose a path first, then work out how to achieve that path.

Now, if ANZUS crumbles, what do you think we should do?

If we lose the USA nuclear umbrella we
will have to build our own nukes.

So will: Japan, South Korea, Indonesia etc

The world could be a far more dangerous place.

With a China US trade war, we should expect our dollar to drop to 50 cents or less against the US.
Also world trade will dry up and so Australia falling into a recession is highly likely considering how pathetic both the coalition and labor are with economics.

A weapons race is extremely expensive.
Are we all willing to pay substantial taxes over a long period so to fund it?

Let's wait & see what Trump really does.

I doubt he will pull out of ANZUS.

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Reply #84 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 12:06pm

The US set up the US base at Darwin because they want a presence in SE Asia to offset China's influence.

Australia has a conflict of interest between USA and China as USA is our defence force but China is our trading partner and is already conducting an economic invasion of Australia.

Hopefully Trumpy will ignore Shorty as just a horse brained twit and the ABC as just a defeatist Socialist Propaganda Station that needs to be pulled into line to adhere to its Public Charter.

Australia needs BOTH the USA AND China.

Malcolm will be very wary of Trump's attitude to the very important trade agreement between USA and Australia.

Wonder how Trump will trash the Greenies' Climate Heating bulldust ? Probably with a 500HP 500 cubic inch V8 powered Camaro!!!!

There should be a big market for tissues to the Lefties and Greenies!!! Sob Sob!!!!

The Aust Share Market likes Trumpy as it rocketed up. Good to see. FOREX is all over the shop like Shorty rummaging around the bottom of the bird cage.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Today's Our Independence Day Reply #85 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:07pm Dishonest Mal, currently rear end licking Donald in parliament, and reinforcing this dissolving US reliance. Dishonest Mal = Disconnected With Reality Mal
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Today's Our Independence Day Reply #86 - Nov 10^th, 2016 at 1:20pm UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 11:16am: ____ wrote on Nov 10^th, 2016 at 8:29am: If Trump demands Australia to pay cash for US defence ... should we become a cash cow for Trump to milk regularly? Is that not like asking for protection money? Correct. Will Australia Pay, and Pay, and Pay ?
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