freediver wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 2:04pm:



we don't really do protests in Oz  .... sure, we occasionally get a small mob together from one extreme or other, but that's just for show. As far as protests go we're pretty lame. Setting ourselves as the benchmark is setting the bar pretty low.

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:


I know you want in your heart to believe that Indo is a perfect example of Muslim harmony. Now many Indos are cool...I know a bunch of them... even some MooSlimes, but in the background in Indonesia there have always been Islamist rumblings.

I'm not suggesting an Islamic revolution is imminent, but if you ever get the chance to speak to someone who served in the Signals Directorate and was stationed in Indonesia for about 20 years, ask them how much time and effort both the Indo and Australian security forces put into containing the Islamists.

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 2:43pm:


So you think 150k angry muzzies on the street is nothing. I don't think it's the impending apocalypses, but it's something.

Tell you one thing tho, the security forces would mow them down in 5 seconds if they needed to. The money in Indo controls the generals. Thanks Allah for endemic corruption.

Gordon wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 2:47pm:



I didn't say it was nothing. I said it wasn't really meaningful ... Indonesia has always had a small problem with Islamic fundamentalists. Every now and then they raise their heads above the parapet, the Indonesians knock them back down and things go on as normal. It's nothing new and it doesn't really mean anything..

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:


Hey was your stoner mate at the rally? Was he holding he sign saying the governor should be hung?

Also, what's Joko doing next week?

John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:


So what you are saying is that compared to us, their religion makes them highly motivated to destroy basic freedoms. Can you explain why exactly you are so desperate to pass this off as not meaningful?

Feel free to choose any benchmark you want if it helps you look less silly.

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If 1% actually turned up to a protest in Sydney, the superannuation laws would get changed. I doubt anyone would lose sleep, because changing the super laws is not quite as sinister as destroying freedom of speech.

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"Late on Friday, dozens of protesters attacked police near the Presidential Palace as officers shot tear gas and water cannons overhead. The protesters called for Ahok's death, shouting "kill Ahok" and "kill Ahok for insulting Islam." Some also carried placards demanding his execution".

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"They had previously quoted a verse from the Muslim holy book at a rally, which warns against Muslims allying themselves with nonbelievers.

In a campaign speech, Ahok told Indonesians that the religious verse did not prohibit them from voting for a non-Muslim. His interpretation of the text is what elicited protests and charges of blasphemy"

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