It's people who see themselves as some sort of victim of Western society who are the ones who leap to the defence of Muslims regardless of guilt or innocence.

I'm wondering in what way John sees himself as a victim.

miketrees wrote on Nov 6^th, 2016 at 10:02am:



what excuse have I made Mike? show me one?

You do realise that there is a difference between making an excuse, and recognising that a protest will amount to nothing? right? I know it's may be a little subtle for you, but it's there if you look hard enough.

freediver wrote on Nov 6^th, 2016 at 10:12am:


hence my comment that it's 'not meaningful'

freediver wrote on Nov 6^th, 2016 at 10:12am:


are you pretending you didn't see what I said? he agreed to change his behaviour BEFORE the protests . Given that, what changes do you think he will make as a direct result of the protests?

freediver wrote on Nov 6^th, 2016 at 10:12am:


no contortions ... I haven't changed anything I've said. My comments have been consistent throughout. Perhaps if you'd stuck with what I said instead of pretending I said something else, you'd notice.

I think even Gandalf would distance himself from John's spineless apologetics.

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That is just stupid weasel words John. He would change his behaviour even more drastically, and your argument is proof of that. Like not venturing outside without a heavy armed escort for example. If he responds so meekly to the criticisms that came before the protest, he would respond more to the message the protest sent.

Tell us John, what do you think about people in a similar position to this man who were considering saying similar things. Do you think that seeing 150000 protestors calling for his head might make them alter their behaviour also?

Are you really to blind to see the obvious implications of this? Why are you so desperate to pass this off as having no effect at all John? Wishful thinking?

John Smith wrote on Nov 6^th, 2016 at 10:38am:


You can't hide, John! Come out from under that pile of spaghetti and answer FD's questions!

You're it now, JS.

You're the new Abu.

freediver wrote on Nov 6^th, 2016 at 9:52am:


Unbelievable. How do people think they can get away with saying this sort of thing?

Herbie and I often wonder why you allow types like this to remain here.

You're too open and accommodating for your own good, FD.  Hopefully you can show them the error of their ways.

I know, Herb. Call me an optimist.

Ban them.

freediver wrote on Nov 6^th, 2016 at 11:16am:



Weasel words?  Fine, then show me how he has changed his behaviour!

And I know it's hard for you but can you try to stick to facts.